Life in jail for Hunanian

[Shahumyan]

The feeling in Armenia is that he had " enkan gerel a" that he couldnt take any more money, so he decided to do something finally, and this was last straw. I think it followed a speech of some sort outlining his ideas

[anileve]

Originally posted by Shahumyan He was a Dashnak tho wasnt he.

Meh, Sarkissian was a nasty corrupt piece of work anyway

Can you explain to me why Dashnaks hold such a negative connotation? They were the aristocrats of the Armenian nation. And God help you if you say that they were responsible for Genocide!

[TJ]

As far as I am concerned a hardline nationalistic government will be the least likely to betray the nation or act against the nations interests. Therefore they are probably the best government.

[Shahumyan]

would someone like to answer me this?

Who signed Kars away when the Russians were 2 days away from coming?


And more importantly, who was fighting for the FAscist Nazis against the red army in WW2???

the answer to both is the Dashnaks

today, who is the party which splits the Armenian diaspora up?
There are so many cases of a armenian community being broken up by Dashnaks so they can command it, and make financial gain.
eg in Britain where they broke from the AGBU in london to start seperate school

Also who is controlling the Cilician church and why is it STILL split? and who gains the financial reaping from the church?

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by Shahumyan would someone like to answer me this?

Who signed Kars away when the Russians were 2 days away from coming?


And more importantly, who was fighting for the FAscist Nazis against the red army in WW2???

the answer to both is the Dashnaks

today, who is the party which splits the Armenian diaspora up?
There are so many cases of a armenian community being broken up by Dashnaks so they can command it, and make financial gain.
eg in Britain where they broke from the AGBU in london to start seperate school

Also who is controlling the Cilician church and why is it STILL split? and who gains the financial reaping from the church?

I will have to agree. The idea of Tashnagtsootyoon was beautiful, but their government (first independance) was HORRIBLE, and they seemed to care more to hold on to power than Armenia's interest. During the cold war era, they worked alongside the CIA AGAINST Soviet Armenia, and I don't see how that is justifiable. The assassination of archbishop Dourian is also an example of how low they actually went.

I'd suggest you read Dzarougian's "Verchin Anmeghe".

Even after independance, the fact that our church is still separated is still unexplainable, but the best reason does seem to be, as Shahumyan said, that the Cilician "tem" is directly connected to the Dashnaks and the party seems to be gaining money from it.

[Shahumyan]

Its ironic that they claim to be most Armenian, protectors of Armenian nation, yet theyve done more to harm it than any other organisation

[TJ]

I dont like US or CCCP but I think they were very right in working with the CIA because they actually wanted Armenian freedom.

Well Shahumyan why dont we let the communists win elections in Armenia and then most surely we will become a province of Russia in less than a couple of months.

People like the communists who place their ideology above their patriotism get no respect from me.

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian I dont like US or CCCP but I think they were very right in working with the CIA because they actually wanted Armenian freedom.

Well Shahumyan why dont we let the communists win elections in Armenia and then most surely we will become a province of Russia in less than a couple of months.

People like the communists who place their ideology above their patriotism get no respect from me.

Eh, to each his own... I will personally never tolerate an armenian getting involved with another country against his own homeland, no matter what his "mission" is. They may have thought they were out there liberating Armenia, but they could've just as much destroyed it.

[Shahumyan]

Tigran,
First off, i am a critique of the Armenian Communist Party

2nd, why would it beocme a province of Russia? Infact why make that statement at all? It makes no sense what so ever. I for one would fight against such a move as we would be a colony of the Russian imperialists

3rdly, "Patriotism" is what bought about the genocide, what good is patriotism for a set of people with a certain type of gene? Its the most illogical idea ive ever heard. Patriotism is a backward notion, most strongly supported in the USA...

[TJ]

ok lets sit on our asses all our lives. Patriotism did not bring about the genocide.

If the Armenians in the ottoman empire had had some pride and had stood up against the constant abuse they recieved at the hands of the turks then they would have been able to get their freedom in the late 1800's. Look at what the balkan nations did. They got fed up and stood up for themselves and with russia backing them up they were able to draw the worlds attention and earn their independance while the Armenians sat on their asses and said "lets not provoke the turk, let us turn the other cheek like good christians and bear all this because one day we will go to heavan and god will reward us for our patience"

The reason that Armenia would end up part of russia is because thats what the communists want. They dont want a seperate Armenian nation. They want to join russia and bring back the "good old days" That is their aim.

I am just curious, do you really expect the world to become communist? are you out of your mind?