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  • Re: News about Artsakh

    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
    Hes not going to give land back. Its his homeland, he fought for it, why would he give it back? He has stated on numerous occasions that a countries self determination comes before territorial integrity which means the people of Artsakh will vote on there future.
    I sure hope so and he sure better not ninetoyadome. If Artsakh goes so will the little Armenia.

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    • Re: News about Artsakh

      Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
      Hes not going to give land back. Its his homeland, he fought for it, why would he give it back? He has stated on numerous occasions that a countries self determination comes before territorial integrity which means the people of Artsakh will vote on there future.
      These mafioso didn't care about their fellow Armenians during the war, why should they be patriots in their hearts now?
      kurtçul kangal

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      • Re: News about Artsakh

        Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
        These mafioso didn't care about their fellow Armenians during the war, why should they be patriots in their hearts now?
        but tell me this why would he give away his homeland? Why would he give away the land he grew up on to people he knows will completely destroy any evidence of Armenian culture from the land?
        you guys talk about the protocols and how Serzh sold Artsakh to azerbaijan but did you guys actually think about why the azeris are so pissed off at turkey for not including Artsakh in the protocols? If he sold Artsakh then why are the azeris pissed off? turkey cant make Armenia give up Artsakh, no one can. Serzh will not sell Artsakh.

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          Who cares about a homeland when you have the wealth to buy houses in every continent?

          The Turks are masters at black hand tactics (mafia/government collaboration). You have to understand that there was a power struggle during the war, drug traffickers and growers versus soldiers. That struggle ended. How? And why are veterans and respectable leaders who REALLY cared about the 'homeland' being assassinated and silenced TO THIS DAY?

          In Armenia, like many other countries Mafia = Government

          To them, it's about money, nothing else.
          kurtçul kangal

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          • Re: News about Artsakh

            Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
            Who cares about a homeland when you have the wealth to buy houses in every continent?

            The Turks are masters at black hand tactics (mafia/government collaboration). You have to understand that there was a power struggle during the war, drug traffickers and growers versus soldiers. That struggle ended. How? And why are veterans and respectable leaders who REALLY cared about the 'homeland' being assassinated and silenced TO THIS DAY?

            In Armenia, like many other countries Mafia = Government

            To them, it's about money, nothing else.
            I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

            Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."

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              Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
              I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

              Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."
              Excellent reply...agree 100%.
              kurtçul kangal

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              • Re: News about Artsakh

                Originally posted by Catharsis View Post
                I have to agree, I know there might be some Armenians with good intentions who will try to sugar coat this, but if you turn a blind eye to this reality, and understand that we desperately need to point out the problems and undertake house cleaning.

                Russia should realize that it only shoots itself in the foot when it keeps Armenia weak. Only a strong and prosperous Armenia can act like a wedge between the Turkic world stretching all the way to China and Siberia. The very nature of the Russian Federation comes into question and Turkic separatism is surely bound to reflect there as well in strongest terms when Turkey and Azerbaijan are "brought together." The situation will get out of hand as Russia thinks it can control and manipulate both Turkey and Azerbaijan along with Armenia. Russia should let Diasporans to get involved into Armenian affairs (which would skyrocket Armenian development by tenfold), instead of these hollow and (on purpose) ineffective showcases like the "Ministry of Diaspora."
                You got it right again Catharsis, I also agree of course, good points.

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                • Re: News about Artsakh

                  PanARMENIAN.Net/ Washington has set Azerbaijan a firm ultimatum: Karabakh independence will be recognized, should Azerbaijan attempt to launch military operations in NKR, Yeni Musavat Oppositional Azeri Party official website reported on Tuesday, followed by other Azeri media representatives.

                  Baku asserts US Deputy Assistant Secretary, Tina S. Kaidanow was the one to express US position on Baku's increased militaristic statements on Karabakh conflict settlement. Moreover, US assert possessing information on Azerbaijan’s secret preparations for a war.

                  In observer's opinion, Baku's military rhetoric is caused by the fact Azerbaijan's territorial integrity is not included in agenda of Armenia-Azerbaijan negotiations on Karabakh status, mediated by Russia, US and France, NEWSru.com reports.
                  kurtçul kangal

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                  • Re: News about Artsakh

                    Originally posted by alphapapa View Post
                    panarmenian.net/ washington has set azerbaijan a firm ultimatum: Karabakh independence will be recognized, should azerbaijan attempt to launch military operations in nkr, yeni musavat oppositional azeri party official website reported on tuesday, followed by other azeri media representatives.

                    Baku asserts us deputy assistant secretary, tina s. Kaidanow was the one to express us position on baku's increased militaristic statements on karabakh conflict settlement. Moreover, us assert possessing information on azerbaijan’s secret preparations for a war.

                    In observer's opinion, baku's military rhetoric is caused by the fact azerbaijan's territorial integrity is not included in agenda of armenia-azerbaijan negotiations on karabakh status, mediated by russia, us and france, newsru.com reports.
                    Թող որ այդ եոթը գլխանի ճիվաղները «թաթարները» յառաչ գան եւ պատեռազմին՝ մենք պատրաստ ենք իրենց խփելու անգամ մը եւս: Եւ կամ ադկէց ալ առաչ Ամերիկան թող ընդունի մեր Արցախը:

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                    • Re: News about Artsakh

                      A NUMBER OF NEW PROJECTS CAME INTO OPERATION IN HADROUT

                      NKR Government Information and
                      Public Relations Department
                      November 09, 2009

                      On November 8, the solemn ceremony of opening of the secondary school
                      of Hakaku village, Hadrout region, which was reconstructed on public
                      funds, took place. More than AMD 110 mln were allotted to the modern
                      overhaul repair of this educational institution.

                      NKR Prime Minister Ara Haroutyunyan, NKR Minister of Education and
                      Science V. Khachatryan, other public officials partook in the ceremony.

                      The Head of the Government got familiarized with school conditions
                      and had a talk with the teachers.

                      The same day A.Haroutyunyan participated in the opening ceremonies of
                      water pipes of Mets Tagher and Azokh villages, Hadrout region. They
                      were restored by the financial support of the NKR Government and
                      "Hayastan" All-Armenian Fund.

                      A.Vardanyan, Executive Director of "Hayastan" All-Armenian Fund,
                      participated in the ceremony as well.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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