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  • #21
    Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

    Originally posted by Saco View Post
    Look at this nationalist clown. In the other thread you were completely dissing the Armenian people and now your suddenly Mahatma Ghandi? LAVEM arel vor aselem et ameninchu konumanin U AVELIN kasem. Ko dod glukhov shat chapu antsar. Im mardkants hulu vochmeku tents ban cher asel, lakot! Dura masin mutatsi.



    What WAS I doing? I was doing the same thing I'm doing now. It's just a xxxxx like you that can't see that. What have YOU done, K? Besides dissing the Armenian people and supporting a gov. that treats them like xxxx, of course. Who am I you ask? Well who the xxxx are YOU?



    And since when did you have brains to understand that? Yes vor im joghovurti masin mutatsum ei gisher u tserek, du soskayeir hulu tstsum, yet voch urish ban, lakot. Du kez um teghnes durel? Im khoskeru vapshe ches haskanum u kantse chushtes te inchem asum galises im yeresin u asum vor yes im joghovurti masin chem mutatsum, gyoti glukh? Yes STEGH em aprum, itarberutsyun KEZ, chem MEGHADRUM IM JOGHOVURDIN ameninchi mech, ITARBERUTSYUN KEZ, yev irants hamar avelinem arel kan du ko amboghch kyankum yev sharunakumem yev MISHT KUSHARUNAKEM, kaklan!



    Your a xxxxx! You didn't understand a THING I said. Go kiss more gov. ass, kid ... as if I need to remind you!



    You don't know xxxx and the rule of thumb is ... shut your xxxxing mouth when you don't know xxxx! You just read a few articles and think you know what's going down? Think again and next time you diss my people, may God have mercy on your soul because I won't!
    Vay ara naye inchx hapergel e es erevnci lagod@

    Maybe you should follow your own rules and stop talking when you know xxxx about politics, because you are just showing how much of a fool you are. If you can't attack my points don't bother posting, personal attacks on the internet mean nothing.

    And you talk abut the Armenian people are your people weren't you the guy that was all about friendship with the turks and they aren't bad and now you come crying.

    I still stand by the point that Armenians only can complain against the government, they have lived too long under a communistic system and the people need to realize it's not the governments job to take care for every little problem they have.

    And what has the government done that's so wrong, you keep telling how bad they are but you have ever giving any examples or anything only telling how bad they are.

    I was one of the first to complain about the road map, but now it's clear there are no preconditions what is there to complain about it's now complaining just to complain and make the government look bad.

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    • #22
      Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
      Vay ara naye inchx hapergel e es erevnci lagod@

      .........., but now it's clear there are no preconditions what is there to complain about it's now complaining just to complain and make the government look bad.

      If there are no prconditions why is it taking so long,
      and during all those months what are the two sides talking about, surely it cannot be idle chat !!
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #23
        Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

        Karoth and Saco please verch devek ays gerivneroun tser mech.

        Garavaroutyune nax footballi paregamoutyan mech tejpaxdapar Araradyan embleme hanel devin mer football xaghatsoghneroun verayen yerp turkyo naxakahe Gule Hayasdan kenats, yev bedk che mer garavaroutyune ayt emblemnere hanel dayin mer football xaghatsorghneroun shabigneren.

        Hedo Serge yev Edwarde kaghdni bahetsin "road map"i hamakordsoutyounnerou masin te inch inch baymannere ge paghganan anonk, aynkan vor Hay Heghapoxagan Tashnagtsoutyune "Coolition"en yelav vorovhedev kaghdni bahel ouzetsin yev Tashnagtsoutyune yev Gakigi party-n nayev havadknin gorsentsoutsin
        Sergein ou Edwardin vera te serank turkyo garavouratyan hed kaghdni yev Hayoun hagarag kordser ge desnen.

        Hedo April 23-in djishd April 24-i naxoryagin Edward Nalbandyane turkin hed esdorakrer e vorosh kaghdnioren ayt orenknere "road map"i arenchoutyamp. Asiga aveli mezi hamar - Hay joghovourtin hamar abdag men er vor April amsoun 24-in ayt hamatsaynoutyunnere esdorakretsin anonk mer ardakin kordsots naxarare-Edwarde yev mer tiv meg teshnami turki Gulin hed. Vorovhedev turke chouzer vor April 24-e neshanagvi yev iprev Genocide djanchtsevi - turke ayt tsevov dagavin ge sharounage Genocide e ouranalov zaniga yev chi tsekelov vor djantsevi mer andaneli Hayots charte iprev Genocide.

        Hedo mer garavaroutyune ge heravire mer tiv meg teshnamoun turkin vor mer Medzamort Huleyagan Atomi hed hamakordsagtsi. Ays polore Karothe, lav neshanner chen yev lav houyser chen tener mer mech tebi Hayasdani garavoutyoune yev tebi Hay joghovourte (i hijouges Serge-i yev Edward-i). Voch te miyayn menk ayl yev Hayots ashxarhe yev spurki polor Hayere kerete esgesads en shad medahokvil te Serge yev Edwarde teshnamoutyun genen Hayasdani yev Hay joghovourtin hanteb.

        Hay joghovourtin tsevov me garavaroutyune chi esdeghdser aritner vor anonk aveli parelav vidjagi mech abrin. Ayt er vor Sacon ge kankader. Te garavaroutyune kerete anoti ge bahe joghovourtin, vorovhedev joghovourte enthanrabes lav kords chi gernar kednel yergerin mech. Ou nayev shad xelatsi hamalsaranavard tebrotsaganner poxanag lav kordserou mech garenal tsernargelou; anonk ge peddin ousoutschagan kordserou mech mednelov miyayn yev vasdagnin shad kich e. Sagayn anonk lavakouyn yev chapazants xelatsi mer yeridasart serountn en ou bedk e vartsadrevin ou shad lavoren vartsadrevin vor paylin yev houys ounenan yergerin mech menalou. Asor neman kankadner gounenar gor Sacon.

        Djisht e te menk spurkoum vorosh chapov kidenk inch gantsni ge tarna, sagayn oughaggi hon chenk abrir yev hon menk teram chenk vasdegir vor kidnank polor antsads chetartsadnere yergerin mech.

        Chi mornam nayev eselou te dagavin shad tejpaxdapar Hayasdani mech ge sharounage "corruption"e. Gan shad harousd Hayer zororinag Yerevani getrone vorosh "radius" sherchan me, hedo menatsads kaghaki joghovourte yev yergire shad aghkad vijagi mech gabrin. Aysinken ga chapazants harousdneree yev menatsads joghovourte chapazants aghkad en. Yete garavaroutyune lav me garena yev ouze verch tenel "corruption"in ays mer poker yev 18 darvan miyayn angaxoutyun esdatsads yergire gerna shad aveli shoud yev aveli arak arach entanal vor shad me erigmartots bedk chella yergire tsekelou vor anonk yertan heravor Russia gam aylour vor garenan irents endanikin seghanin vera hats tenel ou geragour abahovel.

        Nayev Ays verevi videoin mechi petition havakogh Araradyan Razmavaroutyuan Hayasdani mech yeghogh gazmagerboutyune nayev shad gaybane gor Sergein yev Edward Nalbandyanin vor Hayasdani tem ge kordsen yev nayev gouzen gor vor Edward-e atoragal enen. Ays polor esvadsnere yev gartatsadsnis mez housaleketsin ou medahokel devin tebi nergayis Hayasdani garavaroutyoune yev anonts kaghdni kordsads kaylere mer tiv meg teshnami turkin hed.
        Last edited by Anoush; 05-14-2009, 01:46 PM.

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        • #24
          Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

          Originally posted by Saco View Post
          You don't know xxxx and the rule of thumb is ... shut your xxxxing mouth when you don't know xxxx! You just read a few articles and think you know what's going down? Think again and next time you diss my people, may God have mercy on your soul because I won't!

          You weren't there.

          EVENING OF LOVE ORGANIZED IN YEREVAN

          PanARMENIAN.Net
          06.05.2009 22:11 GMT+04:00

          /PanARMENIAN.Net/ European Regional Academy (ERIICTA) and Waldorf
          school invite to Evening of Love on May 7 organized under the auspices
          of Weeks of German Culture in Armenia.

          Pupils of Waldorf school will perfom an own play One soul in two
          bodies. After perfomance the discussion will take place.

          A concert From Raign to Dunay conducted by Zaven Vardanyan will
          be organized at the Chamber Music Hall after Komitas the same
          evening. Anush Hovhannisyan and Anna Mailyan will be soloists.

          Armenia's chamber orchestra and chamber chorus conducted by Robert
          Mlkeyan will present works of Mozart, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Shtraus
          and Brams.

          The first concert of the cycle From Raign to Dunay with Bach's Easter
          Oratorio took place in April and was a great success.
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #25
            Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

            To Saco and Karo:

            Yan tvek

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            • #26
              Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

              Vay ara naye inchx hapergel e es erevnci lagod@
              et DU YES haburgel, vochnchutsyun. Ko numaneru im votneri takits durs chen gali. Yerevantsi lakod? Yes voch yerevantsiem vochel ko numan yev Itarberutsyun kez, gitem inchem asum u UM em asum. You hit the wrong cord, KarotheLoser! You have something against Armenians here in Armenia and I'm gonna pull your tongue out for what came out of your mouth.

              Maybe you should follow your own rules and stop talking when you know xxxx about politics, because you are just showing how much of a fool you are. If you can't attack my points don't bother posting, personal attacks on the internet mean nothing.
              xxxxx, I responded to ALL your points in my other posts in other threads and you just squirmed away like a piece of xxxx. Look who's talking about politics. Even a sick punk wouldn't support Levon and Kocharyan the way you did. Who doesn't know xxxx about politics now, loser? I could tell you things that would make your hair stand on end and I plan to. Stop acting like you care about our people because you just showed how much you don't. NO ONE in their right minds would say something like that.

              And you talk abut the Armenian people are your people weren't you the guy that was all about friendship with the turks and they aren't bad and now you come crying.
              You piece of xxxx. You didn't understand a word I said in THOSE threads OR THIS ONE. Your all talk, nationalist. Did I say let us become friends with ALL Turks? Did I say, let's open borders? Did I say let's start singing camp songs with our Turkish buddies around a fire? What the xxxx is wrong with you? Not only don't you know xxxx about poilitcs. You apparently don't know how to READ, either just like some of your other friends.

              I still stand by the point that Armenians only can complain against the government, they have lived too long under a communistic system and the people need to realize it's not the governments job to take care for every little problem they have.
              Thanks for the advice, Gandhi, we'll remember that! Enlighten me though, won't you? Does your sweet ass government ALLOW US to do anything besides hunt around for some food to survive?

              And what has the government done that's so wrong, you keep telling how bad they are but you have ever giving any examples or anything only telling how bad they are.
              The seminars are on Saturdays and Sundays at 9 pm and we give special courses to ass kissers! If you don't know, HOW THE HELL are you still talking? I don't blame you for not knowing, I'm blaming you for talking crap. I'm not gonna repeat myself. I've talked about almost EVERYTHING in Anoush's threads. We talked and understood each other perfectly. If you don't have the damn decency to check em' out then move along, Bessy. I have more important things to do ... like finding ways to HELP instead of blaming the people so much! If you knew something ... anything ... I'd try to listen but you don't and still chupchupapalov talk. Give me one reason to listen and I will!

              I was one of the first to complain about the road map, but now it's clear there are no preconditions what is there to complain about it's now complaining just to complain and make the government look bad.
              Are we only talking about THIS? And even if we are, Einstein, the gov. is still going to be blamed. They shouldn't open these borders. We aren't ready for this yet. If you weren't so busy kissing Serj's sweet ass, you'd understand why! So far, I think Serj is doing a better job then the other chums, no doubts there. But you have to remember that he is simply a smaller version of them! What makes you think he's doing everything right? Ask yourself that. I have nothing against you but no one disses my people like you did. If you were living here you'd understand why I was so offended by your pathetic complaints!
              Last edited by Sako; 05-15-2009, 04:56 AM.
              THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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              • #27
                Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

                Karoth and Saco please verch devek ays gerivneroun tser mech.
                Sorry kuyr, but this nationalist is going to apologize for every xxxxing word that came out of his mouth ... just like all the others that have gone through my hands! NO ONE can talk the way he did. He didn't present views, he made a judgement call. And then he says he cares about our people! We don't need that kind of sympathy, Karo. Keep it to your little self.

                Garavaroutyune nax footballi paregamoutyan mech tejpaxdapar Araradyan embleme hanel devin mer football xaghatsoghneroun verayen yerp turkyo naxakahe Gule Hayasdan kenats, yev bedk che mer garavaroutyune ayt emblemnere hanel dayin mer football xaghatsorghneroun shabigneren.

                Hedo Serge yev Edwarde kaghdni bahetsin "road map"i hamakordsoutyounnerou masin te inch inch baymannere ge paghganan anonk, aynkan vor Hay Heghapoxagan Tashnagtsoutyune "Coolition"en yelav vorovhedev kaghdni bahel ouzetsin yev Tashnagtsoutyune yev Gakigi party-n nayev havadknin gorsentsoutsin
                Sergein ou Edwardin vera te serank turkyo garavouratyan hed kaghdni yev Hayoun hagarag kordser ge desnen.

                Hedo April 23-in djishd April 24-i naxoryagin Edward Nalbandyane turkin hed esdorakrer e vorosh kaghdnioren ayt orenknere "road map"i arenchoutyamp. Asiga aveli mezi hamar - Hay joghovourtin hamar abdag men er vor April amsoun 24-in ayt hamatsaynoutyunnere esdorakretsin anonk mer ardakin kordsots naxarare-Edwarde yev mer tiv meg teshnami turki Gulin hed. Vorovhedev turke chouzer vor April 24-e neshanagvi yev iprev Genocide djanchtsevi - turke ayt tsevov dagavin ge sharounage Genocide e ouranalov zaniga yev chi tsekelov vor djantsevi mer andaneli Hayots charte iprev Genocide.

                Hedo mer garavaroutyune ge heravire mer tiv meg teshnamoun turkin vor mer Medzamort Huleyagan Atomi hed hamakordsagtsi. Ays polore Karothe, lav neshanner chen yev lav houyser chen tener mer mech tebi Hayasdani garavoutyoune yev tebi Hay joghovourte (i hijouges Serge-i yev Edward-i). Voch te miyayn menk ayl yev Hayots ashxarhe yev spurki polor Hayere kerete esgesads en shad medahokvil te Serge yev Edwarde teshnamoutyun genen Hayasdani yev Hay joghovourtin hanteb.

                Hay joghovourtin tsevov me garavaroutyune chi esdeghdser aritner vor anonk aveli parelav vidjagi mech abrin. Ayt er vor Sacon ge kankader. Te garavaroutyune kerete anoti ge bahe joghovourtin, vorovhedev joghovourte enthanrabes lav kords chi gernar kednel yergerin mech. Ou nayev shad xelatsi hamalsaranavard tebrotsaganner poxanag lav kordserou mech garenal tsernargelou; anonk ge peddin ousoutschagan kordserou mech mednelov miyayn yev vasdagnin shad kich e. Sagayn anonk lavakouyn yev chapazants xelatsi mer yeridasart serountn en ou bedk e vartsadrevin ou shad lavoren vartsadrevin vor paylin yev houys ounenan yergerin mech menalou. Asor neman kankadner gounenar gor Sacon.

                Djisht e te menk spurkoum vorosh chapov kidenk inch gantsni ge tarna, sagayn oughaggi hon chenk abrir yev hon menk teram chenk vasdegir vor kidnank polor antsads chetartsadnere yergerin mech.

                Chi mornam nayev eselou te dagavin shad tejpaxdapar Hayasdani mech ge sharounage "corruption"e. Gan shad harousd Hayer zororinag Yerevani getrone vorosh "radius" sherchan me, hedo menatsads kaghaki joghovourte yev yergire shad aghkad vijagi mech gabrin. Aysinken ga chapazants harousdneree yev menatsads joghovourte chapazants aghkad en. Yete garavaroutyune lav me garena yev ouze verch tenel "corruption"in ays mer poker yev 18 darvan miyayn angaxoutyun esdatsads yergire gerna shad aveli shoud yev aveli arak arach entanal vor shad me erigmartots bedk chella yergire tsekelou vor anonk yertan heravor Russia gam aylour vor garenan irents endanikin seghanin vera hats tenel ou geragour abahovel.

                Nayev Ays verevi videoin mechi petition havakogh Araradyan Razmavaroutyuan Hayasdani mech yeghogh gazmagerboutyune nayev shad gaybane gor Sergein yev Edward Nalbandyanin vor Hayasdani tem ge kordsen yev nayev gouzen gor vor Edward-e atoragal enen. Ays polor esvadsnere yev gartatsadsnis mez housaleketsin ou medahokel devin tebi nergayis Hayasdani garavaroutyoune yev anonts kaghdni kordsads kaylere mer tiv meg teshnami turkin hed.
                He'll just say this is because of the people, lol!

                Don't make ME start, Karo. I live here and I know what's going on very well. It's not as pretty as you think, yekhpayr. Open your eyes and start to see how deep and dirty these politics REALLY are. Instead of working with me to help our nation and people somehow like so many others on this site and around the world (right now as we speak), you stand in my face and tell me that the people should be more obediant? That they should stop blaming the gov.? YERP EN MEZ ET KAGHTSUR ARITU TUVEL? HUH? I could write you books, not posts, describing all the problems here so stop acting like you know what's going on because you don't know xxxx! YOUR WORDS prove that, I don't need to prove anything.
                THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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                • #28
                  Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

                  Anon I know I said to you I wouldn't insult no members any more but I got to do this, because this guy has crossed the line.

                  et DU YES haburgel, vochnchutsyun. Ko numaneru im votneri takits durs chen gali. Yerevantsi lakod? Yes voch yerevantsiem vochel ko numan yev Itarberutsyun kez, gitem inchem asum u UM em asum. You hit the wrong cord, KarotheLoser! You have something against Armenians here in Armenia and I'm gonna pull your tongue out for what came out of your mouth.
                  xxxi lagod @ndzi hmi lse, I have let you insult me for how long now? I would say for too long and it has been too long. You little piece of xxxx you don't know xxxx about me. So stop making retarded comments about me because if you can't attack the points I make you are just showing that you can't come with a response and the only thing you can do is attack me personally.

                  xxxxx, I responded to ALL your points in my other posts in other threads and you just squirmed away like a piece of xxxx. Look who's talking about politics. Even a sick punk wouldn't support Levon and Kocharyan the way you did. Who doesn't know xxxx about politics now, loser? I could tell you things that would make your hair stand on end and I plan to. Stop acting like you care about our people because you just showed how much you don't. NO ONE in their right minds would say something like that.
                  You never responded to any of points the only thing you did was attack me personally like you did in this thread. And I would never in my life support Levon that piece of xxxx and traitor of our country. But what is wrong with Robert(you seem to hate every president we have) he got an country that was a third world country because that was what we were after Levon and turned in what you see today and give them time and they'll rebuild our ancient wealth.

                  You piece of xxxx. You didn't understand a word I said in THOSE threads OR THIS ONE. Your all talk, nationalist. Did I say let us become friends with ALL Turks? Did I say, let's open borders? Did I say let's start singing camp songs with our Turkish buddies around a fire? What the xxxx is wrong with you? Not only don't you know xxxx about poilitcs. You apparently don't know how to READ, either just like some of your other friends.
                  Now your are saying those things but you were screaming other things while I was against the Turks and you were the one who was defending our enemies have you forgotten that?

                  Thanks for the advice, Gandhi, we'll remember that! Enlighten me though, won't you? Does your sweet ass government ALLOW US to do anything besides hunt around for some food to survive?
                  How are they stopping you from doing something else than hunt around for food? Please tell me do they put guns on your head and force you to go and only hunt for food
                  You have repeated the same sentence in 3 threads I believe. And you still haven't told what you mean by that. I know the situations are bad but things are getting better, look how things were in the 90s and how they are now. And maybe think how things will be over 10 years.

                  The seminars are on Saturdays and Sundays at 9 pm and we give special courses to ass kissers! If you don't know, HOW THE HELL are you still talking? I don't blame you for not knowing, I'm blaming you for talking crap. I'm not gonna repeat myself. I've talked about almost EVERYTHING in Anoush's threads. We talked and understood each other perfectly. If you don't have the damn decency to check em' out then move along, Bessy. I have more important things to do ... like finding ways to HELP instead of blaming the people so much! If you knew something ... anything ... I'd try to listen but you don't and still chupchupapalov talk. Give me one reason to listen and I will!
                  You make clames and you need to proof them, it's not up to me to go and find the points you made. Those are rules when people are discussing. And when will you attack the points and not the person who is making them if you were mature enough you would have done. You have just shown that you are nothing more than an immature prick.

                  Are we only talking about THIS? And even if we are, Einstein, the gov. is still going to be blamed. They shouldn't open these borders. We aren't ready for this yet. If you weren't so busy kissing Serj's sweet ass, you'd understand why! So far, I think Serj is doing a better job then the other chums, no doubts there. But you have to remember that he is simply a smaller version of them! What makes you think he's doing everything right? Ask yourself that. I have nothing against you but no one disses my people like you did. If you were living here you'd understand why I was so offended by your pathetic complaints!
                  Get it in your thick skull it's not up too Serj to decide what's going to happen or to Turkey things are being decided why above their heads. They are nothing more chess pieces in a big game of chess. How faster you realize this how better it is. Are you so pathetic that you think Serj wants to open the borders or I do? xxxx no, I was against it last year I'm still against it. But the government can't do nothing about it so stop blaming them.

                  He'll just say this is because of the people, lol!

                  Don't make ME start, Karo. I live here and I know what's going on very well. It's not as pretty as you think, yekhpayr. Open your eyes and start to see how deep and dirty these politics REALLY are. Instead of working with me to help our nation and people somehow like so many others on this site and around the world (right now as we speak), you stand in my face and tell me that the people should be more obediant? That they should stop blaming the gov.? YERP EN MEZ ET KAGHTSUR ARITU TUVEL? HUH? I could write you books, not posts, describing all the problems here so stop acting like you know what's going on because you don't know xxxx! YOUR WORDS prove that, I don't need to prove anything.
                  Stop threating through the internet it just shows what kind of a loser you really are. You are the type of Armenian that Armenian was talking about many times.
                  @moderators: why is this guy allowed to allowed to threaten and insult members of this forum without him getting his ass banned???

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                  • #29
                    Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

                    Armenia Slams Turkey’s Erdogan Over Karabakh Linkage
                    YEREVAN (RFE/RL)–Armenia on Thursday criticized Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for again making the normalization of Turkish-Armenian relations conditional on a Nagorno-Karabakh settlement, saying that such statements could hamper Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations.

                    Armenian leaders at the same time declined to comment on their implications for the success of the year-long Turkish-Armenian rapprochement.

                    Visiting Baku on Wednesday, Erdogan again publicly made clear that Turkey will not establish diplomatic relations and reopen its border with Armenia until the Karabakh conflict is resolved in a way that would satisfy Azerbaijan. “Occupation of Karabakh is the cause here and closing of the border is the effect. It is impossible for us to open the border unless that occupation ends,” he told a joint news conference with Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev.

                    President Serzh Sarkisian and Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandian reacted to that as they separately met in Yerevan with Brian Fall, Britain’s special representative for the South Caucasus.

                    “The president said that, as he repeatedly pointed out during Armenian-Turkish contacts, any Turkish attempt to interfere in the settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem can only harm that process,” Sarkisian’s office said in a statement. “

                    According to the head of state, if Turkey wants to assist in a peaceful settlement of the conflict, then it had better not meddle in the process of conflict resolution at all.”

                    In a separate statement, the Armenian Foreign Ministry cited Nalbandian as making virtually identical comments. Neither statement specified whether Yerevan thinks Erdogan’s stance precludes further progress in the ongoing Turkish-Armenian fence-mending negotiations. The presidential and ministry press services declined to make further comments.

                    Sarkisian said after his May 8 talks in Prague with Turkey’s President Abdullah Gul that Ankara had agreed to honor a still unpublicized “roadmap” to normalizing bilateral ties that was announced by Ankara and Yerevan on April 22. He said the two states are continuing their dialogue “without preconditions.”

                    However, Erdogan on Wednesday dismissed as “slander” and “disinformation” earlier reports saying that Ankara is ready to stop linking border opening with Karabakh peace.

                    His remarks come as criticism mounts over Sarkisian’s conciliatory policy toward Turkey and its gross failure to secure an end to the Turkish blockade with no preconditions.

                    The Armenian Revolutionary Federation strongly condemned the April 22 roadmap agreement released on the eve of the 94th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide and left the governing coalition, citing “insurmountable, fundamental disagreements” over the government’s approach toward normalizing relations with Turkey.

                    The negotiations process has seen Yerevan make major concessions to Ankara, according to the ARF, which has repeatedly warned Sarkisian that Turkey is exploiting the process to become an actor in the Nagorno-Karabakh peace talks and to deter the United States from officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

                    Sarkisian is seen as largely responsible for U.S. President Barack Obama failure to recognize the Armenian Genocide in a recent statement.
                    Look at how stupid the governments is acting /end sarcasm

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                    • #30
                      Re: Say NO to Capitulation - Surrendering to the Turks

                      Anon I know I said to you I wouldn't insult no members any more but I got to do this, because this guy has crossed the line.
                      Lol, let's see what you've got kid...

                      I have let you insult me for how long now? I would say for too long and it has been too long.
                      And it's about time you got your worthless balls together...

                      You little piece of xxxx you don't know xxxx about me. So stop making retarded comments about me because if you can't attack the points I make you are just showing that you can't come with a response and the only thing you can do is attack me personally.
                      I've come with a reponse to every pathetic word that's come out of your pathetic little mouth. It's YOU that has always run away...just like in the other threads!

                      You never responded to any of points
                      You lying piece of xxxx. I answered your views in so many ways ... I can't even remember how many. Et um es khapum, lakot. Kgnas nationalist ungernerid kkhapes. I answered your views and you didn't know how to respond to them. Not knowing something is ok but you seem to act like you know everything! That's why I'm verbally crushing you here, lakot. Why do you think I'm mad at you? For not knowing?

                      the only thing you did was attack me personally like you did in this thread.
                      And I will AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN until you apologize for what you said. Not to me. To my people.

                      And I would never in my life support Levon that piece of xxxx and traitor of our country.
                      Well I'm glad, otherwise your lame ass legacy filled with foolishness would be just about complete. I'm proud of you, son.

                      But what is wrong with Robert(you seem to hate every president we have) he got an country that was a third world country because that was what we were after Levon and turned in what you see today and give them time and they'll rebuild our ancient wealth.
                      Wasn't I the one that supported Serj in many of my posts stating that he's better then the past presidents in many respects? He's all we've got. Regarding Kocho though ... if you don't know khochkor ... stop talking so arrogantly cause you don't know xxxx. He's eaten our nation. Ask anyone here. Ask anyone in Armenia or even abroad. It's hilarious how you support him so gloriously. That's how I know EXACTLY who you are. One conversation is enough for me to know who people are and I've had MANY with you!

                      Now your are saying those things but you were screaming other things while I was against the Turks and you were the one who was defending our enemies have you forgotten that?
                      Your STILL the same piece of xxxx who didn't understand what I said ... keep trying. I wasn't screaming anything wrong and I've NEVER defended our enemies kaklan. Et ko sarkats kaku ko chagh dzernerov kutes. If you didn't understand something, you should've asked me like a normal human being ... not a xxxx without a life.

                      How are they stopping you from doing something else than hunt around for food? Please tell me do they put guns on your head and force you to go and only hunt for food
                      Laughing at my people yet again...who the xxxx is this guy? I know your brain doesn't allow you to believe or understand me or conceive useful information but what if I was right? What if this is really happening? How do you think people reading what you said would feel? How do you think my people would feel? What a brainless guy you are man. All I'm asking you to do is not talk so confidently because you don't know what's going here. Instead, you come in my face with a sarcastic post. So you can take your sarcasm and stick it up your sarcastic ass! I'm not going to explain xxxx to someone who doesn't have the decency to shut his trap when he doesn't know something.

                      You have repeated the same sentence in 3 threads I believe. And you still haven't told what you mean by that. I know the situations are bad but things are getting better, look how things were in the 90s and how they are now. And maybe think how things will be over 10 years.
                      We can all clearly see how great everything is, Gandhi, I mean we're just jumping with joy. I ask you to look beyond your pathetic views. Then you'll see how "great" everything really is! I just can't cease to question where your ideas come from or where you get the idea that Kocho was a great president () !

                      You make clames and you need to proof them, it's not up to me to go and find the points you made. Those are rules when people are discussing. And when will you attack the points and not the person who is making them if you were mature enough you would have done. You have just shown that you are nothing more than an immature prick.
                      I'm the imature one? I can prove every single word I say unlike xxxxxes like you, running away when they don't know what to say. You're here spilling crap and supporting retards and I'm suddenly the one who's imature? The word itself was created with you in mind, loser.

                      Get it in your thick skull it's not up too Serj to decide what's going to happen or to Turkey things are being decided why above their heads. They are nothing more chess pieces in a big game of chess. How faster you realize this how better it is. Are you so pathetic that you think Serj wants to open the borders or I do? xxxx no, I was against it last year I'm still against it. But the government can't do nothing about it so stop blaming them.
                      ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONLY THE BORDERS??? What an ass. He's still at level 1! We're here talking about everything else that's going on and he's still here proving that Serj has to open the borders like he was a year back. Move your ass along, punk. We all know these politics better then you ever could. If you understood anything you wouldn't be here supporting a khochkor like Kocharyan.

                      Stop threating through the internet it just shows what kind of a loser you really are.
                      I'm not "threating" you, I'm warning you ... You'd be under my experienced feet if you were here, don't doubt that, just like all your other nationalist buddies who don't know xxxx about this nation but talk like they've got balls. I don't ever threaten. I don't need to...

                      You are the type of Armenian that Armenian was talking about many times.
                      And your an Armenian that disses his own people. So go jump off a cliff Karo, you'll be doing your a country a great service!

                      @moderators: why is this guy allowed to allowed to threaten and insult members of this forum without him getting his ass banned???
                      ...I'm sorry I hurt your pathetic feelings. Stop whining as if your the victim. It's not you, it's my people that are the victim. YOU should be banned for what you said!

                      Look at how stupid the governments is acting /end sarcasm
                      WOW, the gov. did what it had NO CHOICE but to do. What a GREAT gov. Retard. Datark glukhd eli ban chumutav. U lakot, inchu Anoushi asatsnerin ushadrutsyun chdartsrir? Karogha imast chunein? Inchkan lurj baner asets. I'm not gonna spoon feed you kid. You wanna learn something, now's your chance. And stop trying so hard to offend me cause you couldn't even if you wanted to. I've seen clowns more serious then you. Start learning/asking proper questions or go back to your junkyard kani chem lurjatsel!
                      THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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