Iranian Drug Dealers Arrested in Armenia

[KanadaHye]

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link doesn't work.

stupid xxx - posted it here http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l?goto=newpost

[retro]

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I'm glad in our culture such blood relations is not accepted.

In 'civilized' nations such practices are outlawed. As inbreeding results in serious hereditary health problems and mental disorders.

King Charles II is a good example of why inbreeding isn't a good idea.



Inbreeding brought down Habsburg dynasty

http://corpau.blogspot.com/2009/04/inbreeding-brought-down-habsburg.html

[KanadaHye]

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Inbreeding brought down Habsburg dynasty
http://corpau.blogspot.com/2009/04/i...-habsburg.html

For that very reason the Royals are referred to a s "Blue Bloods".

The very public face of the Royal Family is under scrutiny here,

BUT in the Financial sector, the Dynasty of the Rothschilds is NEVER publcised. They also suffered because of inbreeding.

In the current British Windsor Family, Prince Charles exhibits the traits of an inbred.

The reason why Princess Diana was brought in is to bring new blood into the gene pool, and once her job was done she could be disposed of.

Interesting point of view.

[retro]

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Well into the AD era, Iranic peoples populated much of Central Asia and the Russian steppe. The constant Chinese push against its Mongoloid/Turkic neighbors to the north resulted in the eventual migration of these tribes to the west where they came to conquer and then mix with the local Iranic peoples. The three mixes that resulted in the Central Asian countries were: Mongol-Turkic, Mongol-Iranic, Iranic-Turkic. Uzbeks are a result of the Iranics and Turkics mixing, while the Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are a result of Mongols and Iranics mixing. It is the Turkmen and possibly the proto-Oghuz turks or Oghuz turks who were likely the result of Mongols and Turkics mixing.

Not sure where you are getting your figures for the Kyrgyz having Scythian blood, especially such a high percentage. Just looking at the typical Kyrgyz one can see that they have more Asiatic features than their Uzbek cousins.

Peoples ancestry isn't necessarily governed by race. Kazakhstan was basically a European land up until the 13th century. Language, ethnicity and culture seldom correlate.

Around 20% of the Mongols ancestry is Western Eurasian and Turkic peoples are a intermediary group between the two. Turkic is a Hunnic derivative, that acculturated a Eastern Siberian language. However Ugrians and their Siberian brothers are not to be confused with Mongols or Turkic peoples.

In Western China the Tocharians and Yuezhi where allied with the Tang against the Xiongnu. However they where displaced western ward by the Xiongnu. All of these Eastern Indo-European Iranic people where ethnically Hunnic (proto-Turkic). However some of these people such as the Tocharians much like the Tatars in the west where far more Western Eurasian than Mongol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuezhi#Origins

The Uyghurs are a Hunnic peoples and whilst they later became a Turkic vassal. It's intresting to note, that they once had a Eastern Buddhist empire of their own.

The Uyghur-speaking region of western China is centered around Kashgar to the east of Tajikistan and Uyghurs have quite a lot of Iranic ancestry.



Whilst the West Asian components of todays Uyghurs, generally has a lot more to do with much latter West Asian silk road migrations. The Uyghurs seemingly believe that they are in part descended from the Tocharians/Yuezhi.

[KanadaHye]

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Peoples ancestry isn't necessarily governed by race. Kazakhstan was basically a European land up until the 13th century. Language, ethnicity and culture seldom correlate.

If people's ancestry isn't governed by race then what it it governed by? Location? If you claim Kazakhstan was European, what is "Europe" and who gave "Europe" dominion over the current land mass known as Kazakhstan? Ethnicity, culture and language are progressive and did correlate historically prior to indigenous people discovering other indigenous people and exchanging their culture and language.

[Armanen]

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Retro, are you sure you read my post correctly? The Iranic peoples of Central Asia were Hunnic? Where are you getting this info from? The Iranic tribes pre date the Hunnic tribes and one was Caucasoid, the other Mongoloid.

[retro]

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Retro, are you sure you read my post correctly? The Iranic peoples of Central Asia were Hunnic? Where are you getting this info from? The Iranic tribes pre date the Hunnic tribes and one was Caucasoid, the other Mongoloid.

Caucasoid and Mongoloid are regional climatic adaptations, that predate the post-glacial distribution of most modern peoples. Due to admixture and ancient migration. Peoples racial types are not strictly speaking, indicative of peoples ancestry or origins.

If for example you where to sire a son with a Mongol women and your son where to assimilate himself into Mongol society. Then as long as your male progenitors continue to sire sons. All of your offspring would have Armenian origins, would they not? Even though they might look like full blooded Mongols?

Although many of them, may look like Mongols. The Ugrians and Siberians aren't closely related to the Mongols at all. Since the Mongols are very ancient Mongoloid Asian peoples. Whilst the Ugrians and Siberians are predominantly of Eurasian (Indian) origin.

The Eastern Persian/Greek empires had Hunnic elements and the Persian eastern empire was enormous. It's earlier Iranic-Mongol interaction that first gave rise to Hunnic and by extension Turkics tribes.

The Tocharians where outright Indo-Europeans and whilst they had 'European' features. They where nevertheless a mixed peoples. However not to the degree of Hunnic/Turkic peoples.

[retro]

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If people's ancestry isn't governed by race then what it it governed by? Location? If you claim Kazakhstan was European, what is "Europe" and who gave "Europe" dominion over the current land mass known as Kazakhstan? Ethnicity, culture and language are progressive and did correlate historically prior to indigenous people discovering other indigenous people and exchanging their culture and language.

In regards to Kazakhstan. One has to keep in mind that the Europeans (at least for the most part) are a admixture of indigenous European (West Asians) and ancient Central Asian peoples.

The distribution of east and west Eurasian lineages through time in the region is concordant with the available archaeological information: prior to the thirteenth-seventh century BC, all Kazakh samples belong to European lineages; while later an arrival of east Eurasian sequences that coexisted with the previous west Eurasian genetic substratum can be detected. The presence of an ancient genetic substratum of European origin in West Asia may be related to the discovery of ancient mummies with European features in Xinjiang and to the existence of an extinct Indo-European language, Tocharian. This study demonstrates the usefulness of the ancient DNA in unravelling complex patterns of past human migrations so as to help decipher the origin of present-day admixed populations.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1691686/

[Armanen]

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Caucasoid and Mongoloid are regional climatic adaptations, that predate the post-glacial distribution of most modern peoples. Due to admixture and ancient migration. Peoples racial types are not strictly speaking, indicative of peoples ancestry or origins.

If for example you where to sire a son with a Mongol women and your son where to assimilate himself into Mongol society. Then as long as your male progenitors continue to sire sons. All of your offspring would have Armenian origins, would they not? Even though they might look like full blooded Mongols?

Although many of them, may look like Mongols. The Ugrians and Siberians aren't closely related to the Mongols at all. Since the Mongols are very ancient Mongoloid Asian peoples. Whilst the Ugrians and Siberians are predominantly of Eurasian (Indian) origin.

The Eastern Persian/Greek empires had Hunnic elements and the Persian eastern empire was enormous. It's earlier Iranic-Mongol interaction that first gave rise to Hunnic and by extension Turkics tribes.

The Tocharians where outright Indo-Europeans and whilst they had 'European' features. They where nevertheless a mixed peoples. However not to the degree of Hunnic/Turkic peoples.

My future kin, in this case, would have trace amounts of Armenian in them but at the end of the day they would be throughly Mongol in culture and have very little Armenian blood. So in practical terms, they would NOT be Armenian.

[retro]

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My future kin, in this case, would have trace amounts of Armenian in them but at the end of the day they would be throughly Mongol in culture and have very little Armenian blood. So in practical terms, they would NOT be Armenian.

In terms of ethnicity but not ancestry. As all your male heirs would technically be half Armenian. The point is that race is not always indicative of peoples origins.