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  • #31
    Re: Poverty in Armenia.

    Originally posted by Yedtarts View Post
    JohnCanadian
    Are you saying that there are no Canadian prostitutes or poverty in Canada?
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    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #32
      Re: Poverty in Armenia.

      we are not here disparaging Armenians, you know too well the closeness of the two people and deep affection that our people have for you, therefore it only evokes profound indignation to see this happening to our kiss and kit! to very people that so dear to us, the only people that we have!

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      • #33
        Re: Poverty in Armenia.

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Armenian needs an ultra conservative government that works for the benefit of the people, promoting growth and wealth by bringing business into the country. Right now the government is just making a quick buck by selling out.
        Isn't it sad though, true but very sad.

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        • #34
          Re: Poverty in Armenia.

          You guys gotta be kidding me. The great conservative policies of trickle down economics and derregulation is what got the USA and the rest of the world into a economic xxxxhole and this is what you want for Armenia?
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • #35
            Re: Poverty in Armenia.

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            You guys gotta be kidding me. The great conservative policies of trickle down economics and derregulation is what got the USA and the rest of the world into a economic xxxxhole and this is what you want for Armenia?
            When it comes to wealth, people need 3 things
            -Shelter
            -Food
            -A functional system to acquire the above

            Armenia has the land for agriculture and farming so that shouldn't be an issue. They also have natural resources that hold value for trade. However, many of these resources aren't working in favour of the Armenian citizens. How can people sit on top of gold but not see a dime of it? When it comes to sustaining growth, all that is needed are the basics. That is all the government should be focused on providing while allowing citizens access to the resources so they can build, grow and retain wealth for the country.
            Last edited by KanadaHye; 10-19-2009, 11:46 AM.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #36
              Re: Poverty in Armenia.

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              When it comes to wealth, people need 3 things
              -Shelter
              -Food
              -A functional system to acquire the above

              Armenia has the land for agriculture and farming so that shouldn't be an issue. They also have natural resources that hold value for trade. However, many of these resources aren't working in favour of the Armenian citizens. How can people sit on top of gold but not see a dime of it? When it comes to sustaining growth, all that is needed are the basics. That is all the government should be focused on providing while allowing citizens access to the resources so they can build, grow and retain wealth for the country.
              The natural recourses are very limited. To impliment successful economic policy we need open borders.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • #37
                Re: Poverty in Armenia.

                Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                The natural recourses are very limited. To impliment successful economic policy we need open borders.
                I'm not against open borders, but the idea that what Armenia has right now isn't enough is silly. Armenia has access to the entire world through Georgia so they can easily be inventing, creating, and exporting. They're not for a number of reasons and I believe these two are the biggest reasons:

                - The basic rules of Capitalism aren't followed, such as right to property, you can't expect entrepreneurs to be aggressive and ambitious if they've got no legal framework to make things happen and are instead afraid of the local kingpins or mafia men at every corner.

                - There is a serious lack of investment and interest in education. Without this, we can't expect to have an economy of inventors and producers, which is what every strong country is founded upon. Unless the Armenian people and nation develop a serious interest and thirst for education, nothing will ever change for the better and things will only get worse.


                Open borders? That's fine, but that's in no way a fix to the current problems.

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                • #38
                  Re: Poverty in Armenia.

                  Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
                  I'm not against open borders, but the idea that what Armenia has right now isn't enough is silly. Armenia has access to the entire world through Georgia so they can easily be inventing, creating, and exporting. They're not for a number of reasons and I believe these two are the biggest reasons:

                  - The basic rules of Capitalism aren't followed, such as right to property, you can't expect entrepreneurs to be aggressive and ambitious if they've got no legal framework to make things happen and are instead afraid of the local kingpins or mafia men at every corner.

                  - There is a serious lack of investment and interest in education. Without this, we can't expect to have an economy of inventors and producers, which is what every strong country is founded upon. Unless the Armenian people and nation develop a serious interest and thirst for education, nothing will ever change for the better and things will only get worse.


                  Open borders? That's fine, but that's in no way a fix to the current problems.
                  The problem with Georgia is that the border with Russia is closed and the price we are paying to use their ports is too high.

                  The education part: if you don't have enough food you will not care about education. First we need to get the economy going and then we can start talking about the rest. And I agree there should be hell lot more investment in the Armenian economy.

                  You've got people living in palaces outside of Armenia why aren't they investing a little bit in Armenia.

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                  • #39
                    Australia's European Living Standards

                    Australia has a European Standard of living, it is a very wealthy country. It is one of the leading Regional Powers in Asia Pacific.

                    I believe Australia is very well suited to becoming an EU State in the future. It has such a European way of doing things. The EU should absorb Australia or put Australia into the EU's Satellite.

                    In Canada Kevin Rudd - Australia's most popular Prime Minister is a highly competent and very bright man, despite his Asperges like traits. I can tell you that Kevin Rudd is very well received in Canada as well among the Harper Government.

                    I say this because Armenia as a devastated former Soviet Republic could learn a lot of the European behavior of Australia and its true affirmation of Democracy and mixed Capitalism.

                    Among my favourite Countries are Australia Asia Pacific Romania a South Eastern European Country/Balkan] Poland Central Europe Slovenia Central Europe Czech Republic Central Europe.

                    Armenia could also learn a lot of those EU States from Central Europe/South Eastern Europe/Balkan In terms of assisting fledging and the extremely poor former Soviet non Democratic Republics that are still very much struggling very much to develop in many ways.

                    The CE and the South Eastern European/Balkan EU States can teach the former Soviet Republics to rebuild their severely crippled economies, economic management, micro economics, Democracy.

                    With Romania (South Eastern Europe/Balkan located EU State) and Poland (Central European Country) being the Regional Powers of each region - Poland Regional Power for Central Europe and Romania Regional Power for South Eastern Europe/Balkans can provide an immense wealth of highly valuable expertise. Poland and Romania were never part of the Soviet Union and not part of Yugoslavia and therefore have the necessary expertise to assist these struggling former Soviet Republics onto the road of economic and political reforms.

                    As Joe Biden said Poland and Romania should lead the way.

                    Canada has excellent relations with Romania and Poland right from the early 1900s. This will remain so forever as these increasingly important Countries are part of the EU 2004/07, and also valuable influential NATO Members.

                    Romania (especially) and Poland are among the top 10 Countries in the world for natural resources and this is very attractive to Canada and Canadian Companies that do business with these competent, well educated EU States. Romania and Poland are among Canada's biggest Trading Partners - Poland Central Europe's biggest trading partner and South Eastern Europe Romania is by far the biggest Trading Partner and most important EU State in SEE. I expect after the crisis to see more Canadian Companies investing in these two rapidly developing and rapidly increasingly wealthy EU States in the years to come
                    Last edited by JohnCanadian; 10-29-2009, 03:52 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Australia's European Living Standards

                      Originally posted by JohnCanadian View Post
                      Australia has a European Standard of living, it is a very wealthy country. It is one of the leading Regional Powers in Asia Pacific.

                      I believe Australia is very well suited to becoming an EU State in the future. It has such a European way of doing things. The EU should absorb Australia or put Australia into the EU's Satellite.

                      In Canada Kevin Rudd - Australia's most popular Prime Minister is a highly competent and very bright man, despite his Asperges like traits. I can tell you that Kevin Rudd is very well received in Canada as well among the Harper Government.

                      I say this because Armenia as a devastated former Soviet Republic could learn a lot of the European behavior of Australia and its true affirmation of Democracy and mixed Capitalism.

                      Among my favourite Countries are Australia Asia Pacific Romania a South Eastern European Country/Balkan] Poland Central Europe Slovenia Central Europe Czech Republic Central Europe.

                      Armenia could also learn a lot of those EU States from Central Europe/South Eastern Europe/Balkan In terms of assisting fledging and the extremely poor former Soviet non Democratic Republics that are still very much struggling very much to develop in many ways.

                      The CE and the South Eastern European/Balkan EU States can teach the former Soviet Republics to rebuild their severely crippled economies, economic management, micro economics, Democracy.

                      With Romania (South Eastern Europe/Balkan located EU State) and Poland (Central European Country) being the Regional Powers of each region - Poland Regional Power for Central Europe and Romania Regional Power for South Eastern Europe/Balkans can provide an immense wealth of highly valuable expertise. Poland and Romania were never part of the Soviet Union and not part of Yugoslavia and therefore have the necessary expertise to assist these struggling former Soviet Republics onto the road of economic and political reforms.

                      As Joe Biden said Poland and Romania should lead the way.

                      Canada has excellent relations with Romania and Poland right from the early 1900s. This will remain so forever as these increasingly important Countries are part of the EU 2004/07, and also valuable influential NATO Members.

                      Romania (especially) and Poland are among the top 10 Countries in the world for natural resources and this is very attractive to Canada and Canadian Companies that do business with these competent, well educated EU States. Romania and Poland are among Canada's biggest Trading Partners - Poland Central Europe's biggest trading partner and South Eastern Europe Romania is by far the biggest Trading Partner and most important EU State in SEE. I expect after the crisis to see more Canadian Companies investing in these two rapidly developing and rapidly increasingly wealthy EU States in the years to come
                      Okay before you even start, Australia is a nation that wants its sovereignty intact and what you talk of will never happen. I have friends that are Australian and I have lived in Australia myself and what you say is insulting. Australia is a free country and doesn't need the EU to take it over.

                      This whole discussion of yours in this topic (and even on this whole forum) is not on Armenia, and instead seems to just focus on how Canada is doing, how great Canada is, and talk about how great the EU is, and complement allies of the USA, while at the same time you insult Armenia and other countries that aren't doing that well economically.

                      Why are you even still here? I give up...it seems to be you are just here to cause trouble and insult people for not being born in Canada.

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