Are we ready for a second Karabakh war?

[skhara]

Why couldn't they be mashed? lol

Armenians can help them with that.

[karoaper]

It's scary nontheless. Another war will mean more sons, fathers, brothers being plucked from their families. I still remember as a kid the trucks of dead 20 year olds coming back to Yerevan. We won, but not without a heavy price. But, I agree that the Arcakcis will fight till last drop of blood. The kids are getting weapon training as part of mandatory classes in school.

The thing that screws Azeris is the enormous corruption they have in every layer of government. With such a corruption they're not going to organize an effective military force, although the Turks might be helping them with that.
Also, while weaponrywise and numberswise they had the edge, tactically and strategically they were children compared to us. Armenia has produced some of the greatest generals and marshals during the WWII. There was a Russian TV program once that openly conceeded that the Armenian army was the or one of the most tactically savvy armies among all the old soviet republics. I don't know how much Turks are helping them with that, but I don't think they can accumulate enough tactical accumen to match us.

[skhara]

There was a Russian TV program once that openly conceeded that the Armenian army was the or one of the most tactically savvy armies among all the old soviet republics.

karoap, General Lebed stated that the NKR Army is the most battle ready and disciplined fighting forces anywhere on the former Soviet territories.

[Don_Begian]

The US forces have spend billions of dollars to win the war in Iraq, but did they won it?

Money is always a great support in a war, but it is not enough to win a war.
You have to have a big moral, you have to have intelligent generals and stragesist. And the support of Russia .

And if Azerbeidjan invests that much of money in their military budget,
that means that their social and economic branches will suffer from it.

[Siamanto]

Azerbaijan spending $600 million on it's military! After all, they got oil...

$600M is nada! The amount of oils is also nada! The benefits of the oil will probably be less than nada!

BTW does anyone know what our military budget is?

Shouldn't be hard to find. I will when I have the time.

Small fried potatoes in OIL...

Why couldn't they be mashed? lol

Insignificant fried potatoes.

Why couldn't they be mashed? Because they are too fried, almost burnt? They're no good! Where is the trashcan?

[CatWoman]

AZERBAIJAN COULD WIN A MILITARY VICTORY OVER ARMENIA BY 2015

Yet, U.S. and Western European Experts do not envision Karabakh’s return to an "autonomous" status within Azerbaijan

According to the survey conducted by the Armenian Assembly of America (AAA), most U.S. and Western European expert-respondents see a significant shift in terms of military capability in favor of Azerbaijan over Armenia due to the increase in its oil revenue. One-third of respondents predict that Azerbaijan could win a military victory over Armenia by 2015. Asked "In your opinion, a resumption of open warfare in the near future would see which outcome?", 42 per cent believed "Armenians win", "stalemate"- 29 per cent, "no comment"- 29 per cent, and no one believed "Azeris win." On the other hand, only 4 per cent of respondents predict that Armenia could win a military victory over Azerbaijan by 2015.

Most respondents see Azerbaijan’s enrichment from increased oil production, along with other Azerbaijan-related developments, to have the biggest effect on Armenia, "for good or for worse."

Starting in 2004, the Office of Research & Information at the AAA conducts a yearly survey in an attempt to gauge expert opinion of how Armenian issues are perceived within the United States and Western Europe. The survey (conducted by Tim Manook (St. Andrews University, UK) and supervised by Emil Sanamyan (AAA) respondents include former U.S. government officials, think tank analysts and university academics. The survey was conducted firstly through e-mail, and a certain number of follow-ups required telephone calls. There were 24 responses for 2005 survey, and the total number (24) represents approximately a 5-10 per cent sample of the targeted expert community that watches developments in Armenia and the region.

None of the respondents envision Karabakh’s return to an "autonomous" status within Azerbaijan, while one-fifth sees its formal reunification with Armenia or independence. At the same time a solid majority - 62 per cent - sees a persistent status quo. As in 2004 survey, the overwhelming response was a continuation of the status quo. Respondents pointed to the "Cyprusisation" of the Karabakh conflict.

Most respondents do not believe that recent revolutions in Georgia, Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan would lead to destabilization of either Armenia or Azerbaijan. Asked "U.S. foreign policy maintains great emphasis on supporting democratization. How do you think recent events in Georgia, Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan will impact upon Armenia?", 48 per cent predicted "Lead to more responsible governance", 22 per cent - "Have no tangible effect" and only 4 per cent sees "Lead to democratic revolution". As of Azerbaijan, 25 per cent believes "Lead to instability and government crackdown", 25 per cent - "Lead to more responsible governance", 29 per cent - "Have no tangible effect" and only 8 per cent sees "Lead to democratic revolution".

Respondents are more inclined to think that both political and military influence of the United States in the South Caucasus will grow and intensify. They have become significantly more pessimistic about the course of U.S.- Russian relations, with a majority seeing this year increased competition. Respondents have become significantly more pessimistic about the course of U.S.-Iranian relations, with a majority predicting increased conflict short of a military confrontation.

The majority of U.S. and Western European Experts believe that Turkey would eventually join the European Union by 2020-25. Still, a majority does not believe that Ankara could positively address the Armenian Genocide. While still a minority, more than 45 per cent of respondents expect to see U.S. affirmation of the Armenian Genocide in the next five years. To a question "How do you see the development of U.S.-Turkey relations over the next three years?" 62 per cent predicted "Continuation of status quo", 17 per cent - "Closer cooperation."

In a survey, there was one general question: "Finally, which developments in the region do you perceive will have the most effect on Armenia (for good or for worse)?" Accumulatively, 45 per cent of concern is focused over issues connected with Azerbaijan, 16 per cent with Turkey, 11 and 9 per cent respectively Russia and Georgia, leaving 19 per cent concerns with "other" issues, such as Iran, Iraq and so on.

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[crusader1492]

Re: Are we ready for a second Karabakh war?

AZERBAIJAN WILL BE DESTROYED BY THEIR OWN ANNOUNCEMENTS

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«THE KARABAKH CONFLICT HAS NO MILITARY SOLUTION»

17 years later Peter Semneby has returned to Armenia with a new post – as the EU special envoy to Southern Caucasus. In 1988 Mr. Semneby arrived in Armenia to support the earthquake victims on behalf of Sweden. During the meeting with the RA Foreign Minister the EU special envoy discussed two issues – the course of the settlement of the Karabakh conflict and the Armenian-Turkish relations

“Mr. Talvitie, the previous envoy, created good background for my activity, but my mandate is a little different. The EU wants to have more active participation in the settlement of the frozen conflicts in Southern Caucasus”, Mr. Semneby said during the meeting with the journalists. As for how the activity of the EU will be revealed, Mr. Semneby did go into details.

In any case he said that the UE highly appreciates the activity of the French co-chair of the OSCE Minsk group and added, “There is a real possibility to settle the conflict and we must use it. This year is very important and I’m sure that both sides are eager to settle the conflict”.

Encouraging as Mr. Semneby’s announcement was, the military announcements of he Azeri high officers come to testify the opposite - that Azerbaijan has no desire to settle the conflict via peaceful negotiations. “I have told the Azeri high officers that I do not welcome their announcements and they can be dangerous. I think my message was clear”, Peter Semneby said.

According to Mr. Semneby, in case the settlement of the conflict is postponed, the blockade of Armenia will continue, and development of he economy will be hindered and Azerbaijan will be destroyed because of the announcements to solve the conflict by the military way. Sharing Mr. Semneby’s opinion, Vardan Oskanyan said, “The Karabakh conflict has no military solution. The only way out is the negotiations and mutual compromise. Armenia has already made compromise and cannot go back. Now it’s Azerbaijan’s turn”.

By the way, on April 7 in Moscow the OSCE Minsk group Russian co-chair Yuri Merzlyakov will meet Vardan Oskanyan in Moscow

[crusader1492]

Re: Are we ready for a second Karabakh war?

BAKU SUGGESTS LAUNCHING NATION-WIDE INFORMATION CAMPAIGN
The war between Azerbaijan and Armenia takes place not only at the contact line of fire, but also in the information space. From time to time and sometimes regularly both countries commit diversion and implement campaigns to provoke the adversary and convey their truth on the developments to the international community. There is a huge number of examples of Azerbaijan's defeat in information war against Armenia, writes the Zerkalo, a Baku-based newspaper. Another matter is who is guilty of it, the newspaper asks. «Undoubtedly, the state structures of Azerbaijan are guilty first of all, e.g. the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the State Committee on Affairs of Azerbaijanis Abroad. The Ministry and the Committee should think over campaigns and work out their implementation. «What do our Embassies do to disseminate the truth on the Armenian-Azeri relations throughout the world? Judging from the scarce information, received by Azerbaijan, our Embassies «do not suffer» special activity. The same is true of the Diaspora,» the Zerkalo writes. The article authors see a solution as follows, «All state structures, NGOs, political parties, citizens and all others, who care for the image of our country, should start a nation-wide campaign conditionally called Azerbaijan Starts Winning.» As initial actions the newspaper recommends providing all international structures with lists of cultural and historic values, which remained in the «occupied» territories and attain monitoring of their state. At that the newspaper underscores it is not «infected» with the idea that all agitation of history and culture of Azerbaijan should be of anti-Armenian nature.

http://www.armtown.com/news/en/pan/20060415/17428/

[karoaper]

Re: Are we ready for a second Karabakh war?

BAKU SUGGESTS LAUNCHING NATION-WIDE INFORMATION CAMPAIGN
The war between Azerbaijan and Armenia takes place not only at the contact line of fire, but also in the information space. From time to time and sometimes regularly both countries commit diversion and implement campaigns to provoke the adversary and convey their truth on the developments to the international community. There is a huge number of examples of Azerbaijan's defeat in information war against Armenia, writes the Zerkalo, a Baku-based newspaper. Another matter is who is guilty of it, the newspaper asks. «Undoubtedly, the state structures of Azerbaijan are guilty first of all, e.g. the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the State Committee on Affairs of Azerbaijanis Abroad. The Ministry and the Committee should think over campaigns and work out their implementation. «What do our Embassies do to disseminate the truth on the Armenian-Azeri relations throughout the world? Judging from the scarce information, received by Azerbaijan, our Embassies «do not suffer» special activity. The same is true of the Diaspora,» the Zerkalo writes. The article authors see a solution as follows, «All state structures, NGOs, political parties, citizens and all others, who care for the image of our country, should start a nation-wide campaign conditionally called Azerbaijan Starts Winning.» As initial actions the newspaper recommends providing all international structures with lists of cultural and historic values, which remained in the «occupied» territories and attain monitoring of their state. At that the newspaper underscores it is not «infected» with the idea that all agitation of history and culture of Azerbaijan should be of anti-Armenian nature.

http://www.armtown.com/news/en/pan/20060415/17428/

I've got a better campaign slogan for them: "Azerbaijan starts whining", or "Azerbaijan start winning in the war against reality". If Alyev calls, I'll be sure to suggest my idea.

[Starweaver]

Re: Are we ready for a second Karabakh war?

Well last time the war was raging our soldiers wiped their asses with azeris and the mujahedins that were sent from turkey and Afghanistan. Hah motherxxxxers, i don't know what they expect from us, that we just lie down and die, i mean the way they xxxxed up considering the amount of money that was channeled from the turkish government to them, is so pathetic that these guys are less than fried potatoes they are boiled broccoli.

sorry, i just became very angry all of a sudden