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Conference Debat Exposition
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Originally posted by Siamanto
P.S. By the way, something tells me that you were mentioned in this month's Nouvelles d'Armenie!
However, I did find something on the site that proves that the opinions of people like you are not universally held amongst Armenians.
Bonjour, je rentre de mon 31ème voyage dans l’est de la Turquie, je m’étonne que vous vous étonniez de cet état de fait concernant les transformations, démolitions ou autres concernant nos églises, c’est ainsi depuis toujours. Quand elle ne sont pas détruites, il y a toujours un intéret, toujours ! Une habitation, une ferme, une grange, une mosquée etc. A part la totale destruction, ce n’est pas toujours grave et il vaut mieux dans tous les cas une autre destination qui préservera le bâtiment. L’Eglise des St Apôtres de Kars est transformée en mosquée ? et bien tant mieux, j’ai toujours eu peur qu’elle disparaisse sous les marteaux-piqueurs. J’ai visité en 1971 les églises de Thil, près d’Elazig, aujourd’hui sous les eaux du barrage de Kéban, elles étaient transformées en granges et le foin a préservé les peintures que nous avons pu photographier, je suis en revanche plus inquiet des "restaurations", à Ani des "archéologues" turcs travaillent, ils ne répondent pas aux curieux qui les questionnent,tant que c’est J.P. Mahé on n’est pas inquiet, mais il est des cas où il faut se faire du souci. Concernant Aghtamar, j’ai discuté avec les archéologues du chantier, c’est grotesque ! ils me disent, comme pour se couvrir, "nous avons contacté un architecte arménien d’Istanbul qui a validé notre projet", sous la tente de chantier, cela fait sérieux, quantité de plans de différentes églises d’Arménie, de reproductions de fresques, on pourrait croire à quelque chose de très élaboré mais le travail est tout à fait discutable, il aurait été suffisant de consolider, de faire en sorte d’arrêter les dégradations, humaines et du temps plutôt que de rajouter de belles pierres taillées, de couleur totalement différentes. Au monastère du Mt Varak, (Yedi Kilisé en turc), une mosquée s’élève maintenant contigüe à l’église, on ne pourra plus rien faire là non plus même si ici un prétendu gardien entretien un peu pour que sa femme puisse vendre à l’intérieur des napperons et des chaussettes. Je retiendrais de ce récent voyage, que nous avons partout prié dans les églises, où l’on a voulu sans soucis aucun. Nous avons rencontré beaucoup d’arméniens d’Arménie avec dans leur bus des drapeaux en évidence, nous étions ma famille et moi heureux de cela, il n’y a pas longtemps encore c’était absolument impensable. Bien à vous. S. Boudoyan
(response to http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=19488)Plenipotentiary meow!
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Originally posted by bell-the-catP.P.S. Unless you cite a specific page, I must assume that this is just more of your hot air.
Unlike you, hot air and Straw Men are not my specialty. Anyway, how can I rival you in what you do best?
P.S. It's only in the printed version.
Originally posted by bell-the-catHowever, I did find something on the site that proves that the opinions of people like you are not universally held amongst Armenians.
Also, can you please let us know how Boudoyan contradicts the CDCA?
Originally posted by bell-the-catBonjour, je rentre de mon 31ème voyage dans l’est de la Turquie, je m’étonne que vous vous étonniez de cet état de fait concernant les transformations, démolitions ou autres concernant nos églises, c’est ainsi depuis toujours. Quand elle ne sont pas détruites, il y a toujours un intéret, toujours ! Une habitation, une ferme, une grange, une mosquée etc. A part la totale destruction, ce n’est pas toujours grave et il vaut mieux dans tous les cas une autre destination qui préservera le bâtiment. L’Eglise des St Apôtres de Kars est transformée en mosquée ? et bien tant mieux, j’ai toujours eu peur qu’elle disparaisse sous les marteaux-piqueurs. J’ai visité en 1971 les églises de Thil, près d’Elazig, aujourd’hui sous les eaux du barrage de Kéban, elles étaient transformées en granges et le foin a préservé les peintures que nous avons pu photographier, je suis en revanche plus inquiet des "restaurations", à Ani des "archéologues" turcs travaillent, ils ne répondent pas aux curieux qui les questionnent,tant que c’est J.P. Mahé on n’est pas inquiet, mais il est des cas où il faut se faire du souci. Concernant Aghtamar, j’ai discuté avec les archéologues du chantier, c’est grotesque ! ils me disent, comme pour se couvrir, "nous avons contacté un architecte arménien d’Istanbul qui a validé notre projet", sous la tente de chantier, cela fait sérieux, quantité de plans de différentes églises d’Arménie, de reproductions de fresques, on pourrait croire à quelque chose de très élaboré mais le travail est tout à fait discutable, il aurait été suffisant de consolider, de faire en sorte d’arrêter les dégradations, humaines et du temps plutôt que de rajouter de belles pierres taillées, de couleur totalement différentes. Au monastère du Mt Varak, (Yedi Kilisé en turc), une mosquée s’élève maintenant contigüe à l’église, on ne pourra plus rien faire là non plus même si ici un prétendu gardien entretien un peu pour que sa femme puisse vendre à l’intérieur des napperons et des chaussettes. Je retiendrais de ce récent voyage, que nous avons partout prié dans les églises, où l’on a voulu sans soucis aucun. Nous avons rencontré beaucoup d’arméniens d’Arménie avec dans leur bus des drapeaux en évidence, nous étions ma famille et moi heureux de cela, il n’y a pas longtemps encore c’était absolument impensable. Bien à vous. S. Boudoyan
(response to http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=19488)
In the printed version , there's also another article about the restorations of Akhtamar and a relatively long one on the state of Armenian monuments in Djavakhk that I will eventually post.What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.
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Originally posted by Siamanto
Also, can you please let us know how Boudoyan contradicts the CDCA?
She quite clearly writes that there is nothing wrong with a former church being converted to a mosque or other useful purpose since that ensures its preservation.
Originally posted by SiamantoIn the printed version , there's also another article about the restorations of Akhtamar and a relatively long one on the state of Armenian monuments in Djavakhk that I will eventually post.Plenipotentiary meow!
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Originally posted by bell-the-catIt seems that your general ignorance extends to an ignorance of the French language?
She quite clearly writes that there is nothing wrong with a former church being converted to a mosque or other useful purpose since that ensures its preservation.
Confused????
Please take the time to read and think. It helps to think! Also, please make an effort to control your insecure ego!
Originally posted by bell-the-catSpare us, M. Brocanteur! You seem to be almost as big an expert on posting things about places that you have never bothered to visit as you are on postings things on subjects you know nothing about!
You can't stand when articles of those who know better than you are diffused!What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.
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Re: Conference Debat Exposition
Originally posted by transienceThis thread was excellent late night entertainment. I just read it over. Siamanto always has to have the last word, why is that? I know he's going to see this and accuse me of gossiping, but I like provoking him.
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