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Originally posted by TomServoFeatured on Wikipedia's main page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_PageWhich Way is the Right Way?
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By the way I once jokingly told an Armenian friend of mine we Iranians can solve the Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute over Qarabag and Naxchivan by simply saying, "Hey you guys, before the Treaties of Gulistan (which is in Qarabag by the way) and Turkmenchay these were Iranian provinces why don't we Iranians take them back, and that way it'll be neither Armenian nor Azeri and there won't be anymore dispute...but I was just joking of course"...but back to reality, Azerbaijan is a threat to Iran's stability and territorial integrity, and I am glad there is an Armenia to neutralize it. I am also glad that Zangezur is in Armenian hands...that way Azerbaijan proper is cut off from Nakhchivan, and Naxchivan is conveniently trapped between Iran and Armenia, and except for a 7 mile border with Turkey, Nakhchivan is more or less dependent on Iran, given Armenia's blockade of Nakhchivan. Last time Azerbaijan tried screwing around with us Iranians, we cut off electricity to Nakhchivan. They learned pretty quick after that. I think Armenia was smart to take over Lachin...this was necessary for territorial contiguity between Qarabag and Armenia...nothing serves the interests of us Iranians more than a weak Azerbaijan...we need Russia and Armenia's help in this matter.
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Originally posted by TomServoFeatured on Wikipedia's main page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Originally posted by Iran ForeverBy the way I once jokingly told an Armenian friend of mine we Iranians can solve the Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute over Qarabag and Naxchivan by simply saying, "Hey you guys, before the Treaties of Gulistan (which is in Qarabag by the way) and Turkmenchay these were Iranian provinces why don't we Iranians take them back, and that way it'll be neither Armenian nor Azeri and there won't be anymore dispute...but I was just joking of course"...but back to reality, Azerbaijan is a threat to Iran's stability and territorial integrity, and I am glad there is an Armenia to neutralize it. I am also glad that Zangezur is in Armenian hands...that way Azerbaijan proper is cut off from Nakhchivan, and Naxchivan is conveniently trapped between Iran and Armenia, and except for a 7 mile border with Turkey, Nakhchivan is more or less dependent on Iran, given Armenia's blockade of Nakhchivan. Last time Azerbaijan tried screwing around with us Iranians, we cut off electricity to Nakhchivan. They learned pretty quick after that. I think Armenia was smart to take over Lachin...this was necessary for territorial contiguity between Qarabag and Armenia...nothing serves the interests of us Iranians more than a weak Azerbaijan...we need Russia and Armenia's help in this matter.
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Originally posted by Iran ForeverBy the way I once jokingly told an Armenian friend of mine we Iranians can solve the Armenian-Azerbaijani dispute over Qarabag and Naxchivan by simply saying, "Hey you guys, before the Treaties of Gulistan (which is in Qarabag by the way) and Turkmenchay these were Iranian provinces why don't we Iranians take them back, and that way it'll be neither Armenian nor Azeri and there won't be anymore dispute....
but I was just joking of course"...but back to reality, Azerbaijan is a threat to Iran's stability and territorial integrity, and I am glad there is an Armenia to neutralize it. I am also glad that Zangezur is in Armenian hands...that way Azerbaijan proper is cut off from Nakhchivan, and Naxchivan is conveniently trapped between Iran and Armenia, and except for a 7 mile border with Turkey, Nakhchivan is more or less dependent on Iran, given Armenia's blockade of Nakhchivan. Last time Azerbaijan tried screwing around with us Iranians, we cut off electricity to Nakhchivan. They learned pretty quick after that. I think Armenia was smart to take over Lachin...this was necessary for territorial contiguity between Qarabag and Armenia...nothing serves the interests of us Iranians more than a weak Azerbaijan...we need Russia and Armenia's help in this matter
And it was the politically naieve Shah which gave the piece of land linking Nakhijevan with Turkey. What a stupid mistake. The Turks were pursuing pan-turanic politicies right under his nose and the shah let them have it. must have not understood that if Armenia goes, Iran will be surrounded completely by Turks to the north, from where they will base their attacks to "liberate" "south azerbaijan".
Fortunately, Iran today is a politically matured state with a strong and powerful ruler who isn't going let anyone make a puppet out of it for their self-interests.
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Federation...you misunderstood the humor...and it was not meant as an insult...nor is any modern day Iranian making claims to any part of Armenia...NO Iranian is saying because Yerevan was an Iranian-ruled khanate it belongs to us, NO Iranian is saying that about Karabakh or Armenia proper...we respect your history, your territorial integrity and your people. I had no idea you would be so sensitive, but at the same time, please realize it was a joke between an Armenian friend of mine and myself. By the way, today's Urmia has become a highly contested piece of real estate between Armenians, Azerbaijanis and Kurds...today it is mostly Kurdish and Azerbaijani populated and both are fighting over it. Politically, it is the capital of Iran's West Azerbaijan Province today, but the battle between ethnic Azeris and Kurds over it continues. Then you have the Kurdish-Armenian dispute over Kars...but as long as Kars is being ruled by Turkey, infighting between Armenians and Kurds will not produce any results, and will not help either Kurds or Armenians, both of whom have gotten a raw deal from Turks and Turkey. Please Federation, we have no outstanding issues with Armenia...we are friends.Last edited by Iran Forever; 07-05-2006, 06:12 PM.
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Iran Forever:
Historically, Iranians are the closest relatives of the Armenian people. Therefore I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Iranian people. Moreso given the fact that Armenians were able to preserve their language, culture, and national identity within Iran for over 500 years. I view Iran as an important country for the future settlement of the Armenian Case. Currently the interests of our countries are one and the same: We both have the same enemies.
I still have not forgotten when the Iranian war ships gave those Azeris a scare in the Caspian.
Cheers to Armenian-Iranian relations!
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