Armenia's Military vs. its neighbors'

[armoblog]

Hi all,

I did some research to see where we stand militarily with our neighbors: Comparison of Militaries. It is simple and crude, but it does tell an important story.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

Cheers!

[EMRE]

Re: Armenia's Military vs. its neighbors'

Hi all,

I did some research to see where we stand militarily with our neighbors: Comparison of Militaries. It is simple and crude, but it does tell an important story.

Have a look and let me know what you think.

Cheers!

its totally untrue these are all trash!!!!.you underestimated turkish military capacity,....only I can laugh at this you can not know it exactly,turkey and russia have secret weapon storage and programs....

[melikianAvak]

Re: Armenia's Military vs. its neighbors'

its totally untrue these are all trash!!!!.you underestimated turkish military capacity,....only I can laugh at this you can not know it exactly,turkey and russia have secret weapon storage and programs....

I don't understand why you are upset. It seems that it's enogh to murder Children,women and the elderly. Isn't that the purpose of the Holy Turkish Military?

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THE FIRST REPUBLIC (FROM 1918 TO SOVIETIZTION IN 1920-1921)

Collapse of Transcaucasian Federation. The triumph of Bolsheviks in 1917 put an end to the Russian Empire. In winter 1918, the Armenian, Georgian and Moslem leaders of Transcaucasia united to convene the Transcaucasian Federation, which proclaimed the secession of Transcaucasia from Russia.

The Turks, rapturous over the Russian Revolution, took it almost as a miracle produced by Allah. With the decline of the Russian military power, the Caucasus front collapsed, and the decaying Turkish power survived. To prevent the further destruction of the new Bolshevik State, Vladimir Lenin was forced to conclude the humiliating Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The treaty had drastic consequences for the Armenians. The Turkish forces reoccupied the lands of the Western Armenia, earlier liberated by Russians.

In late May 1918, under the threat of a new Turkish offensive on the Caucasus, the Transcaucasian Federation collapsed after only 3 months of existence. In fact, the Federation was a still-born creature from the very beginning. Insuperable divergences existed between the Armenian, Georgian and Moslem deputations. The Georgians were oriented to Germany, and the Moslems to Turkey, whereas the Armenians, though loyal to the Entente, were supported by nobody.
On May 26 the independence of Georgia was declared. At the same time, the Moslems proclaimed a "Musavat Republic of Azerbaijan". This new Turkish state, created in the historical lands of the eastern Armenia, immediately and shamelessly laid claims on the Armenian territories in Karabakh, Zangezur and Nakhichevan.


The independence of Armenia proclaimed.
Flag of Armenia Left alone, Armenians faced the total annihilation as the 100 thousandth Turkish army crossed the pre-war Russian frontier, annexed the city of Kars and approached the Armenian capital of Yerevan. After having depopulated the Western Armenia, the Turkish military were now about to destroy the rest of Armenia and achieve their goal of eliminating the Armenian nation.
The Armenians raised an army of 40,000 men, including soldiers, officers, volunteers and mass levies. At first the Dashnak leaders wanted to evacuate the population and to surrender Yerevan, but the Military Council headed by the Colonel Pirumian finally decided to do battle.

The two armies met on May 28, 1918 near Sardarapat. The battle was crowned with an outstanding Armenian victory. Some 30 thousand of Turkish soldiers were killed; the Turks were flung out. Vahib-Pasha, the defeated Turkish commander, termed the Armenian soldiers as "the best fighters in the world". The Armenians also held defenses at Karaklis and at Abaran.
On the same day of May 28, 1918 Armenia was proclaimed an independent republic. However, the embryo state was devastated, with a dislocated economy, dozens of thousands of refugees and the population starving. The danger of a new Turkish aggression was still imminent. Also, the country was soon involved in a territorial conflict with Georgia. Moreover, the situation in Karabakh was especially dangerous as the new Azerbaijani state made a series of ultimatums to the Armenian population. In September, 1918 the Turkish troops invaded Baku and joined the Turkish-Azeri mobs in massacring some 30, 000 Armenians. Dozens of surrounding Armenian villages were destroyed.

The Wilsonian borders.

Woodrow Wilson Mean while, the European powers found themselves unable to solve the Armenian Question. The unification of the Caucasian Armenia with the Turkish Armenia proclaimed by the Armenian government in 1919 turned out Utopian. After Armenia was officially recognized by the governments of Allies and by the United States, the US President Woodrow Wilson was invited to determine the borders of the Armenian State. According to Wilson's map, a new Armenia would include most of its historically belonging lands. The project would never come true.

Armenia falls to Bolsheviks.

Mustafa Kemal Further more, Armenia would face the new territorial losses. Mustafa Kemal, the new Turkish opposition leader, was able to reach an agreement with the Bolshevik leaders of Russia. Enthusiastic with the idea of "exporting the revolution eastward", Lenin and Stalin were prompt in starting an unprecedented financial and military aid to Kemal. At that time Armenia exploded into anarchy as the Armenian Bolsheviks rose in the cities of Nakhichevan, Alexandrople and Kars. The Soviet government hypocritically negotiated with both Dashnak and Bolshevik leaders of Armenia.

In August 1920, the Treaty of Sèvres, signed by England, France and Turkey, bound Turkey to recognize the independence of Armenia and the Wilsonian boundaries. The new Armenian state was recognized by most of the countries, including the United States. However, after the triumph of Mustafa Kemal, the Turks, supported by the Bolshevik Russia, attacked the infant Armenian Republic again. The Armenian and Russian Bolsheviks played a fatal role in demoralizing the population and the Armenian army. The Bolshevik propaganda now called the Turks "socialists" and "friends of Russians". On the other hand, the victorious Russian XI Red Army, after successfully Sovietizing Baku, Azerbaijan, and Karabakh, approached Yerevan to "overthrow the Dashnaks". The disoriented Armenian army retreated, surrendering Kars and the uyezd of Surmali. The whole Armenian population there was then pitilessly butchered by the Turks.

On November 29, 1920, Armenia was declared a Soviet state.

Link: http://www.armenianhistory.info/thefirst.htm

[Orlandu]

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Turkey has to maintain a large army because she is aware of the fact that what she will not get away with what she did to Armenians,Kurds.Besides she knows that her existence in the world is sickening for everyone to the greatest extent so one day all the people in the world will decide to oust her and send its useless people to Asia.

[KarotheGreat]

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What would happen if turkey didn't have a army? the world would be a better place and the turks could all ready be in asia where they belong and we could have our lands back so let's hope till the day that the kurds will start a civil war in turkey and the armenian army can libaret it's lands from turkish opreshen and that will happen hoopfully very soon.

[MrLeftyHye]

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What would happen if turkey didn't have a army? the world would be a better place and the turks could all ready be in asia where they belong and we could have our lands back so let's hope till the day that the kurds will start a civil war in turkey and the armenian army can libaret it's lands from turkish opreshen and that will happen hoopfully very soon.

Agreed... 5 points!

[armoblog]

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its totally untrue these are all trash!!!!.you underestimated turkish military capacity,....only I can laugh at this you can not know it exactly,turkey and russia have secret weapon storage and programs....

Take a deep breath.

I am not pulling these figures out of my rear, but these are official estimates provided by CIA's World Factbook and other sources.

If you want to create secret armies in your head, be my guest. While you're at it, give Armenia the atomic bomb.

[Orlandu]

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What would happen if turkey didn't have a army? the world would be a better place and the turks could all ready be in asia where they belong and we could have our lands back so let's hope till the day that the kurds will start a civil war in turkey and the armenian army can libaret it's lands from turkish opreshen and that will happen hoopfully very soon.

If we can destroy their economical power,then without money,there will be no army.So we should establish an organization to ban Turkish products worldwide.

[MrLeftyHye]

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You all have valid points.

[Armenian]

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Turks are Asiatic squatters in Anatolia. They will, sooner or later, be evicted.