Hrant Dink murdered

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Hrant Dink was for peace and reconciliation between Turks & Armenians. He was respected by many Turks, even ones that disagreed with him because of the manner in which he took on sensitive and explosive matters.

His MURDER was seen with great disdain, outrage and sadness by many Turks.

You can take my words, slice and dice them how you want until you dehumanize me, or attempt to inject spin so as to take away from the sincerity that this post is done with...

That is your prerogative.

All I can tell you is that hate breeds hate and if you cannot distinguish between good people and bad because of some underlying racism then I feel sorry for you. Why? Cause this is probably the same mindset that many had through out history that enabled them to murder and kill innocent people - something I was under the impression many of you working to get acknowledged.

[crusader1492]

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Don't turn this around on me to make me look like a bad guy. You should have used the word "murder" in the first place.

You are a Turk. How am I able to distinguish you as a "good person" when:

1. 99% of Turks who come to this forum range from having a greywolf mindset to having a minset that is less outwardly, but never-the-less, anti-Armenian.

2. You still deny the Armenian Genocide.

Moreover, I don't think you give a damn about Hrant Dink. I believe you use his memory in a pathetic attempt to put Turks in a good light, as if they are peaceful and civilized people....it's all BS.

Clean your own house before you come to an Armenian forum to preach about hate.

[crusader1492]

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An good article hilighting the collective depraved mental illness and of Turks....

WHAT A COUNTRY
Turkish Daily News
April 16, 2008 Wednesday

Since the discovery of her body, the rape and murder of the Italian
artist became the subject of almost all top stories in Turkey.

Radikal's headline was also the following: "What kind of a country
is this?" A right question.

Dreadful, disgusting A young person, who dedicated herself to a certain
aim and embarked on a journey to make it real; a worldview that made
her a volunteer for such an act; an endless love for humanity; and
a unique understanding of ethicsAnd given all these, alas, the very
"understanding" of that creature who murdered her.

Relatives of the murdered person, too, do share, and definitely, live
similar values. And that's why they say, "this is just an individually
committed act by a wretched' psycho. Blaming Turkey only through
looking at such an individual incident would be wrong." This is
certainly true. But is it 100 percent pure truth? Isn't that famous
"individual case," a cliche that we'd love to utter whenever we
encounter such situations, anything but a pure camouflage of the very
"non-individual cases" most of the time?

Not long ago, Alanya became famous for its rape cases. And the
victims were generally the Dutch. Then appeared some of our "citizens"
that applauded the crap men who committed those acts. Now, I recall
that, on one of those days, upon the quick release of one of those
"individual psychos" after being held in custody as short as two days,
the Dutch prince, or princess-whoever I forgot-canceled his (or her)
visit to Turkey.

Weird enough, we act, most of the time, quite fast and highly carefully
in arresting and heavily punishing those who attack foreigners in
such ways. Perhaps this is because we do not want the whole world to
remember us with such cases (oh yes, this is what we have always cared
about). But here, too, there is this type of correlation resembling
the one between killing the mosquito and drying the marsh: Because
the roots of the attack committed by those "individual psychos"
lie in the very general ideology. Such attacks are mostly committed
against the "ecnebi" or "ajnabee," the foreigner, and the "gavur,"
the infidel, and hence, just because this is so, they do not even
seem like indictable offenses to the eyes of a considerably large
group living in this country. The psycho of the last case does have
a criminal record. But this guy definitely does not attempt "raping"
others in a perpetual manner. Such instincts in him are stimulated
only when he finds someone "Italian." Because a "gavur" is already a
"prostitute" by birth.
Persons who are products of that type of mentality (!) do not
necessarily have to have an inclination for a "sexual" crime only.

Can one tell me how much different is this last incident from
the Santoro murder, the Malatya case, the episode in which the
pure-hearted patriotic son of the motherland burst into elation and
cried, "I have killed the Armenian!" and again the same episode,
in which some officials were having their photographs taken with the
young hero killing the Armenian.
Parents of the youngster that murdered priest Santoro were recorded
in history with their words that can be interpreted as, "If our child
had murdered an imam, everyone would keep their strict silence, but
just because he murdered a priest, they have raised the devil." So,
one wonders, were these people more "individual Turks" while they
were uttering such words.

Okay, they were the mother and the father of the one who committed
the murder. And it is something expectable that they try to protect
their "baby" in someway or another. But still, all these "babies"
are, somehow, given the red carpet treatment and are taken to the
bosoms by some masses at the very moment they appear at the jail door
when set free. Ah yes, we are used to such chorus, aren't we. Let me
remind you of one more. "He was born in Malatya and he shot the Pope!"

Yet, there might not be anyone who goes to greet our latest folk
hero in front of the prison since he went behind the bars for he
committed a disgraceful, "infamous crime" not a successful act, a
"source of pride" that others have committed so far. But as long as
that general ideology continues to exist and its existence continues
to be supported, it will not be an epitome, and ones akin to it will
surely rise until history comes to an end. If this solid instigation
of nationalism and the blatant xenophobia will keep going on in an
escalating way, then, it would not be any surprise if one rises to
congratulate him and even present him a "plaque." As an "award for
ridding the world of one Italian".

Murat Belge's article was published in Radikal daily and was translated
by TDN staff

[Timetells]

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An good article hilighting the collective depraved mental illness and of Turks....

Your statement is blatantly racist.

Strange how your efforts to seek justice & honor the memory of your ancestors will be achieved by such hateful and racist remarks?


Regarding the article: Rape is not exclusive to Turks or Turkey. It is a crime committed by many sick individuals all over the world.

[Alexandros]

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Hrant Dink Murder

ECHR Asks: Why Did You Not Protect Hrant Dink?

The ECHR has granted Turkey until November to answer questions related to the murder of journalist Dink.

Erol ÖNDEROĞLU [email protected] Strasbourg-ankara - BİA News Center

18 June 2009, Thursday

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has received five applications related to the murder of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, the editor of the weekly Agos newspaper, in January 2007.

Having merged applications which were made at different times, the court is now asking Turkey questions, to which it wants answers by November.

Lawyer Deniz Tuna of the International Hrant Dink Foundation told bianet that the applications were related to parts of the European Convention on Human Rights concerned with the violation of the right to life, the right to an effective application to court, the right to a fair trial, the right to freedom of expression and the ban on discrimination.

One application by Dink himself

Hrant Dink had appealed to the ECHR two weeks before he was killed in relation to a six-month deferred prison sentence he had received under Article 159 of the Turkish Penal Code for a series of articles entitled "Armenian Identity".

Following his murder, lawyers for his family had appealed to the ECHR when the Trabzon police and gendarmerie and the Istanbul police were not taken to court although they were accused of having been negligent in evaluating intelligence on murder plans.

Another application relates to the lack of punishment for Samsun police officers who took "souvenir shots" with the suspected gunman Ogün Samast after catching him at the Samsun bus station a day after the murder.

Evidence of serious negligence

The Prime Ministerial Review Committee had pointed to a "serious lack of coordination" in the sharing of intelligence between security institutes prior to the murder. Nevertheless, no public official is being tried in the main murder case heard at the Istanbul 14th Heavy Penal Court.

Police Intelligence Head Ramazan Akyürek, Istanbul Chief of Police Celalettin Cerrah and Ahmet İlhan Güler from the Istanbul Intelligence Unit, as well as other officials, were never brought to court.

Rather, 18 young men, most from the Pelitli town in Trabzon province, are on trial for the murder, as well as Coşkun İğci, a gendarmerie informant who claims that he notified the officials of murder plans, and Osman Hayal, brother of suspect Yasin Hayal. Osman Hayal has been found to have been in Istanbul on the day of the murder, a fact which he denied for a long time.

The tenth hearing of the main murder trial is on 6 July.

Gendarmerie officers in separate case

Eight gendarmerie officers are on trial for negligence in not having evaluated the intelligence. However, they only face up to two years imprisonment. Their trial continues on 24 July.

Lawyers for the Dink family have long called for the cases to be merged, as it was the neglect of the officers which led to the death of Hrant Dink. (EÖ/AG)

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[Alexandros]

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Miklos Haraszti, the OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media, at the Permanent Council in Vienna, 3 July 2008. (OSCE/Mikhail Evstafiev)


OSCE media freedom representative urges Turkey to stop prosecution of author, reform laws that restrict speech rights

VIENNA, 18 June 2009 - Miklos Haraszti, the OSCE Representative on Freedom of the Media, asked Turkish authorities today to drop charges against journalist Nedim Sener for his investigative book on the murder of fellow journalist Hrant Dink, and called for urgent reform of laws that restrict freedom of expression.

"Sener is prosecuted in defiance of freedoms that both OSCE commitments and Council of Europe standards grant to critical publications," wrote Haraszti in a letter to Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. "What he did was critically assess the events leading up to Hrant Dink's murder, and the deficiencies afterwards in the handling of the case and in the prosecution of the perpetrators."

"Justice must not be degraded into an act of revenge by the criticized authorities," said Haraszti.

Sener, a journalist for newspaper Milliyet, faces up to 28 years of imprisonment for writing a book, entitled The Dink Murder and Intelligence Lies. The book alleges that security forces failed to stop the murder of the well-known Turkish-Armenian writer in 2007, and cites alleged incidents of negligence by gendarmerie, police and national intelligence officers working on the case.

"Media freedom commitments may be complied with only if fact-finding journalism receives the full backing of the law, and inaccuracies, if any have occurred, are not criminalized," wrote Haraszti in the letter.

"There exist legal provisions in Turkey that could be misused to curb freedom of expression and information," he added. "The Criminal Code, the Press Law, the Anti-Terrorism Law, and the recent Law No. 5651 on Internet regulation all need to be modernized so that they cannot be used to restrict speech rights."

"By dropping the charges against Sener, Turkey could now stop punishing the messengers of unwelcome news, and instead carry out much-needed legal reform to ensure freedom of expression."

Hrant Dink had publicly discussed the killing of Armenians in 1915 in terms that went against the official Turkish interpretations of history. For this, he was convicted in 2005 based on Article 301 of the Criminal Code, "denigrating Turkishness', and murdered in January 2007 by radical activists. The trial of the persons accused in his murder still continues.

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