Armenia's Economic Pulse

[hipeter924]

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Obama isn't taking away civil rights any more than previous Presidents, Romney wouldn't be any different. Neither as yet have gone as far as Roosevelt i.e. relocating all the Japanese and such to camps. The war mentality is starting to die away, people are sick of continuous war and want the economy to improve; even if Romney was elected and re-elected I doubt he would gain the support to go to war with Iran or Syria.

[Haykakan]

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Yes you are right Romney would not be any different. But i disagree about the war mentality going away. The problem is that even if it went away all the government needs to do is execute another falseflag operation and boom we are back to war. So long as people can be manipulated like sheep they will be treated as such. Whoever manages to get the NDAA into law (Obama or Romney) will be the one who takes away more rights from americans then ever before so it is a unique event unprecidented in its scope.

Obama isn't taking away civil rights any more than previous Presidents, Romney wouldn't be any different. Neither as yet have gone as far as Roosevelt i.e. relocating all the Japanese and such to camps. The war mentality is starting to die away, people are sick of continuous war and want the economy to improve; even if Romney was elected and re-elected I doubt he would gain the support to go to war with Iran or Syria.

[Mos]

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I am neither being childish nor annoying by pointing out the fact that you do not understand a lot of things. Corruption in USA is institutionalized and it continues to grow not just in the government but the education system also. Corruption during soviet days was a part of everyday life so everybody knew what was going on and what to do.. In USA normal people only get the bill and suffer the consequences without ever even knowing what for. Corruption in America is on a much larger scale and involves way more money then any corruption ever witnessed in the history of the human race. I was at the NAACP annual dinner last night and people were saying how much they value freedom yet they encouraged people to vote for Obama despite the fact that he is trying to take away civil rights. This is the big difference between soviet and usa - people in soviet union knew they were getting screwed and they knew who was screwing them and why and what it was costing them vs in today's usa people dont have a clue and will even make a hero out of the guy that screws them the hardest. Sad really if you think about it but that is humanity for ya-its a lot easier to get screwed then to think. Do not get offended because you are ignorent of some things since we all are-the real question is what are u going to do about your ignorence.

As I said before, corruption in the US is done via the special interests groups and big businesses that influence policy and government with big money. Though, it's also natural that big business and wealthy individuals are going to have such influence. Money talks. Doesn't matter what kind of society. In the Soviet Union, you had a similar oligarch class, and you had heavy corruption with everyday things. People obviously couldn't choose their leader and the leaders didn't have to really worry about the approval rating of their constituency. Of course, another flaw of Soviet Economy is the power that government has in setting prices and pay which can lead to drastic results. If you studied elementary economics you will know the drastic consequences of curbing economic by arbitrary policy rather than market demand. In general when government tries to manipulate market forces overbearingly, it doesn't turn out well. Just look at how well the Giant Leap Forward turned out...of course, no system is flawless.

Personal insults is done by people who have no argument and need to somehow supplement their argument with unnecessary personal insults, as it will somehow make their points better. If you can't argue like a man without petty insults, then just don't argue.

[Haykakan]

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I am not personaly insulting you when i state that you have much to learn-its simply stating a fact which is backed up by multitude of posts you have made and continue to make. I teach economics for a college so no need to lecture me but you may wana take one of my classes. You keep proving that you do not know things in every post you make like in this one when you state that people didn't choose their leaders in the USSR thereby implying that they do in "democratic" USA. I do not wish to insult you nor hurt your feelings but i do wish you would get a good education.

As I said before, corruption in the US is done via the special interests groups and big businesses that influence policy and government with big money. Though, it's also natural that big business and wealthy individuals are going to have such influence. Money talks. Doesn't matter what kind of society. In the Soviet Union, you had a similar oligarch class, and you had heavy corruption with everyday things. People obviously couldn't choose their leader and the leaders didn't have to really worry about the approval rating of their constituency. Of course, another flaw of Soviet Economy is the power that government has in setting prices and pay which can lead to drastic results. If you studied elementary economics you will know the drastic consequences of curbing economic by arbitrary policy rather than market demand. In general when government tries to manipulate market forces overbearingly, it doesn't turn out well. Just look at how well the Giant Leap Forward turned out...of course, no system is flawless.

Personal insults is done by people who have no argument and need to somehow supplement their argument with unnecessary personal insults, as it will somehow make their points better. If you can't argue like a man without petty insults, then just don't argue.

[Mos]

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I am not personaly insulting you when i state that you have much to learn-its simply stating a fact which is backed up by multitude of posts you have made and continue to make. I teach economics for a college so no need to lecture me but you may wana take one of my classes. You keep proving that you do not know things in every post you make like in this one when you state that people didn't choose their leaders in the USSR thereby implying that they do in "democratic" USA. I do not wish to insult you nor hurt your feelings but i do wish you would get a good education.

Maybe you should stop making foolish assumptions as a start. If you are really in academia, you would know that foolish assumptions can really cost you. The leaders in the USA are chosen by a few million people in a a few swing states. In Soviet Union, there was no such choice. In some other Western countries, there's a more robust democratic system, with multiple parties and more voice to each individual. I have a decent education in mathematical sciences, but one thing I know about debate in academia is that it's done in a professional manner, without personal references or character assassinations. And when people resort to personal character assassinations, it shows more their unprofessional manner than anything else. And since you claim to be a professor in academia, I would expect better.

[londontsi]

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Maybe you should stop making foolish assumptions as a start. If you are really in academia, you would know that foolish assumptions can really cost you. The leaders in the USA are chosen by a few million people in a a few swing states. In Soviet Union, there was no such choice. In some other Western countries, there's a more robust democratic system, with multiple parties and more voice to each individual. I have a decent education in mathematical sciences, but one thing I know about debate in academia is that it's done in a professional manner, without personal references or character assassinations. And when people resort to personal character assassinations, it shows more their unprofessional manner than anything else. And since you claim to be a professor in academia, I would expect better.

[Haykakan]

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Hey Mos did you watch that video? Do you see now how "western Democracy" works? Or are you offended because you just learned yet another thing that conflicts with your perception of reality? Perhaps instead of being offended you can thank people for teaching you things you didnt know and make better posts in the future.

[Mos]

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Hey Mos did you watch that video? Do you see now how "western Democracy" works? Or are you offended because you just learned yet another thing that conflicts with your perception of reality? Perhaps instead of being offended you can thank people for teaching you things you didnt know and make better posts in the future.

So the computer systems being rigged? I'd need more evidence to believe that all such systems are rigged in the US. "Western Democracy" differs from place to place. In the US, that democracy is really what a few million people in a few swing states decide. In other places, there are different levers available. Rich people/big business (who have money) will have more influence obviously. But if you are suggesting, that all such election systems are rigged, you need some really conclusive evidence. Evidence which could be published in a journal for example.

[Haykakan]

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They have no need to rig anything yet since the two party (2 party only in name) monopoly is still going strong. Should any of the other parties gain momentum thats when riging and other xxxx will start. They are simply getting ready for a just in case scenario.

So the computer systems being rigged? I'd need more evidence to believe that all such systems are rigged in the US. "Western Democracy" differs from place to place. In the US, that democracy is really what a few million people in a few swing states decide. In other places, there are different levers available. Rich people/big business (who have money) will have more influence obviously. But if you are suggesting, that all such election systems are rigged, you need some really conclusive evidence. Evidence which could be published in a journal for example.

[Mos]

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They have no need to rig anything yet since the two party (2 party only in name) monopoly is still going strong. Should any of the other parties gain momentum thats when riging and other xxxx will start. They are simply getting ready for a just in case scenario.

well I agree the 2 party system does greatly impair a genuine democratic system. A more robust democracy would have multiple parties, with significant competition amongst them. That's not to say that the two parties in the US are quite similar in many aspects....