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  • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    The problem is nobody really knows for sure. There hasn't been any comprehensive report or analysis done on the overall expected economic effects of joining the Eurasian Union. There are some potential positives and negatives, but it is a an unknown overall. Armenia got strongarmed into the union and we can't really know until we have joined.

    I don't see a whole lot of positives from joining, specially now that the Russian economy is in real trouble. On the flip side, the European Union isn't looking much greener. Armenia wasn't going to be able to join for a long time anyway, and the EU has its own trouble. Ideally, a wait and see approach would have been the best imo, not diving into either one. That way you didn't tick of Russia, and just maybe Putin wouldn't have forced Armenia into the Eurasian Union. Which would have meant Armenia would have been able to make a better choice down the line, and perhaps have had more leverage against Russia. but it's a bit late for that.
    Its too bad. I see the Ra Ra Russia camp is going nuts, while Armenia is now going to be associated with brutal dictators like Lukashenko and Nazarbayev. I would like for Armenia to continue to at least resemble a healthy democracy, and not eventually lead to a dictatorship, due to all the foreign pressure.

    I do agree, playing neutral may have been a better choice, but then again Armenia doesnt have a choice. I also hope there are decent immigration and labor laws, that will at least help, demographically, some of the member states.

    I am also sick and tired of people claiming that Armenia is joining the 2nd Soviet Union with no communism lol.
    Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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    • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

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      One of the biggest danger I see in joining of Eurasian Union is the insistence of putting custom points between Armenia and Karabagh.
      I understand Armenia is resisting but not sure we will succeed.
      If that happens then Azerbaijan would be in a position that it never was in isolating Karabagh.

      I hope we can dillydally as long as we can till incompetent SS government is replaced.
      Cannot be sure of the outcome though.

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      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

        From what hard news is out there...
        We have joined "in principle" but not inked any hard and fast confirmed agreement.
        Several sticking points are apparent and tough negotiating is underway.
        True we are being pressured by Russia. We have enough wiggle room to dilly dally as Londonsti says and stick to our guns until favorable signing agreements are offered us.
        About the joke of the EU being more "democratic" than the Eurasian. Just that, a joke. What's happening in ukrain as only one example shows the unsavory and un democratic "modus operendi" of the west. There is more to the picture than some temporary financial gain (bait & switch) that EU or Eurasia is offering.
        We are not going to have a customs on the Artsahk border. Nursultan ain't running Armenia's show. We are negotiating for ourselves, not any of the turc entities, no matter how they stick together for each other.
        Nothing has been agreed to and negotiation continues.
        No doors have been slammed shut except the Artsahk custom crap and certain unbenificial parts of Eurasia treaty.
        We HAVE something of --- EXTREME --- value. Our geographical position and at least some sovereign to leverage.
        An extremely tough & difficult position. Nothing new there.
        HARK

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        • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

          Armenia Joins Eurasian Union


          Armenia's President Serzh Sarkisian sign an accession treaty with the Eurasian Economic Union in Minsk. Oct. 10, 2014.

          MINSK, Belarus (RFE/RL)—After months of delay, Armenia formally joined the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan on Friday, drawing praise from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
          President Serzh Sarkisian signed a corresponding accession treaty with Putin and Presidents Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan and Aleksandr Lukashenko of Belarus at a summit of the Russian-led bloc held in Minsk.
          The signing of the document, originally expected in May, was held up by the Kazakh and Belarusian leaders for apparently economic and geopolitical considerations. It was still not a forgone conclusion in the days leading up to the Minsk summit.
          Speaking at the gathering, both Putin and Sarkisian expressed hope that the treaty will be ratified by the parliaments of the EEU’s three member states by the end of this year. The Armenian president said his country should be able to “start working from January 1” as a full-fledged member of an alliance which critics fear will restore Russian hegemony over much of the former Soviet Union.
          Putin stressed the importance of Armenia’s accession to the EEU in his opening remarks at the summit posted on the Kremlin’s website. “In our view, Armenia is ready to operate in the Eurasian Economic Union on an equal footing with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan,” he said. “Within a relatively short period of time, since the autumn of 2013, our Armenian friends have … brought their national legislation into conformity with the norms of our integration structure.”
          “We hope to see positive macroeconomic effects as early as one or two years after Armenia’s accession,” continued Putin. He said membership in the EEU will give a further boost to Armenia’s trade with Russia and the two other ex-Soviet states. “The other key indicators — Gross Domestic Product, consumer demand, real incomes of the population and employment — should also improve,” he added.
          Sarkisian, his government and political allies have likewise asserted over the past year that EEU membership will speed up Armenia’s development by lowering the cost of Russian natural gas for its consumers and facilitating its manufacturers’ access to the vast Russian market. However, the authorities in Yerevan have stopped short of forecasting higher growth rates for the Armenian economy for the next few years.
          Economic growth in the country is on the contrary slowing down now primarily because of a fallout from Western economic sanctions that have been imposed on Russia in recent months. The International Monetary Fund said last week that Armenia’s GDP will likely increase, in real terms, by only 2.6 percent this year and 3.3 percent in 2015. The Armenian government came up with considerably higher growth projections in its most recent policy program approved by parliament in May.
          Entry into the EEU means that Armenia will have to replace its traditionally liberal trade regime with more protectionist policies pursued by the bloc’s three member states. The treaty signed in Minsk allows it to exempt more than 800 types of imported goods from much higher customs duties set by the EEU. Armenian officials say that these exemptions will prevent massive price hikes in the domestic market.
          Armenian critics of EEU membership argue, however, that Yerevan will enjoy the trading preferences for only several years and will eventually have to adopt the EEU barriers to trade with the rest of the world and the European Union in particular. They point out that Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan account between them for less than 25 percent of Armenia’s overall foreign trade.
          The Armenian government was poised to finalize a far-reaching free-trade deal with the EU when Sarkisian unexpectedly decided in August 2013 to make his country part of the Russian-led bloc. The deal fell through as a result of his U-turn widely attributed to strong Russian pressure.
          http://asbarez.com/127785/armenia-joins-eurasian-union/
          Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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          • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            .

            One of the biggest danger I see in joining of Eurasian Union is the insistence of putting custom points between Armenia and Karabagh.
            I understand Armenia is resisting but not sure we will succeed.
            If that happens then Azerbaijan would be in a position that it never was in isolating Karabagh.

            I hope we can dillydally as long as we can till incompetent SS government is replaced.
            Cannot be sure of the outcome though.

            .
            I don't think we have anything to worry about in terms of a barrier. This whole Eurasian Union deal is nothing but code for Russia forcing its will on semi-willing neighbors who are going along for various political and/or security reasons/threats. Whatever Kazakhstan or any other backward central asian country has to say couldn't matter less. At the end of the day everything will be done with the interest of Russia and Russia has nothing to gain from hurting Karabakh.

            I wouldn't mind seeing a better government in Armenia. However, better should not be mistaken with different. What alternative do we have in Armenia? Today's rally basically happened because Dodi Gago decided to join the opposition. It is laughable to me that the biggest thief oligarch is the one leading the "reform". How about you pay some taxes, and we would see a definite change in living conditions. And his coattails you have the incompetent power hungry LTP and good intentioned but ultimately ineffective Rafi.

            So I don't know, i would love to see a more effective government, someone capable of reigning in oligarchy and forcing a better tax system, but can we really believe anything that exists right now in the opposite would be an improvement on the people in charge?
            <<եթե զենք էլ չլինի' ես քարերով կկրվեմ>>

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            • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

              How about you pay some taxes, and we would see a definite change in living conditions.



              Oh, and so many Armenians eat it up at this point. When will they get their heads out of their asses, and stop calling for a new government with the guy who has that huge ass mansion in power.
              Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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              • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

                Originally posted by Chubs View Post



                Oh, and so many Armenians eat it up at this point. When will they get their heads out of their asses, and stop calling for a new government with the guy who has that huge ass mansion in power.
                lol it's so disgusting to watch this fat pig stand there and try to explain the suffering of the common man. In the list of traitors to the country he tops the list. But of course, he donates 5% of what he steals, what should be the people's outright, and all is forgiven.


                Dodi Gago's mansion for his little kid
                do you not think every last homeless person in Gyumri could have been given a house with that money
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagik_T...%27s_villa.JPG
                <<եթե զենք էլ չլինի' ես քարերով կկրվեմ>>

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                • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

                  "good intentioned but ultimately ineffective Rafi."
                  Working for a superpower mostly against the interests of your own people is "good intentioned"?
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

                    There are traitors everywhere....why are we like this, Country cannot effort this.
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • Re: Armenia's Economic Pulse

                      Originally posted by Mher View Post
                      lol it's so disgusting to watch this fat pig stand there and try to explain the suffering of the common man. In the list of traitors to the country he tops the list. But of course, he donates 5% of what he steals, what should be the people's outright, and all is forgiven.


                      Dodi Gago's mansion for his little kid
                      do you not think every last homeless person in Gyumri could have been given a house with that money
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagik_T...%27s_villa.JPG



                      Very inflated ego, easiest to be manipulated in the hands of a skilful manipulator.
                      He definitely has a bad dress sense also.

                      Looking beyond the social vulgarity of the project, architecturally the domes of the “hut” look very Mongol style.


                      Strap your seats he may be “our” next president !!


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                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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