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    Immigration/Armeniafication

    So i remember from world history that in the Arab empire that if you were a Muslim you payed less in taxes than everyone else, and that if you were a christian/xxx(demi people) you payed more than Muslims, but less than the non Muslims, christian, xxxs. This led to alot of Muslim converts and made Arab-ification an easier process. So do you think something like this in Armenia could work today, with the non armenian populations and future immigrants? Maybe if it was like, a tax deduction for Armenianizing your last name, require being fluent in armenian to be a citizen, tax deduction if your a citizen, a tax deduction if your a christian, maybe that's probably pushing to far but you get the general idea, i mean fine, if say the Kurds in Armenia stay muslim, but if they use armenian as a first language, and armenianize thier names and embrace the culture, they would basically become armenian, and then after enough time, some would convert to Christianity just to make life easier or b/c we actually got up and converted them. Thoughts...?
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    Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

    my thoughts are that we aren't Arabs trying to convert people to fit the model of our vast legacy. We're few in number and have a specific genetic background that gives us some kind of coherence for our race to function, why destroy that? We already have a monoethnic nation and people there already speak Armenian just fine and tend to have Armenian last names.

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      Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

      you want Kurds to be Armenian?

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        Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

        Originally posted by xcelr8Armo View Post
        you want Kurds to be Armenian?
        For whatever reason they seem to keep moving to Armenia when others tend to leave, why not armenianize them? If it leads to there being more armenians, why not? i don't mean all kurds, just the ones moving to Armenia.

        And as far as genetics are involved were not that far apart, we all have Greek, Persian, Roman/Byzantium, Arab, Mongolian, and Turkic, blood mixed in our veins, so we all have some similar backgrounds, so it's not like were mixing 2 different species or something

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          Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

          I'd feel unconfortable with a kurd Armenian...

          lets shoot them when they try to come

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            Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

            Originally posted by ara87 View Post
            Maybe if it was like, a tax deduction for Armenianizing your last name, require being fluent in armenian to be a citizen, tax deduction if your a citizen, a tax deduction if your a christian,
            I'm pretty sure it's already required.

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              Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

              To assume that all Armenians have mongol or arabic, or turkic blood is laughable. Just because we were conquered by these people does not mean the majority of our people have their blood in out veins.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

                Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                To assume that all Armenians have mongol or arabic, or turkic blood is laughable. Just because we were conquered by these people does not mean the majority of our people have their blood in out veins.
                I will have to respectfully disagree. To think that there are no traces of these peoples are not in our blood is equally laughable. If we all have the same blood, how come there is no such thing as a standard Armenian "look". There are Armenians who look more Arab, some who look more European, some who look more Persian etc. Yet they are all Armenian. Just look at a crowd of Hayastancis and you'll see what I mean. For example.

                Compare Levon (European):



                to this Armenian kyughatsi ("Anatolian"):



                I don't think we should go around claiming the Armenians are "racially pure" when in fact you can see this is not true by looking around you.

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                  Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

                  Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                  I will have to respectfully disagree. To think that there are no traces of these peoples are not in our blood is equally laughable. If we all have the same blood, how come there is no such thing as a standard Armenian "look". There are Armenians who look more Arab, some who look more European, some who look more Persian etc. Yet they are all Armenian. Just look at a crowd of Hayastancis and you'll see what I mean. For example.

                  Compare Levon (European):



                  to this Armenian kyughatsi ("Anatolian"):



                  I don't think we should go around claiming the Armenians are "racially pure" when in fact you can see this is not true by looking around you.


                  Did I claim anywhere in my post that Armenians didn't have non Armenian blood in them? NO! But I strongly disagree that Armenians are just a mix of the the peoples that conquered us, sure some Armenians may have more "non Armenian blood", and I am not against that, but to assume that there is no purity in Armenia is ABSURD. If you have not been to the Armenian countryside you will not know what I am talking about.

                  And it is not just Armenians that have a difference between themselves, the same is true with bulgarians, germans, russians and italians, etc.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    Re: Immigration/Armeniafication

                    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                    To assume that all Armenians have mongol or arabic, or turkic blood is laughable. Just because we were conquered by these people does not mean the majority of our people have their blood in out veins.
                    Even if Armenians didn't have any of that blood, Armenians have never been a homogeneous race genetically, no race has. And if you don't think any armenian has Mongolian/Turkic/Arab/etc. blood in them you just haven't met that many Armenians.

                    And as far as DNA differences go, the DNA difference between the whitest European and the blackest African is only about .02-.06% so as for a genetic differences go, you/we were never really that diff from any of the other races. If you were that different, say only about 2% you could be a chimpanzee. And looks have nothing to do with genetics (referring to that certain armenian look statement) Sub Saharan Africans and Europeans have more in common genetically, than sub Saharan Africans do with their look alike counterparts in australia.


                    ------Clarification-------------------------------------------------------
                    *genetics do play a role in looks, but you can look completely the oppisite of some one and be closer to them genetically than someone who looks just like you. so while looks have to do with genetics, when comparing how similar to sets of genes are looks don't matter
                    Last edited by ara87; 08-21-2008, 11:18 PM.

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