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    The great azeri leader with one of his daily speeches

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      Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      Hasn't that been done before in a film? Went something like a Serb and a Croat in the same abandoned trench in no-mans land.
      Yes it has in 2002. I believe it was called "No Mans Land". Saw it, not a bad movie. This new one will be awful and obviously unoriginal.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        Originally posted by retro View Post
        Aliyev can buy always a new wife at the market...
        But he must remember to leave the old wife out for recycling - she is not biodegradable since she contains a great deal of plastic and other toxic substances.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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          Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
          But he must remember to leave the old wife out for recycling - she is not biodegradable since she contains a great deal of plastic and other toxic substances.
          Nice!
          General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            Aliyev's wife is tipped to be next President of Azerbaijan.
            It may be a case of her buying a new husband.
            After another plastic surgery ofcoarse.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              Azeri hackers attack americancouncils.am
              January 15, 2011 - 15:51 AMT 11:51 GMT

              PanARMENIAN.Net - Azeri hackers attacked the website of American Councils for International Education’s office in Armenia (americancouncils.am). At present, Azeri flag and curse words are posted on the website.

              The American Councils for International Education: ACTR/ACCELS office in Armenia was established in 1996. In this short period the American Councils has implemented more than a dozen of programs in Armenia funded by the US Government providing over 1,200 high school and university students, educators, and faculty members with the opportunity to study, research and get professional training in the US schools.

              Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                Azeri hackers attack americancouncils.am
                January 15, 2011 - 15:51 AMT 11:51 GMT

                PanARMENIAN.Net - ........ In this short period the American Councils has implemented more than a dozen of programs in Armenia funded by the US Government providing over 1,200 high school and university students, educators, and faculty members with the opportunity to study, research and get professional training in the US schools.

                http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/it_telecom/news/59671/
                As frustrating as having websites attacked I would be more interested to know
                what percentage of those youth return to Armenia for the benefit of Hayrenik.

                Or is this a devious way to lure away the smartest and brightest of our nation.
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  What a stupid article, i seriously cant believe people think like this
                  Pogroms Of 13 January 1990 In Baku-What Is Armenia Silent About?
                  MONDAY, 17 JANUARY 2011 15:50
                  Like in previous years Armenians launched a special campaign on the January events of 1990.

                  As usual, this issue is viewed from the Armenian viewpoint, whose authors are low interested in whether their theses and facts meet the reality or not.

                  One of such materials became the ‘bitter work’ of Armenian expert Ivan Garibyan, who copy and pasted the main false clichés of Armenian agitation regarding the January events, adding some of his exclusive inventions and issuing his ‘wonder’-opus.

                  According to Garibyan, on 13 January 1990, after the ‘next meeting of national-fascist Popular Front of Azerbaijan, some thousands of brutal ‘people’ started to smash up the flats of aboriginal Armenian residents of the city… by the earlier prepared plan-by the lists of Armenian citizens hanged out in front of the head office of the Popular Front’. How did Garibyan know that there was a list of Armenian residents of Baku, which was hanged out in front of the Popular Front? Or did Garibyan, like Eduard Grigoryan (the main initiator and participant of the Sumgayir events in February 1988, who personally murdered and raped several Armenians) also take part in the January events in Baku and see the ‘list’ with his own eyes? Then Garibyan makes one more mistake, ‘forgetting’ to indicate that those whom he call ‘brutal people’ were mostly Azerbaijani refugees, forced to flee their homes in Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast in 1987-1989. On the eyes of these people Armenian nationals murdered their relatives, children, burnt down and buried people alive, cut their heads, locked them in chimneys.

                  One of those who survived and witnessed the deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia, Sanubar Sarally, spoke in details about what she saw in her book “The Stolen History: Genocide”.

                  “We tried to describe the mass murders of Azerbaijanis in Armenia, about cases of violence and vandalism. There are numerous facts of this kind. Here is one of them. Little children were locked in a chimney in Khamalli region. After the earthquake (On 7 December 1989-the Spitak earthquake-ed.) they were found by French rescuers, who left Armenia immediately after.

                  And it is interesting that the USSR General Prosecution knew about these atrocities. Answering the question from former resident, teacher of Noyemberyan resident Sharif Mansurov about 30 locked children, deputy general prosecutor of USSR, Andreyev said: “The number of Azerbaijani children was 23 not 30” As if the figure changes the point of inhumane cruelty of Armenian vandalism”, Sarally said.

                  In period of 1987-1989, about 200,000 Azerbaijanis, 18,000 Muslims Kurds, thousands of Russians were forcedly deported from Armenia. 255 Azerbaijanis were killed: two were beheaded, 11 were burnt alive, 3 were cut in pieces, 23 were run over, 41 were beaten to death, 19 went frozen in mountains, 8 went missing and so on. Also, 57 women were also killed alive along with 23 children who locked in chimneys alive.

                  Tens of thousands of residents in Azerbaijani villages of Armenia, in particular, Ararat region, run away to the Soviet-Turkish border in summer 1988 being unable to bear pogroms, murders and violence of Armenian nationalists and lived in the open air on the frontier Araz river for four months. Moreover, the Armenian leadership did not do anything to help this people, but as it became clear later, the attacks against Azerbaijani villages were headed not only by the leaders of the region, but also by some responsible officials of the country, in particular, former deputy chairman of the Council of Ministers Arutyunyan, chairman of the Masis regional executive committee Gevorkyan and head of the regional department of interior affairs Iskandaryan.

                  In November-December 1989, the Armenian SSR widely marked the deportation of last Azerbaijanis, organized and conducted with direct participation of the party leadership of the republic under the slogan “Armenia without Turks”. The mass deportation of Azerbaijan was organized by first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Armenia Suren Arutyunyan. This was the Dashnak, who organized student manifestations in Yerevan in 1965 in connection with the 50th anniversary of Armenian genocide.

                  On 4 November 1988 at the meeting in Yerevan one of the activists of the Karabakh committee Rafael Kazaryan (currently, academician of the Academy of Science of Armenia) openly urged ‘to ensure emigration by the help of divisions, created in advance. ‘For the first time through these decades we have a unique opportunity to clean Armenia from these Turks. I think this is the biggest achievement of our struggle through these ten months”, Kazaryan told a meeting with participation of representatives of the party leadership and law enforcement bodies of Armenia (‘Armenia: twenty months of struggle’. Collection of documents. Samizdat. Yerevan, 1989, p.15).

                  In this connection, there was even the resolution of the Central Committee of the Communist Party and USSR Ministers Council of 6 December 1988, according to which it was ordered to punish ‘separate officials of local party, Soviet and economic bodies’. However, this regulation was fully ignored in Armenia and no one was punished, especially, that the union center did not control the situation. That is the Armenian leadership forced 200,000 Azerbaijanis to leave the country under support and silence of the union leadership by the end of 1989.

                  At least Armenian agitation campaign and its ‘servants’ like Ivan Garibyan must recognize the indicated facts of the forced deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and then NKAO and that they involved the leadership of the Armenian SSR. Only after this Armenian side recognizes all this, it will have a right to judge about the reasons and implications of January events in Baku. However, Garibyan and his pals have the order from ‘above’ to continue misleading about ‘Armenian pogroms’ forgetting the murder of about 255 Azerbaijanis from infants to elderly people throughout Armenia.

                  But if the Armenian agitation wishes to turn a blind eye on this issue, this does not mean the world community does not know about the real causes of the Armenian-Azerbaijani confrontation and January events of 1990 in Baku. Anyway, the Azerbaijani side will further take all efforts to respond to the authors of the lie in Armenian mass media.

                  1news.az

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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                    What a stupid article, i seriously cant believe people think like this
                    Pogroms Of 13 January 1990 In Baku-What Is Armenia Silent About?
                    MONDAY, 17 JANUARY 2011 15:50
                    Like in previous years Armenians launched a special campaign on the January events of 1990.

                    As usual, this issue is viewed from the Armenian viewpoint, whose authors are low interested in whether their theses and facts meet the reality or not.

                    One of such materials became the ‘bitter work’ of Armenian expert Ivan Garibyan, who copy and pasted the main false clichés of Armenian agitation regarding the January events, adding some of his exclusive inventions and issuing his ‘wonder’-opus.

                    According to Garibyan, on 13 January 1990, after the ‘next meeting of national-fascist Popular Front of Azerbaijan, some thousands of brutal ‘people’ started to smash up the flats of aboriginal Armenian residents of the city… by the earlier prepared plan-by the lists of Armenian citizens hanged out in front of the head office of the Popular Front’. How did Garibyan know that there was a list of Armenian residents of Baku, which was hanged out in front of the Popular Front? Or did Garibyan, like Eduard Grigoryan (the main initiator and participant of the Sumgayir events in February 1988, who personally murdered and raped several Armenians) also take part in the January events in Baku and see the ‘list’ with his own eyes? Then Garibyan makes one more mistake, ‘forgetting’ to indicate that those whom he call ‘brutal people’ were mostly Azerbaijani refugees, forced to flee their homes in Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast in 1987-1989. On the eyes of these people Armenian nationals murdered their relatives, children, burnt down and buried people alive, cut their heads, locked them in chimneys.

                    One of those who survived and witnessed the deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia, Sanubar Sarally, spoke in details about what she saw in her book “The Stolen History: Genocide”.

                    “We tried to describe the mass murders of Azerbaijanis in Armenia, about cases of violence and vandalism. There are numerous facts of this kind. Here is one of them. Little children were locked in a chimney in Khamalli region. After the earthquake (On 7 December 1989-the Spitak earthquake-ed.) they were found by French rescuers, who left Armenia immediately after.

                    And it is interesting that the USSR General Prosecution knew about these atrocities. Answering the question from former resident, teacher of Noyemberyan resident Sharif Mansurov about 30 locked children, deputy general prosecutor of USSR, Andreyev said: “The number of Azerbaijani children was 23 not 30” As if the figure changes the point of inhumane cruelty of Armenian vandalism”, Sarally said.

                    In period of 1987-1989, about 200,000 Azerbaijanis, 18,000 Muslims Kurds, thousands of Russians were forcedly deported from Armenia. 255 Azerbaijanis were killed: two were beheaded, 11 were burnt alive, 3 were cut in pieces, 23 were run over, 41 were beaten to death, 19 went frozen in mountains, 8 went missing and so on. Also, 57 women were also killed alive along with 23 children who locked in chimneys alive.

                    Tens of thousands of residents in Azerbaijani villages of Armenia, in particular, Ararat region, run away to the Soviet-Turkish border in summer 1988 being unable to bear pogroms, murders and violence of Armenian nationalists and lived in the open air on the frontier Araz river for four months. Moreover, the Armenian leadership did not do anything to help this people, but as it became clear later, the attacks against Azerbaijani villages were headed not only by the leaders of the region, but also by some responsible officials of the country, in particular, former deputy chairman of the Council of Ministers Arutyunyan, chairman of the Masis regional executive committee Gevorkyan and head of the regional department of interior affairs Iskandaryan.

                    In November-December 1989, the Armenian SSR widely marked the deportation of last Azerbaijanis, organized and conducted with direct participation of the party leadership of the republic under the slogan “Armenia without Turks”. The mass deportation of Azerbaijan was organized by first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Armenia Suren Arutyunyan. This was the Dashnak, who organized student manifestations in Yerevan in 1965 in connection with the 50th anniversary of Armenian genocide.

                    On 4 November 1988 at the meeting in Yerevan one of the activists of the Karabakh committee Rafael Kazaryan (currently, academician of the Academy of Science of Armenia) openly urged ‘to ensure emigration by the help of divisions, created in advance. ‘For the first time through these decades we have a unique opportunity to clean Armenia from these Turks. I think this is the biggest achievement of our struggle through these ten months”, Kazaryan told a meeting with participation of representatives of the party leadership and law enforcement bodies of Armenia (‘Armenia: twenty months of struggle’. Collection of documents. Samizdat. Yerevan, 1989, p.15).

                    In this connection, there was even the resolution of the Central Committee of the Communist Party and USSR Ministers Council of 6 December 1988, according to which it was ordered to punish ‘separate officials of local party, Soviet and economic bodies’. However, this regulation was fully ignored in Armenia and no one was punished, especially, that the union center did not control the situation. That is the Armenian leadership forced 200,000 Azerbaijanis to leave the country under support and silence of the union leadership by the end of 1989.

                    At least Armenian agitation campaign and its ‘servants’ like Ivan Garibyan must recognize the indicated facts of the forced deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia and then NKAO and that they involved the leadership of the Armenian SSR. Only after this Armenian side recognizes all this, it will have a right to judge about the reasons and implications of January events in Baku. However, Garibyan and his pals have the order from ‘above’ to continue misleading about ‘Armenian pogroms’ forgetting the murder of about 255 Azerbaijanis from infants to elderly people throughout Armenia.

                    But if the Armenian agitation wishes to turn a blind eye on this issue, this does not mean the world community does not know about the real causes of the Armenian-Azerbaijani confrontation and January events of 1990 in Baku. Anyway, the Azerbaijani side will further take all efforts to respond to the authors of the lie in Armenian mass media.

                    1news.az
                    Such a BS the source that they are using doesn't even exist not so surprising to be honest.

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                      Graves of Heydar Aliyev
                      I'll be frank: I've been thinking over whether to publish an article on this subject? Not because, of course, that did not want to hurt feelings, Ilham Aliyev and evil memory of Heydar Aliyev, just the feelings of these people to me completely indifferent. I stopped reluctance to reopen the wounds of mothers and wives, children, those young men that being forcibly sent from Azerbaijan to the Armenian mountains Artsakh forever remain nameless in mass graves. Even more I do not want to awaken painful memories for those parents of indigenous peoples of Azerbaijan, the young and innocent children are sacrificed to Moloch Turkic interests of the Azerbaijani leadership.

                      Write about it seriously, but not write - a crime. Crime, because today in Azerbaijan more updated theme "of revenge", is increasingly distributed war cries deserters again ready, staying safe Baku offices, send young people to slaughter in Karabakh. Crime because the current president of Azerbaijan inherited, like his late father, wants to silence the voice of protest against his tyranny in Azerbaijan, the new blood in Artsakh. Crime because silence on war crimes Heydar Aliyev panders new crimes of his son.
                      In November 1991, I had to dig the frozen ground in the television relay antenna Hadrut. It was after superbly organized military operation, in which our troops freed three Armenian villages and mountain, on top of which was built was turned into a fortress of the Azerbaijani OMON relay station. In that fight, the Azeri OMON surrendered our guys have left us their weapons and were expelled from Karabakh under the supervision of the military commandant of the Special Region. They were so pleased with his miraculous escape, he did not even remember the fallen colleague, leaving us to care for the seven cadavers. We had to bury the people who sent in Artsakh to kill our loved ones.

                      Subsequently, similar stories were repeated many times. Our guys have had to bury abandoned Azerbaijani soldier dead comrades. For two or three corpses, and later on by tens and even hundreds. Some Azerbaijani Asker "lucky", they were buried is not ostyvshimi, but often had to dig into the ground already decomposed corpses. And although they say that the corpse of an enemy always smells good, we must admit that the spectacle is difficult.

                      Nevertheless, the harsh realities of war, as well as elementary care of the health status of the territory of the fighting, were forced to ignore the feelings and do the heavy work. I remember the bitter joke mate: "Not only to destroy them at risk for life, then another, and burying a risk to health." In these words, this warrior and a man reflects the truth of the last war. In autumn 1992 the Commission for External Relations of the NKR Parliament, even appealed to the Azerbaijani side to conclude a short-term cease-fire agreement in order to be able to bury hundreds of corpses of the attackers Askerov. There was no reply - Azerbaijan took this appeal as a request for a respite - and bury the corpses of these new and had about a month later.

                      For complete information hold the cursor over the blue and green dots.
                      (For the map visit the link http://translate.googleusercontent.c...ubD2p_FhcZSw2g)

                      However, since coming to power in Azerbaijan, Heydar Aliyev, much has changed. The Azerbaijani side suddenly began to bury their own dead Askerov, of course, those that remained behind the front lines. Warriors of the NKR Defense Army watched in amazement at how fitting out of the depths of Azerbaijan to the front bulldozers and excavators dug huge pits, which are dumped in a bucket dredge collected corpses own Askerov.


                      In my personal files are stored some lists of destroyed Azerbaijani soldier found dead at their same commanders. Again, I've been thinking whether to publish them. Which is better: a sweet lie Azerbaijani politicians, who claim that they did not know the fate of "missing" Azerbaijani Askerov, or a bitter tragic truth? Apparently, the truth is still better. For the president of Azerbaijan, in spite of all the canons of Islam "peredvinuvshy" hundreds of corpses Azerbaijani Askerov the Alley of Martyrs for the pompous funeral of their parents, today once again preparing to send to certain death hundreds of thousands of young people in Azerbaijan. I really hope that the specified in the report Private Mustafayev TA, who asked not to participate in a crime of Azerbaijan and "willfully left a military unit, escaped prosecution and now lives with his family.

                      During Azerbaijan's aggression against NKR Razmik, a young soldier - a volunteer, asked me in perplexity: "Do Azerbaijanis religion forbids touching the corpses of what they collect and bury their dead with shovels?". Razmik did not realize that a funeral Azerbaijani team uses a technique for collecting dead bodies for their own safety, because the very idea to shoot at those who collect the dead bodies of fellow soldiers, would have seemed to him blasphemous. And my answer to that mass graves Azerbaijan hide from their own populations enormous losses in the armed forces, and that in fact Islam, like Christianity, forbids burying people without bathing Razmik somehow confused replied: "How so? After all, even Satan would not do so with his soldiers. " It was, if I remember correctly, in September 1993. But it was only the beginning of the plan of Heydar Aliyev to conceal the bodies.



                      Work "funeral team" Azerbaijan has a special swing from the end of December 1993, the beginning of the next (and last) of a military adventure of Heydar Aliyev - attempts to capture the power of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic. Since 21 December, Azerbaijan has made the most massive and reckless assault, which lasted until mid-April 1994. The most conservative estimate for this period, Azerbaijan lost only killed up to 22 thousand Askerov. But how many mothers could mourn their sons? How Azerbaijani children killed Askerov have the opportunity to visit the graves of their fathers?

                      The proposed map is absolutely accurate, but, and this quite naturally, is far from complete, because not all of the massive "funeral" to see the Armenian fighters, not always they have been able to count the number of dumped into pits dead Askerov. And our editorial staff could hardly clarify the location of mass graves. Heydar Aliyev in panic afraid to show the population of Azerbaijan the true number of deaths attributable to him young children, and that his fear of public anger forced him to give orders to dig a new "common graves". This crime was not due to "the harsh truth of the war, and the desire to retain power at any cost, even if the price - thousands and thousands of lives, tears and inconsolable grief of mothers and widows, orphaned children.



                      On the map indicate the sites of mass graves around (1600) one thousand six hundred Azerbaijani Askerov. Young men, many of which still await their homes. In this case, we have not considered dead in Karvacharskom (Kelbajar) region, which, according to the former head of the press center of the Ministry of Defence of Azerbaijan Leyla Yunus, killing over five thousand Azerbaijanis. According to our data, in the mountains Karvachar killed more than 5500 Azerbaijani Askerov, but they were not included in our list of simple and tragic reason: Their corpses remained under the rubble of stones and snow.

                      Today, the son of Heydar Aliyev, is preparing to go in the footsteps of his father. I have no doubt: the result of a new military aggression against the Republic of Azerbaijan, Artsakh will be exactly the same as last time. However, a new military adventure in Azerbaijan will be the cause of new colossal casualties, both among the Armenian and Azerbaijani people. If in 1991-94, Azerbaijan lost only 37,000 troops were killed, then another war, given the fact that the Armenian government and Azerbaijan over the years strongly armed, will lead to the death of a much larger number of young people. In this case, I'm sure the new aggression of Azerbaijan would cast doubt on the existence of the Republic of Azerbaijan.

                      Meanwhile, speaking of bellicose statements, Ilham Aliyev has spent on grandiose monument to his parents at the Alley of Martyrs in Baku more funds than on social assistance to refugees in all 18 years combined.

                      Ilham Aliyev spent on monuments to Heydar Aliyev in Azerbaijan and in many countries around the world means more than 18 years in total have family killed in Karabakh, Azerbaijani Askerov.

                      Ilham Aliyev has spent on the construction of scattered throughout the museums of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev's more money than 18 years received in the amount of people with disabilities and members of the Karabakh war.

                      Azerbaijan has built countless monuments "national leader" Heydar Aliyev. It seems to me necessary to build another, at least, eleven sites - on the ground "mass graves" near the border with Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

                      In Azerbaijan, many of the streets, avenues, parks, squares, palaces, businesses, ships, towns, named after Heydar Aliyev. There can be no doubt: the best place for the perpetuation of the Heydar Aliyev are hidden "mass graves" near the border with Nagorno-Karabakh.

                      Mass graves of Heydar Aliyev. As a warning to all those persons in Azerbaijan that the dream of a new war.

                      Levon Melik-Shahnazaryan

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