Armenia and the information war

[Serjik]

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You are smart bro. I understand what your saying being allies but I am still worried. What if Turks make a deal with Russians and promise them everything for exchanging of Karabagh. Maybe this is very unlikely but it has happened in the past no? But after all Russia is our closest and you make a good point about Armenians working for Armenia from in the Kremlin. Let's hope this happens because we have a lot of our brothers and sisters living i Russia and many of them are very rich and powerful. I learned one thing in the last few years is that we cant trust America or Europe.

[bell-the-cat]

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These people are hilarious. I was browsing through Armenia on Google Earth looking at the Panoramio images and came across this guy:

http://www.panoramio.com/user/4719435?comment_page=1&photo_page=1

He's dedicated his entire account to posting photos of Armenia in Armenia and calling them Azeri names and saying they're in Azerbaijan. It's giggle worthy.

You find just as many giggle-worthy Armenians doing the same things, but for places in Turkey. The Armenians usually add long rant-like statements to accompany the pictures.

None of these armchair warriors, be they Azeri or Armenian, have ever got out of their sweaty armchairs to actually take any of the pictures they use. They are almost always stolen from other sources. Simply identify the sources and report the images to Google. The images will then be taken down (eventually). However, let this be a warning that you must NEVER release a photo into the public domain using Wikipedia commons - you then have no control over its later usage and, for example, risk your photo of a khachkar being used on an Azeri propaganda site as an example of an "Albanian cross-stone".

[bell-the-cat]

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They are almost always stolen from other sources.

And sometimes the thief doesn't even travel far to get the image!

The original:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/21476577

The stolen image given a new fake caption:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/38073555

[Federate]

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You find just as many giggle-worthy Armenians doing the same things, but for places in Turkey. The Armenians usually add long rant-like statements to accompany the pictures.

The difference is that the monuments and places in Turkey once had a historical Armenian name/background so it is not really inaccurate. It is like historic Armenian names of cities such as Kars or Erzerum having their Armenian equivalents being included on their respective Wikipedia articles.

Thanks for the tip on releasing pictures into the public domain.

[Federate]

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And sometimes the thief doesn't even travel far to get the image!

The original:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/21476577

The stolen image given a new fake caption:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/38073555

Where can we report a copyright violation? I could only find the report for inappropriate or offensive.

[ninetoyadome]

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Baku accuses Sarksyan of being warmonger

22 July 2011, Friday / ABDULLAH xxxKURT, BAKU


The Armenian government is trying to incite a war with Azerbaijan to avoid internal political and economic problems, a senior Azerbaijani diplomat in Baku has said. Araz Azimov, the deputy foreign minister of Azerbaijan, told a group of Turkish reporters on Friday that the government in Yerevan is looking to start an armed conflict with Azerbaijan in order to consolidate its power at home and distract attention away from increasingly unbearable economic hardship.

“[Armenian President Serzh] Sarksyan is under tremendous pressure from the opposition in his country. The economy is performing terribly. The diaspora is not happy with him. If he succeeds in provoking a conflict with us, he will secure aid from abroad and crush the opposition inside as people will gather around his cause,” he explained. The incidents along the cease-fire line should be interpreted with this in mind, Azimov underlined.

Just last week, a 13-year-old girl was killed by a toy with a built-in explosive that had allegedly been floated down the river by an Armenian. The girl’s mother was seriously injured as well. Similar incidents have happened in the past, Azimov said, all aimed to cause unrest amongst the people in Azerbaijan hoping that there would be widespread clashes along the disputed borders.

An Azerbaijani diplomat warned, however, that the repercussions of a new war would have dire consequences for Armenia. “We are prepared for any eventualities and have beefed up our army,” he said, adding that the army is more than capable of preventing any aggression from Armenia. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that during Armed Forces Day celebrations last month, “Azerbaijan fulfilled the task that I set, which was that Azerbaijan’s military expenditure must exceed the entire state budget of Armenia,” noting that defense spending in the oil-rich country had reached $3.3 billion this year.

When asked what the game plan was for Azerbaijan if the crisis turned into war, the veteran diplomat said, “Then everything will change.” Stating that he himself had experienced war when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, Azimov said Azerbaijani forces would likely conduct a mop-up operation in the Azerbaijani territories currently under illegal Armenian occupation.

“International law allows us to send an army to fight anti-terror operations on our own lands. You can say that the Armenian forces are behaving like a terrorist group, killing innocent people on Azerbaijani soil,” he explained. He vowed that Azerbaijani forces would sweep any elements of terror away from its own territory.

Armenia is buying time

Azimov has been closely involved throughout the 18 years of negotiations with Armenia under the so called Minsk process created by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

“We had ups and downs during that period. But it has become increasingly clear that Yerevan is not interested in finding a solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh issue at all. Sarksyan has backtracked from earlier compromises we had brokered with Armenia especially during the 2004-2007 period. Last year, he rejected the Madrid II principles proposed by the Minsk group in Athens in 2009. He refused to discuss the details of the Laçin corridor linking Azerbaijan to the autonomous Nakhchivan Republic via Armenian territory. Now in a reversal from his predecessor’s position, Sarksyan is saying internally displaced Azerbaijanis can not return to their homes before the final status of Karabakh is finalized,” Azimov explained.

As for the status of Nagorno-Karabakh, the Azerbaijani diplomat expressed that there might be different formulas for the internal self-determination or self-governance within the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. “But we need to withdraw forces from this region, allow displaced people to return to their homes and invest in the economy. Once we create the right conditions on the ground, we will agree to whatever decision the residents of Nagorno-Karabakh make in the referendum” he said.

The frustrated diplomat warned that Azerbaijan’s patience is wearing thin towards the protracted negotiations that have no end in sight. “There is nothing concrete on the table,” he lamented. Stressing that both countries need to move beyond discussing the basic principles of an action pan on the ground, the Azerbaijani diplomat noted there should be a “deadline” for the negotiations.

“We have discussed principles for so long but it has not produced any result. Now we need to talk about the substance,” he said, adding that the parties should come to an agreement on that within a year.

Lambasting Russia and Iran

Deputy Foreign Minister Azimov did not hide his strong disapproval of Russian and Iranian assistance to Armenia, two countries that have provided a lifeline to Armenia’s beleaguered economy. “Russia has control of 70 percent of the Armenian economy. The border has been protected by Russian soldiers. They provide assistance to Armenian forces as well,” he said.

As for the Iran, Azimov said the Azerbaijani government does not approve the cozy relations Iran has established with its arch-enemy, Armenia. “We have told them this on many occasions. Iran has over 40 agreements with Armenia and providing gas, oil and other critical supplies to the country. They do that despite the betrayal of Armenia over the Iranian initiative back in 1992,” he said. Azimov was referring to the May 1992 meeting in Tehran during which both Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders signed a memorandum of understanding for the cessation of hostilities as proposed by the Iranian leadership at the time. Right after that, Armenia attacked more Azerbaijani territory, breaking the agreement.

“If Iran closes its border with Armenia just like Turkey does, Yerevan may be pushed back to a position to end the occupation of Azerbaijani territory,” he said. Azimov hinted that the relations with the US and Israel, the pipeline politics and problems in the Caspian energy resources may have a role to play in Iran’s involvement with Armenia. “Iran wants to show that it is a regional power to be reckoned with. But we are not comfortable with their policy vis-à-vis Armenia,” he noted.

[ninetoyadome]

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Apparently azeris pissed off Google with there complaints about Google maps. Google in return put the Armenian versions of the names instead of both and i dont know how accurate this is but Google threatened to remove azerbaijan from the map if they dont stop sending complaint letters.

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We want to take away the glory of cleaners Earth
The company made a gross error Locations Loading associated with Azerbaijan. This stencil heading almost daily basis can be found in the Azerbaijani media. This is followed by tearful story that "company" "grossly distorted the name" song, dance, card, etc. Ends with a mandatory call to fill the company letter of protest, to demand the "correct a mistake." "The protest letter," your language is attached. Do not bother, the guardian of the Azerbaijani statehood and a patriot, you can only write his name and click on «send». And then - what child would not teshilos - proudly report in the comments: "Send. Duty to the fatherland is made. "
No, I have many things in this life understand that. But to explain this masturbation before the monitor can not afford even to me. Including that, the order of a new idea seized the center of the widest strata of Azerbaijani society. And, most importantly, why? Can Azeri-massoviki Swindlers seriously believe that the travel agency, for example, will refuse to tour the blessed land of Artsakh just because a few hundred or thousands of pimply minor from Baku to poke a finger on unwashed helpfully suggested by the key.
I remember that one of these "hits" , seized upon by a crowd of other Azerbaijani website, initially turned full satisfaction and joyful screams of voluptuous , and ended with a fiasco impotent haramnyh geese . That's just about to say Voskanapat that "we have made a gross error associated with Azerbaijan," do not get even the most faithful, in other words, highly deazgopov - leaders of Azerbaijan's state propaganda. Pogavkat - yes, always please, in this they are unsurpassed masters, especially at a safe distance. But at the same time know that bark at the moon, because Voskanapat never writes anything but the truth.
Why rush to deazgopy less informed. There is already possible to replace the arguments with thousands of letters, in the hope that a distant company, "a gross mistake" will not stand in front of a paper flow tearful appeals. It happens that the company does not stand up and fix the "error", especially if the company's financial interest in Azerbaijan. In such cases, the detachment of virtual characters in Azerbaijan is divided into ambitious individuals. As the saying goes, every Mamed own victory. Everyone gets a moment Ibragimov.
And I was so interested in how the Caucasian Turks correcting a "mistake" by classmates Ilham MGIMO stubbornly Sultanzadeh who called with an outstanding shnobelem Ilya. I mean times when Gesha, sorry, Heydar, was a member. Politburo, of course, do not think too much and then be ashamed of. That's when he ceased to be a member, though sluggish, then yes, then Ilyusha could call me a pot, but put in the oven. And before that? Why not perturbed Azerbaijan MGIMO Rector threw nine million hate mail? Was it only now grown little minds? Or a coward as usual? And Gorbachev, regularly ridiculing Azherbaklazhan word, no letters are not assailed. Even Judd from fat melted genital wolf in him, no one brought. To tell the truth, if none of the Caucasian Turks do not have the courage to not pull up that, but even to whisper to his wife in the kitchen hidden words about the "gross error".
Now, when signing the "letter of protest" virtual characters and wrestlers of Azerbaijan is easy to hide in the Internet space, in this country a very long queue formed characters signers who ventured out there "to prevent a grave error" in relation to the heroic Azerbaijan? Oh, the company Google? Immediately paralyze boors millions of emails. Scatter, bury, and then pull out and eat. Benefit, Google is God knows where.
And the commotion. Baku. More precisely, the province went to sign a written literate deazgopom of Deyaza . It turned out that this same Google sneeze like the letters of their signatories, and author. We very frank in Azerbaijan, too. It turns out (who knew?) That he has, in Google, business is based not on oil. And it became clear that the leadership of Google does not like to get signed letters from the same script.
To be frank, we got embarrassing. The province says, and Google coughs in response to the new "gross errors associated with Azerbaijan." More precisely, the Republic of Artsakh, Azerbaijan in the geography of the signers, as well as in the book of letters, not really. That is absolutely zero. Without any signs of sticks. The result was the following picture: Google maps, which was initially dubbed the Republic of Artsakh Armenian Turkic toponyms "analogs", after the first million letters fundamentally and logically refused Turkic distortions.
Army signers of the Caucasian Turks sent a couple of millions of identical letters, and then Google maps has increased the number of Armenian ancestral names of settlements of Artsakh. In particular, Agdam was thrown out as useless and replaced by historical Akna, and returned to the hallowed Lachin Berdzor. Then the signers gathered its forces, and sent millions more tearful messages. Google maps again did not go in debt, and now have Armenian names on the map tiny settlements of the Republic of Artsakh, and even road signs for them.
Province sighed heavily and went to collect on Russian markets nine million signatures on a letter asking to "return" invented names in Baku Turk Artsakh names. Logical outcome: according to sources Voskanapat, Google is seriously considering a project in Azerbaijan erase from the map. In this regard, Voskanapat addressed with a brief request to the world famous company.
Dear friends! We kindly ask you not to wash Azerbaijan to the ground. This - our task. Do not try to rob us of the glory of cleaner planet Earth.
However, Voskanapat.info asks his readers not to accede to this letter. We already know that Google employees do not like the millions of signatories. There may be offended, and do the opposite, that is to throw Azerbaijan outside the globe. And we're not used to someone else's hands to pull out of the fire Caucasian Turks.

Sagatel BAKVESHINYAN

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://voskanapat.info/news/u_nas_khotjat_otnjat_slavu_chistilshhikov_planety_zemlja/2011-07-22-1564&usg=ALkJrhi1DT95Zhh86vwXGmhrYScIIGSYLg

[bell-the-cat]

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Where can we report a copyright violation? I could only find the report for inappropriate or offensive.

Google makes it deliberately difficult to initiate the process for removing images for copyright reasons. You use this form and need to do one for each image you want removed: http://www.google.com/support/bin/re...duct=panoramio To remove them for copyright reasons you should be the actual copyright holder or be acting on his/her behalf, however, since google cannot know if you are not the copyright holder, you can probably get away with lying about that bit. But for the images that have been taken from other Panoramio users, it would be easiest just to report the theft to them and let them report it (I've just sent a message to the George Narimanian account holder telling him about the misuse). For the report, what you need is the url of a webpage that has the same image on it, to prove that the image thief does not actually own the copyright he has stated he owns. Since you must own the copyright of an image to upload it to google earth or Panoramio, Google will then remove the image. From experience it takes about 1 week to 3 weeks for them to do it.

For removing inaccurate or false images I think you just have to report them through the "flag photo" option, but I expect Google takes ages to review such photos.

[bell-the-cat]

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The difference is that the monuments and places in Turkey once had a historical Armenian name/background so it is not really inaccurate. It is like historic Armenian names of cities such as Kars or Erzerum having their Armenian equivalents being included on their respective Wikipedia articles.

Agreed, but the cases I'm thinking have been more extreme than that. It would be inaccurate for the purposes of Google Earth if they were on Google Earth and labeled as being located in "Western Armenia", without even a mention of their actual location being in Turkey. And any accompanying text should be limited to neutral, accurate, on-topic information, and not contain a frenzied statement against Turkey or a political manifesto about the reconquest of lost territories.

[Mher]

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Baku accuses Sarksyan of being warmonger

22 July 2011, Friday / ABDULLAH xxxKURT, BAKU


The Armenian government is trying to incite a war with Azerbaijan to avoid internal political and economic problems. the government in Yerevan is looking to start an armed conflict with Azerbaijan in order to consolidate its power at home and distract attention away from increasingly unbearable economic hardship.

lol wow the hypocrisy