Armenia and the information war

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

When I was in Armenia my family invited a young man that worked in the finance ministry to our house. After a few shots of vodka he spilled the beans. LOL He said they are borrowing as much as they can to build infrastructur and line pockets because they are knowing that in a few years the whole thing is going to fall apart and Armenia is going to join the Russian ruble zone and free itself from the western debt. The loans get paid back by those under Western rule. Armenia is not under them. These guys in Yerevan are not straight arrows but they know what they are doing. Trust me bro.

You mean the Russian customs union? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customs...tan_and_Russia)

The PM said though we wouldn't join it because we don't share border with Russia. Though I honestly hope we don't join any union, and keep the Armenian dram.

[londontsi]

Re: Armenia and the information war

When I was in Armenia my family invited a young man that worked in the finance ministry to our house. After a few shots of vodka he spilled the beans. LOL He said they are borrowing as much as they can to build infrastructur and line pockets because they are knowing that in a few years the whole thing is going to fall apart and Armenia is going to join the Russian ruble zone and free itself from the western debt. The loans get paid back by those under Western rule. Armenia is not under them. These guys in Yerevan are not straight arrows but they know what they are doing. Trust me bro.

I am shocked how light heartedly you seem to take it.

For a starters when you join an “economic block” you do not become better or safer economically.
Your debts do not disappear either.
You cannot hide either.

Look at EU members Greece, Italy and Spain are good examples.

Look at poor Greece which has become an economic slave of its bankers.

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[Serjik]

Re: Armenia and the information war

I always take things lightly. Bro America is toast. They realize it and they are taking advantage of the situation until the time comes when they will cut their ties with America and totally join Russia. What they going to do put sactions on Armenia? No way bro. Wont work in the Kavkas. Bro Armenia is in no situation to be independent. Thats the problem with you diasporans you speak in very high eutopian terms without seeing what you are dealing with on the ground. Bro poor Armenia has no resources and its landlocked by enemies, Armenians needs to be in an economic block and the only natural one for it is Russian and Chinese led ones. Yeah bro look at Greece, Europe and America are raping it. Greeks are Armenia's closest natural allies and orthodox brothers. Their place is also with us and Russia. Maybe now they will wake up.

I am shocked how light heartedly you seem to take it.

For a starters when you join an “economic block” you do not become better or safer economically.
Your debts do not disappear either.
You cannot hide either.

Look at EU members Greece, Italy and Spain are good examples.

Look at poor Greece which has become an economic slave of its bankers.

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[londontsi]

Re: Armenia and the information war

While some of the money gets wasted (embezzled which is totally natural it even happens in London),......

Embezzlement is not natural.
It is a serious crime with serious punishment and loss of reputation.

I cannot claim that it does not happen in England or any other developed country.
I have no doubt some may get away with it.

However the majority of cases would be found out because there are processes and procedures, checks and balances and also a transparent system.
Also there are enough honest people in the system to be a deterrent to the would be crooks.

I don't see the loans being used unwisely in Armenia.....

How do you see this.
Do you know how the nearly $3 Billion was used.

The expected return is very low. So don't worry too much bro.

How low?
Every single dollar borrowed has "very low return".

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Sarkozy in Armenia - French/Armenian relations seem to be very warm...

[Serjik]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Embezzlement is natural and human and it also the same with corruption. When millions of dollars are in front of you and you are making a few hundred dollars and you have a family with children you will take some out of the pile of money in front of you. A cop making a hundred dollars a month will take money from car drivers to feed his family and pay for the increasing price of food and gas. I pretty sure if you are in the position you will also do it. Not doing it is not natural. The laws are talking about are made by the elite to control you. They can be corrupt and steal but you the commoner cant according to them. So I think you are a slave by heart. Corruption slavery, genocide robbery is how England got so rich so that you can sit there right now and preach to Armenia. Somethings not right bro.

Embezzlement is not natural. It is a serious crime with serious punishment and loss of reputation. I cannot claim that it does not happen in England or any other developed country. I have no doubt some may get away with it.

However the majority of cases would be found out because there are processes and procedures, checks and balances and also a transparent system.
Also there are enough honest people in the system to be a deterrent to the would be crooks.



How do you see this.
Do you know how the nearly $3 Billion was used.


How low?
Every single dollar borrowed has "very low return".

[Serjik]

Re: Armenia and the information war

I dont know bro he didnt say. All he said was in a few years Armenia will join economic union controlled by Moscow. No border with Russia? That's stupid excuse. Trade can be done through air and sooner or later Georgia will come o their senses and we will also have railroad trade.

You mean the Russian customs union? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customs...tan_and_Russia)

The PM said though we wouldn't join it because we don't share border with Russia. Though I honestly hope we don't join any union, and keep the Armenian dram.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Embezzlement is natural and human and it also the same with corruption. Not doing it is not natural.

bro bro bro bro bro bro bro.................

If so, then I'm glad to say that, under your standards, I'm "not natural" - something I am thankful for if only because it avoids the risk of you ever calling me "bro".

[Mher]

Re: Armenia and the information war

^lmao
It is not natural, it is part of a culture that needs to be eradicated. Until people start putting the national interest ahead of their personal interest, we will never have progress, we will never become stronger, and our country will continue to deteriorate. If everyone stopped trying to cheat the system, then you wouldnt need to cheat the system to survive.

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

I dont know bro he didnt say. All he said was in a few years Armenia will join economic union controlled by Moscow. No border with Russia? That's stupid excuse. Trade can be done through air and sooner or later Georgia will come o their senses and we will also have railroad trade.

Well, us having no border with Russia was the reason given by the PM. Though the Eurasian Union which Putin wants to implement will have a common economic space, one currency, unified institutions, etc. I fear that with this Union Armenia will once again lose its independence, and I hope we don't join, just maintain the strong economic ties.