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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
    apparently Armenia and Iran arent the only countries azerbaijan has claims against.

    Turkmenistan Bigger Problem For Azerbaijan Than Karabakh

    The leadership of Azerbaijan keeps insisting that it wants the Nagorno Karabakh problem be solved keeping the territorial integrity of the country intact. Now an expert from Turkey says that the territorial dispute in the Caspian Sea with Turkmenistan is a bigger worry for Azerbaijan than Nagorno Karabakh.

    As the talks and negotiations have increased between Armenia and Azerbaijan, the later has not missed a single opportunity to remind the international community that the Nagorno Karabakh issue should be solved within the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and making the right for self-determination of the Nagorno Karabakah Armenians inferior to that. However, come and see that the international borders of Azerbaijan are also disputed by Turkmenistan, which will take a dispute with Azerbaijan over Caspian oil and gas fields to the International Court of Arbitration.

    Speaking to Sunday's Zaman, the head of the Center for International Relations and Strategic Analysis (TÜRKSAM) Sinan Oğan called the issues between Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan "a bigger problem." He said that Turkmenistan's decision to sue Azerbaijan in the last minute over the status of the Caspian Sea can create a problem for the Nabucco pipeline's gas supply. “It seems it will be a problem,” he concluded.

    This growing problem will be another headache for Azerbaijan and as TURKSAM expert from Turkey called it may create a problem for the Nabucco's gas supply. The feasibility of the Nabucco gas pipeline project depends mostly on the ability to use the Caspian gas.

    On July 24, speaking at government meeting, the president of Turkmenistan Gurbanguli Berdymukhamedov slammed Azerbaijan for its "intransigence." "For a long time, mainly because of Azerbaijan's stance, the issue of settling seabed borders, dividing natural resources and defining the boundary line between the two countries has not been resolved," Berdymukhamedov said in televised comments.

    According to Turkish newspaper Hurriyet the president of Turkmenistan instructed its Foreign Minister Rashid Meredov to examine the legality of Azerbaijan's claims to disputed offshore fields. He said the case would be taken to the international body and "we will accept any decision on this questions made by the International Court of Arbitration." Azerbaijan has begun unilateral development of disputed oil and gas fields, and is seeking rights to other deposits in the Caspian, Berdymukhamedov said.

    Azerbaijan has been in another territorial dispute with Nagorno Karabakh's Republic, which used the right of self-determination and has declared independence after a national referendum. United States, France and Russia are mediating a process hoping to bring about a peace agreement between Azerbaijan and Armenia. To this date Azerbaijan's actions are hindering the peace process because the country is not willing to recognize the right of self-determination of the people of Nagorno Karabakh. However, prolonging the conflict and making occasional war-like statements and now being involved in a new territorial dispute with Turkmenistan (which according to the Turkish political expert is a bigger problem for NABUCCO) will weaken Azerbaijan's position and it may lose more than what the country can achieve today by making honorable peace with Armenia based on mutual compromise.

    Otherwise, while Azerbaijan's leadership has not so far explained how a war can bring back Nagorno Karabakh it may seriously endanger its another big project: the NABUCCO. Many European countries are hopeful on NABUCCO's gas supply and will be interested to see Azerbaijan to solve these two disputes in peaceful and swift way.

    Written by Armen Hareyan

    http://www.huliq.com/1/84692/turkish...aijan-karabakh
    Everybody just loves the Azeris
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • Re: Armenia and the information war

      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
      Everybody just loves the Azeris
      they claim Armenia steals from others and there the only ones saying that. Were not the only ones to say that they steal from us. They have territorial claims towards us and Iran and now Turkmenistan. Like you said only azeris love azeris because they believe whatever there president says is true.

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      • Re: Armenia and the information war

        Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
        they claim Armenia steals from others and there the only ones saying that. Were not the only ones to say that they steal from us. They have territorial claims towards us and Iran and now Turkmenistan. Like you said only azeris love azeris because they believe whatever there president says is true.
        I hope that is true because for all the tough talk of aliev, he has no intention of restarting this war.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • Re: Armenia and the information war

          Well, Turkmenistan dosen't stand a chance here really.

          But I m surprised that two Turkic countries can dispute over water, even tho there is big Oil and Gas reserves.

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            Excellent drive. I wish them luck.
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            Drive for signatures in Karabakh

            At its statutory meeting last Saturday, the ‘Artsakh Republic’ initiative group announced a drive for signatures aimed to rename the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic into the Republic of Artsakh, to declare the liberated territories a zone of vital national interests and create a foundation for territories’ settlement.

            The statement signed by six group members reads:

            “We, the undersigned, considering the declared statements a platform for further accomplishments, made a decision to reach the following as an ultimate aim:

            1. To rename Nagorno-Karabakh Republic into the Republic of Artsakh

            2. To declare the liberated territories a zone of vital national interests

            3. To create all-national trust foundation for settling the liberated territories by Armenian refugees, ensure there economic growth to nullify the misbalance with Azerbaijani forces.”

            The signers launched a drive for signatures in Karabakh to realize the aforementioned points.

            Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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            • Re: Armenia and the information war

              Today.Az » Politics » NATO Web site contains gross mistake related to Azerbaijan

              10 August 2009 [18:57] - Today.Az

              The NATO Web site contains a gross mistake related to Azerbaijan.

              While break-away regions of Georgia and Moldova are not indicated on NATO overview, one can clearly see via zoom administrative borders of Nagorno-Karabakh region of Azerbaijan as being marked as in case of other states.

              Even the boundaries of NATO-created Kosovo is not indicated on the map despite the military operation the Alliance conducted in 1999 against Belgrade to withdraw the province from control of Serbian central government and the recognition of the self-proclaimed state by many countries including NATO member states.

              It also raises questions how this map meets recent statements by the Alliance on the recognition of Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity.

              We urge NATO to correct the disappointing mistake.

              Vugar Seidov,
              AzerTaj, Berlin

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              Day.Az joins the statement and offers to replace the current (wrong) map




              with the following




              URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/54539.html

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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                Excellent drive. I wish them luck.
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                Drive for signatures in Karabakh

                At its statutory meeting last Saturday, the ‘Artsakh Republic’ initiative group announced a drive for signatures aimed to rename the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic into the Republic of Artsakh, to declare the liberated territories a zone of vital national interests and create a foundation for territories’ settlement.

                The statement signed by six group members reads:

                “We, the undersigned, considering the declared statements a platform for further accomplishments, made a decision to reach the following as an ultimate aim:

                1. To rename Nagorno-Karabakh Republic into the Republic of Artsakh

                2. To declare the liberated territories a zone of vital national interests

                3. To create all-national trust foundation for settling the liberated territories by Armenian refugees, ensure there economic growth to nullify the misbalance with Azerbaijani forces.”

                The signers launched a drive for signatures in Karabakh to realize the aforementioned points.

                http://news.am/en/news/2273.html
                Can we sign as well

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                • Re: Armenia and the information war

                  LIDER remittance system cooperates with Nagorno-Karabakh separatists

                  10 August 2009 [13:24] - Today.Az
                  A number of financial institutions ignoring international norms and rules continue to help Nagorno Karabakh separatists.

                  Thus, through LIDER system of remittances, it is easily possible to transfer money to Khankandi, hot line of LIDER remittances system told Day.Az correspondent.

                  “By means of LIDER system of remittances, one can transfer money to Stepanakert [Khankandi]. Money can be transferred to the 2 branches of Artsakhbank. Commission will be 2 percent,” the hot line said.

                  In other words, LIDER helps Armenian diaspora to transfer money to Nagorno Karabakh.

                  It should be noted that link on Armenia is inactive on the official Web site of the money transfer system. Thus, it seems the money transfer system tries to hide illegal actions related to money transfers to Khankandi.

                  LIDER is one of the major players of Russian market of remittances on the territory of CIS countries. So, this fact can not be ignored.

                  LIDER cooperates with a number of Azerbaijani banks as well.

                  We hope that the Central Bank of Azerbaijan which always quickly responds to these facts and will intervene with the situation and send a formal letter of protest to LIDER money transfer system.

                  Last year, thanks to a series of articles in Day.Az, as well as a clear and operational position of the Central Bank, WesternUnion and Migom money transfer system ceased cooperation with the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh. Moreover, the system of money transfers Moneygram, which has ignored calls by the Central Bank, was completely banned in Azerbaijan.

                  Day.Az readers can also express a protest by sending an e-mail [email protected].

                  Below is the sample letter in English

                  To the attention of the LIDER system of remittances!

                  I would like to bring to your attention that LIDER money transfer system has a serious error in its activity which affects the interests of Azerbaijan and its own image as well.

                  So, I found out that LIDER transfers money to Nagorno-Karabakh, in particular, to two branches of Artsakhbank in “Stepanakert” (true name is Khankandi). I would like to bring to your attention that Nagorno-Karabakh is an integral part of Azerbaijan and any financial transactions in this area is illegal.

                  We urge you to cease transfers to Nagorno-Karabakh. It is noticeable that largest money transfer systems such as Western Union and Migom ceased transfers to Nagorno-Karabakh last year.

                  Sincerely

                  /Name, middle name, surname/

                  /Day.Az/

                  URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/54523.html
                  Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Like many Armenians have said azeris dont even know what they are.

                    Azeri historian: The term “Azerbaijanis” was coined in 1930’s
                    10.08.2009 20:10 GMT+04:00
                    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ “We cannot have national ideology unless we are certain about our national self-identification,” Doctor of History Farid Alekperli, Department Head at Azerbaijan’s National Academy of Sciences, says in an article entitled “Who are We? Where do we come from, and Where do we Go”. The article was published in Saturday’s issue of “Zerkalo” Azerbaijani newspaper.

                    Before the 1930s’ Stalin reforms, the notion “Azerbaijanis” did not simply exist, Azeri historian says, noting further that the term was coined in the late 1930s by the great repressor’s will. Until 1936, People in the Democratic Republic of Azerbaijan (1918-1920) and Azerbaijani Soviet Republic were officially known as Turks, he notes.

                    “Having lost their national self-identification, we got stuck in debates on who we are, i.e. whether we descend from Sumerians, Talish tribes, Albanians, Medes or some other ethnic group. There’ll be no end to such tiresome and stupid debates unless we recognize that our true ethnic origins are disguised behind the featureless term ‘Azerbaijanis’. We descend mostly from Turks, as well as Kurds, Tats, Lezghins etc.”

                    “Armenians, Persians and other nations still call us Turks,” Alekperli underlines.

                    Bringing the example of Arab states and Iranian Azeris, who “have been calling themselves ‘Turks’ from time immemorial”, the historian expresses conviction that no one confuses them with the Turks living in Turkey.

                    Alekperli is concerned that use of the artificial term “Azerbaijanis” may result in the loss of national identity, assimilation to Russians and Western nations and eventually, it may lead to mancurtization, especially under the pressures of globalization policy.

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                    • Re: Armenia and the information war

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      LIDER remittance system cooperates with Nagorno-Karabakh separatists

                      10 August 2009 [13:24] - Today.Az
                      A number of financial institutions ignoring international norms and rules continue to help Nagorno Karabakh separatists.

                      Thus, through LIDER system of remittances, it is easily possible to transfer money to Khankandi, hot line of LIDER remittances system told Day.Az correspondent.

                      “By means of LIDER system of remittances, one can transfer money to Stepanakert [Khankandi]. Money can be transferred to the 2 branches of Artsakhbank. Commission will be 2 percent,” the hot line said.

                      In other words, LIDER helps Armenian diaspora to transfer money to Nagorno Karabakh.

                      It should be noted that link on Armenia is inactive on the official Web site of the money transfer system. Thus, it seems the money transfer system tries to hide illegal actions related to money transfers to Khankandi.

                      LIDER is one of the major players of Russian market of remittances on the territory of CIS countries. So, this fact can not be ignored.

                      LIDER cooperates with a number of Azerbaijani banks as well.

                      We hope that the Central Bank of Azerbaijan which always quickly responds to these facts and will intervene with the situation and send a formal letter of protest to LIDER money transfer system.

                      Last year, thanks to a series of articles in Day.Az, as well as a clear and operational position of the Central Bank, WesternUnion and Migom money transfer system ceased cooperation with the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh. Moreover, the system of money transfers Moneygram, which has ignored calls by the Central Bank, was completely banned in Azerbaijan.

                      Day.Az readers can also express a protest by sending an e-mail [email protected].

                      Below is the sample letter in English

                      To the attention of the LIDER system of remittances!

                      I would like to bring to your attention that LIDER money transfer system has a serious error in its activity which affects the interests of Azerbaijan and its own image as well.

                      So, I found out that LIDER transfers money to Nagorno-Karabakh, in particular, to two branches of Artsakhbank in “Stepanakert” (true name is Khankandi). I would like to bring to your attention that Nagorno-Karabakh is an integral part of Azerbaijan and any financial transactions in this area is illegal.

                      We urge you to cease transfers to Nagorno-Karabakh. It is noticeable that largest money transfer systems such as Western Union and Migom ceased transfers to Nagorno-Karabakh last year.

                      Sincerely

                      /Name, middle name, surname/

                      /Day.Az/

                      URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/54523.html
                      Yap, and Armenia banned Western Union on its teritory after they refused operate on Karabakh teritory.

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