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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
    Like many Armenians have said azeris dont even know what they are.

    Azeri historian: The term “Azerbaijanis” was coined in 1930’s
    10.08.2009 20:10 GMT+04:00
    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ “We cannot have national ideology unless we are certain about our national self-identification,” Doctor of History Farid Alekperli, Department Head at Azerbaijan’s National Academy of Sciences, says in an article entitled “Who are We? Where do we come from, and Where do we Go”. The article was published in Saturday’s issue of “Zerkalo” Azerbaijani newspaper.

    Before the 1930s’ Stalin reforms, the notion “Azerbaijanis” did not simply exist, Azeri historian says, noting further that the term was coined in the late 1930s by the great repressor’s will. Until 1936, People in the Democratic Republic of Azerbaijan (1918-1920) and Azerbaijani Soviet Republic were officially known as Turks, he notes.

    “Having lost their national self-identification, we got stuck in debates on who we are, i.e. whether we descend from Sumerians, Talish tribes, Albanians, Medes or some other ethnic group. There’ll be no end to such tiresome and stupid debates unless we recognize that our true ethnic origins are disguised behind the featureless term ‘Azerbaijanis’. We descend mostly from Turks, as well as Kurds, Tats, Lezghins etc.”

    “Armenians, Persians and other nations still call us Turks,” Alekperli underlines.

    Bringing the example of Arab states and Iranian Azeris, who “have been calling themselves ‘Turks’ from time immemorial”, the historian expresses conviction that no one confuses them with the Turks living in Turkey.

    Alekperli is concerned that use of the artificial term “Azerbaijanis” may result in the loss of national identity, assimilation to Russians and Western nations and eventually, it may lead to mancurtization, especially under the pressures of globalization policy.

    http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=35223
    What a honest turk!

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      Intellectual and cultural setback in Azerbaijan


      Azerbaijani website 1news.az raised a concern with intellectual level of modern Azerbaijani society. The author of article under “Classics should be read (now and then)…” head, published August 11, states: “Under Soviet regime Azeris were not the most literate nation of all Soviet republics. Only Muscovites and intellectuals in regions were those being in fond of reading and constantly enriching their library…”

      “Under various reasons, like instability in the first years of Azerbaijan independence, Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict, the majority of reading people left Baku. Due to social-economic problems and shifting priorities, book is no more a thoughtful gift, as well as library is not host’s pride,” the author asserts, acknowledging that Armenians and Russians being the intellectual and cultural backbone of Azerbaijani SSR left Baku and regions under the mentioned circumstances.

      The author recalls that within last 70 years Azerbaijani alphabet has been changed thrice which also impacted the reading circles. “By no means all could easily adapt to new alphabet and deprive themselves of a pleasure to read modern literature published in the country,” the author concludes.

      I concur wholeheartedly with the author on uneasy lot of the nation that lacks alphabetic script due to historical and cultural setback. However one can argue for the advantages and disadvantages of the modern Azerbaijani publications – propagandist and agitation literature, as well as some ‘historical’ piece of writing that are fully donated by Mehriban Aliyeva’s foundation. Should one read this stuff? It’s a rhetorical question…

      “Another reason for decreasing number of readers after independence is definitely the advocated switch of political benchmarks. The result – everything from Turkey is considered right and proper in Azerbaijan,” the text reads “Russian-speaking mass was replaced by Turkish-speaking passion”. And here the information of Turkish Radical daily (referring to Independent Trade Union of educators data) is right to the point, stating that average Turk reads one book in 10-year period. Conclusions on the prospects of Azerbaijani intellectual growth reading this statistics inevitably come to mind.

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        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        Intellectual and cultural setback in Azerbaijan


        Azerbaijani website 1news.az raised a concern with intellectual level of modern Azerbaijani society. The author of article under “Classics should be read (now and then)…” head, published August 11, states: “Under Soviet regime Azeris were not the most literate nation of all Soviet republics. Only Muscovites and intellectuals in regions were those being in fond of reading and constantly enriching their library…”

        “Under various reasons, like instability in the first years of Azerbaijan independence, Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Nagorno-Karabakh military conflict, the majority of reading people left Baku. Due to social-economic problems and shifting priorities, book is no more a thoughtful gift, as well as library is not host’s pride,” the author asserts, acknowledging that Armenians and Russians being the intellectual and cultural backbone of Azerbaijani SSR left Baku and regions under the mentioned circumstances.

        The author recalls that within last 70 years Azerbaijani alphabet has been changed thrice which also impacted the reading circles. “By no means all could easily adapt to new alphabet and deprive themselves of a pleasure to read modern literature published in the country,” the author concludes.

        I concur wholeheartedly with the author on uneasy lot of the nation that lacks alphabetic script due to historical and cultural setback. However one can argue for the advantages and disadvantages of the modern Azerbaijani publications – propagandist and agitation literature, as well as some ‘historical’ piece of writing that are fully donated by Mehriban Aliyeva’s foundation. Should one read this stuff? It’s a rhetorical question…

        “Another reason for decreasing number of readers after independence is definitely the advocated switch of political benchmarks. The result – everything from Turkey is considered right and proper in Azerbaijan,” the text reads “Russian-speaking mass was replaced by Turkish-speaking passion”. And here the information of Turkish Radical daily (referring to Independent Trade Union of educators data) is right to the point, stating that average Turk reads one book in 10-year period. Conclusions on the prospects of Azerbaijani intellectual growth reading this statistics inevitably come to mind.

        http://news.am/en/news/2326.html
        First time I've actually seen a turk speak of a problem in there country,
        without blaming it on Armenians.

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        • Re: Armenia and the information war

          Originally posted by Icy View Post
          First time I've actually seen a turk speak of a problem in there country,
          without blaming it on Armenians.
          actally he does: he blames it on armenians who left the country )

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            Turkish Group Accuses Google of Limiting Free Speech


            A Turkish advocacy organization is accusing Google of limiting free speech after the Web search leader suspended the group’s ads in response to complaints by an Armenian-American group that the ads were “morally reprehensible” for denying a genocide occurred in the Ottoman-Armenian conflict of a century ago, according to yesterday’s FOXNews.com.

            The Turkish Coalition of America said Google pulled its ads without giving the group a chance to respond to the accusations made by the Armenian National Committee of America.

            A Google spokesman told FOX News that it does not accept ads “designed to stir up hate or advocate against a protected group.” The spokesman also said the company does not allow ads for Web sties “that suggest revisions to history or attempt to revise history against the interests of a protected group.”

            “So you can imagine an ad by a Nazi group that said the Holocaust is a myth,” the spokesman said, offering another example of an ad that would be rejected by Google.

            The Turkish Coalition, or TCA, objects to Google’s policy.

            “The notion that there is a Google-accepted version of history is extraordinarily disturbing,” the group said in a statement.

            “Google has failed to distinguish between advocating an idea in an historic controversy, which the TCA does, and advocating against a group, which the TCA does not,” the group said. “This notion strikes at the very core of the First Amendment free speech rights.”

            The Armenian National Committee of America initiated its online campaign against the ads in May, asking supporters to urge Google to stop hosting genocide denial ads placed by the Turkish Coalition.

            “Ask Google to live up to its guiding principle of ‘Don’t be Evil’ by refusing to profit from an organization seeking a platform for their historically inaccurate, morally reprehensible and deeply offensive genocidal denial campaign.”

            The group said search terms such as “Armenian Genocide,” “Armenia” and “Armenian” typically spawn a Google ADWords link that reads either : “History, Propaganda” or “Learn Armenian Atrocities.” Both directed users to the Turkish Coalition’s Web site that it says features “extensive content denying the Armenian Genocide.”

            The Republic of Turkey disputes the use of the term “genocide” to describe the decimation of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during and just after World War I.

            David Saltzman of the Turkish Coalition told FOX News that his group is not against any group and lamented that anyone who disputes a genocide happened in 1915 is “accused of immorality and criminality.”

            The suspension of ads, Saltzman said, is devastating to his group because it limits its “presence in the marketplace of ideas.”

            Aram Hamparian, executive director of the Armenian National Committee of America, told FOX News that he was “gratified” that Google decided the Turkish group’s ads were not “consistent with its values. We think Google did the right thing.”

            He added that the Turkish group was just as misguided in trying to force Google to run the ads as it is in denying the genocide.

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            • Re: Armenia and the information war

              10:0 for Aram against turks!

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                Stepan Safaryan: Armenia can reject Madrid Principles
                13.08.2009 20:51 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail

                /PanARMENIAN.Net/ “Present-day Armenian government bears no responsibility for negotiations conducted by its predecessors,” “Heritage” faction MP Stepan Safaryan told today a seminar on “Armenian-Turkish relations: present and past”. The speaker positively estimated Azeri President Ilham Aliyev’s statement that NKR settlement talks conducted by his predecessor Heydar Aliyev bear no relationship to him.

                “Armenia still has time to refuse conducting talks over Madrid Principles,” Safaryan said.

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                  What Azeri soldiers eat?


                  Azerbaijani Defense Ministry sued the opposition “Yeni Musavat” newspaper for presenting the current morals in Azerbaijani army.

                  "Some mass media wish to tarnish Azerbaijani Army’s reputation in the public eyes, Azerbaijani Defense Ministry Spokesman Teymur Abdulayev stated.

                  On August 10, “Yeni Musavat” newspaper published an article, titled “What does Azerbaijani soldier eat”. The author of the article informs that animal food is given to the soldiers, even covering some experts’ opinions.

                  “The journalists should present proofs during the trial, otherwise they will be punished to the fullest extent of the law”, Abdulayev stated.

                  “Azerbaijani army belongs to Azeri people, its problems are ours too”, Rauf Arifoglu, editor-in-chief of Yeni Musavat newspaper told APA agency. He also stated he would like a trial to be public, so that the society sees how disgraceful the Azerbaijani Army’s logistics is.

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                    Azerbaijani oil exports reduced



                    Azerbaijani oil exports reduce each year. According to Azerbaijani State Oil Company Press Service the company supplied 1.211.597 ton of oil abroad in the first seven months 2009. In the same period 2008 1.358.384 ton of oil was exported.

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                      Azerbaijani hackers attack Armenian websites

                      There was a group of experts set up to protect Armenian websites from the cracks of Azerbaijani hackers. 75 specialists and journalists expressed willingness to be involved in the group, Stepan Aslanyan, “Smart Systems” Director told journalists today.

                      Aslanyan supposes that check list should be elaborated and all Armenian websites should meet its requirements. The outcomes will be tangible shortly. “There are some Armenian websites that can be cracked even by a 3-year-old child.”

                      The cracked websites can be restored only by their programmers, however Aslanyan supposes that the programmers are currently having rest in Antalia.

                      The RA Ministry of Economy website was cracked and not yet restored. According to Smart Systems Director more than 100 websites are cracked in Armenia by now.

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