Armenia and the information war

[Federate]

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The "azeri" propoganda services got a helping hand today and unfortunately, it came from Armenians. This article, citing Levonakan sources, claims that Serge Sargsyan faces/faced an assassination threat by the usual suspects Turks, azerbaboons and Levonakans like to blame - Dashnaks and Kocharian.
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Armenian intelligence investigate president assassination plot
[ 05 Nov 2008 19:09 ]


Baku. Zaur Nurmammadov-APA. Armenian intelligence investigates the article on Serzh Sargsyan’s assassination plot published in pro-opposition newspaper Aykakan Jamanak, APA reports quoting Interfax.
Armenian intelligence called Lusine Barsegian, author of article to give testimony. Barsegian wrote quoting Sarkis Apsanian, veteran of Nagorno Karabakh war and living in France at present that several assassinations including bombing of presidential plane planned to be plotted. Apsanian stated that he got information from his friend, teaching at military academy in one of the European countries. He underlined that former President Robert Kocharian and Dashnaktsutyun Party had a hand in the assassination. Moreover, forces being against concessions in the settlement of Nagorno Karabakh supports murder of Sargsyan.
Jirayr Sefilian, veteran of Nagorno Karabakh war announced that he established union of political forces being against territorial concessions. Dashnaktsutyun Party publicized that it would leave the coalition if the government does not take interests of Karabakh into account.

Baboon source: http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=91493

[AR MENIA]

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Pfff these azeries are trully out of their minds...

western azerbeidjan? the nerves...

[meline]

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Talking about information war and propaganda, here is the most recent example of it.
Well yes, of course, it's not a baboon source, it's the "much respected" Financial Times but come on, it's almost not a secret to anyone how closely associated they are with British Petroleum which (ha!!!!!) incidentally has a large stake in the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline. So here is the latest chef d'oeuvre of their "brilliant minds"

Armenia and Azerbaijan seek peace accord

By Isabel Gorst in Moscow

Published: November 3 2008 22:55 | Last updated: November 3 2008 22:55

Azerbaijan on Monday welcomed a thaw in relations with Armenia after the xpresidents of the two countries pledged to find a political settlement to their 15-year conflict over the breakaway enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Nagorno-Karabakh, a mountainous enclave populated by ethnic Armenians, broke away from Azerbaijan during a violent war that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union. It has run its own affairs with support from Armenia, since a fragile ceasefire in 1994, although no state has recognised its independence.

Ilham Aliev, the president of Azerbaijan, and his Armenian counterpart, Serzh Sarksyan held talks about Nagorno-Karabakh at a meeting outside Moscow this weekend hosted by Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian xpresident.

The three men signed a declaration agreeing to intensify diplomatic efforts to resolve the dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh and to develop confidence building measures in the region.

Khazar Ibrahim, a spokesman for Azerbaijan’s foreign ministry, said, “This is the first ever document about Nagorno-Karabakh signed by the two heads of state. If we use the document and take practical steps we have a chance to move forward.”

He said Azerbaijan was prepared to consider allowing Nagorno-Karabakh some measure of self-determination, adding that “self-determination does not mean independence”.

Azerbaijan has demanded that Armenia withdraw troops from Nagorno-Karabakh and allow ethnic Azerbaijanis displaced during the war to return home.
“Comprehensive confidence building will only be possible if both communities live together,” he said.

Western diplomats said the war in August between Russia and Georgia over Georgia’s separatist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia appeared to have given impetus to diplomatic efforts to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Azerbaijan has grown prosperous amid an oil boom, and has stepped up defence spending recently. However, the country has abandoned threats to retake Nagorno-Karabakh by force since the war in Georgia.

Armenia, dependent on Georgia for access to the west since a blockade imposed by Azerbaijan and Turkey in the early 1990’s, suffered economic losses during the August war when roads across Georgia to the Black Sea were closed.

Mr Ibrahim said that Azerbaijan would invest in Nagorno-Karabakh’s economic revival once the conflict was settled. “It is in everybody’s interest, including Armenia’s, that the conflict is resolved,” he said.
Armenia is willing to consider returning to Azerbaijan some territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh captured during the war, but insists that the autonomy of Nagorno-Karabakh itself is not negotiable.Karlen Avetissian, Nagorno-Karabakh’s permanent envoy in Yerevan, the Armenian capital, said representatives of the mountain enclave wanted to be involved in negotiations about their fate. Like many in Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia, he expressed fears about spiralling Azerbajaini military spending in the absence of a peace deal between Yerevan and Baku following their conflict.
For its part, Turkey sided with Azerbaijan in the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, but has recently taken steps to mend its fractured relationship with Armenia, using the impetus of President Abdullah Gul’s “football diplomacy” in attending September’s match between the two countries in Yerevan, the Armenian capital.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d1869526-a9f4-11dd-958b-000077b07658.html?forprint

The perfect example of twisted journalism, I would say

I read the abovementioned Declaration 5 times and couldn't find in it anything to that effect. Same goes for the statements coming out from the FMs of Armenia and the Minsk Group co-chairs. It seems that both the baboons and their allies are in for some wishful thining
Pathetic

[Federate]

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Azerbaboons strike again.
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NKR MFA: Russia Channel report on Karabakh cancelled over Azeri pressure

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Journalists from the Russia TV Channel have paid a working visit to the Nagorno Karabakh Republic Recently to prepare a corresponding survey for the Vesti Nedeli program. The journalists prepared a commentary on the peaceful life and post-war rehabilitation of Nagorno Karabakh, and, at their request, the corresponding structures of NKR arranged meetings with official and public representatives of the Republic and organized visits to the institutions, enterprises, etc. However, as it turned out later, after the commentary was covered in the Far Eastern region of the Russian Federation, the coverage of the material was stopped in other regions, under the pressure of Azerbaijan, says a statement by the NKR Foreign Ministry.

“Who could dislike the fair survey on the peaceful life in the Nagorno Karabakh Republic? The answer is simple: Baku fears the truth about Nagorno Karabakh that for the years of its independence, the Republic has successfully solved all the issues and has progressively developed.

It’s absolutely inadmissible to use the situation in propagandistic purposes; the informational technologies that distort the core of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict should be necessarily rejected. Similar actions negatively affect, first of all, the Azerbaijani society, as deluding it on the Nagorno Karabakh issue Baku brings all the peacemaking initiatives to naught.

Moreover, this absurd incident testifies that the leadership of the Russia Channel under the pressure of the Azerbaijani authorities displays “caution”, ipso facto preventing the TV viewers of the Russian Federation from getting trustworthy information on the NKR and sets a sad example both to other TV channels and periodicals,” the statement says.

From http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=27683

[Federate]

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How can we let such a site remain on the air, untouched and full of xxxx? We need a counter-website as soon as possible.

http://www.human.az/

[Federate]

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It's funny that now that the Armenian men's and women's chess teams have beaten the Azerbaboon men's and women's chess teams at the Chess olympics, the Azerbaboons are VERY quiet about the tournament, not even mentioning their humiliating defeat.

I can just imagine if they had won: "Glorious nation of Azerbaijan chess team destroys weak Ermenis! Humiliation followed the Ermeni loss after which the Azerbaijanis were praised by European nations for their success, as usual."

[yerazhishda]

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How can we let such a site remain on the air, untouched and full of xxxx? We need a counter-website as soon as possible.

http://www.human.az/

The music from "Requiem For A Dream" is a nice touch though, you have to admit.

Sometimes you have to wonder, do they really believe this garbage? In what world does it make sense that a people can commit a genocide against another when they are outnumbered 3:1? Just use logic, it's not *that* hard to figure out that it's impossible.

[Federate]

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The music from "Requiem For A Dream" is a nice touch though, you have to admit.

Yeah, I like that piece of music a lot. That's why it makes it even more painful to watch this xxxx for me

Sometimes you have to wonder, do they really believe this garbage? In what world does it make sense that a people can commit a genocide against another when they are outnumbered 3:1? Just use logic, it's not *that* hard to figure out that it's impossible.

The only reason they want to believe it is because they lost the war and they need to find ways to make us look bad and find reasons why they lost. Oh and they want to find something to counter our genocide. They want to use Khojalu to nullify the genocide cause.

Anyway Khojalu has been exposed by various military experts and even some "azeris" as being a self-inflicted wound. Khojalu was used to bomb Stepanakert so we decided to take action and since it was a population sector, we clearly through loudspeakers warned them of the impending attack and provided a safe corridor. They took the corridor but what happened was that the OMON used the same corridor and through it fired on Armenians. We bombed them and people died. Then in all the confusion of these civilians and OMON going through the dense forests, "azeris" holding the fort at the other side fired at them thinking they were Armenians. More died.

Various third-country journalists visited the site of the deaths and did not notice mutilation. The same journalists visited a little later and found mutilation... how could this be? They mutilated their own dead bodies to make it look like a gross maniacal attack.

They have a hero of theirs called Chingiz Mustafayev who was a cameraman who filmed the bodies and stuff. After awhile, Chingiz decided to do an investigation because he doubted the official storyline that Armenians were only behind it. He was killed in mysterious circumstances (blamed on an Armenian shell) just a few days later. You can come up with your own conclusions.

Sadly, the people in those Human Rights organizations have taken up the official "azeri" version so they have some solid backing. Of course, no one outside Kaku and maybe Turkey believes it was 'genocide' but most believe that we committed a premeditated massacre.

[jgk3]

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pictures of 3-4 people dead is genocide? How many Azeris are out there, like 20? Is that what they're trying to say?

[truAnatolian]

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Thats what war looks like...... people die.

Genocide is completely different, and while both are less than ideal and horrible there is a clear and distinct difference.