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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    One more fact proving Ukraine’s secret arms deal with Armenia identified - CONTRACT

    [ 23 Aug 2012 16:07 ]
    Baku – APA. One more fact, which proves the military cooperation between Ukraine and Armenia, has been identified.

    The fact is that the relevant organizations of both countries signed an arms sale agreement. The agreement dated back to August 26, 2011 was signed between the affiliate of the Ukraine’s State Company UkrSpetsExport – UkrInMash State Trade and Investment Firm and Armenia’s DG Arms Corporation.

    UkrInMash’s Deputy Director Oleg Kostenko and DG Arms Corporation Chairman of Board Davit Galstyan signed the agreement.

    According to the agreement, DG Arms Corporation bought $298 000 cartridges and ammunition belts from UkrInMash.

    Armenian company had to sell these ammunitions to the United Arab Emirates. According to the agreement, the seller – UkrInMash had to deliver shipment to Tirana airport, Albania and then give it to the buyer.

    The final consumer was the UAE armed forces.

    Recently there have been reports about the Ukraine-Armenia secret arms deal. The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, Major-General Sergei Gmyza sent a letter to President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych explaining the ways of arms supplies to Armenia under a contract between UkrSpetsExport and DG Arms Corporation (the mediator of Armenian Defense Ministry).

    The letter offers to use front companies registered in EU and CIS for supplies. According to the letter, Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry received information about the contract between the UkrSpetsExport and DG Arms Corporation (the mediator of Armenian Defense Ministry) to supply 12 units of Smerch multiple rocket launching systems and their components, 50 Igla MANPADS, as well as the fact that Armenia has already paid 50 percent of contract value.

    Gmyza said that not wanting to jeopardize the military-technical and energy cooperation between Azerbaijan and Ukraine, UkrSpetsExport is invited to "publicly renounce the fact of an agreement with the Armenian side." At the same time the Armenian company is offered to simulate the appeal to arbitration, "the spread among its environment of sharply negative attitude to the leadership of UkrSpetsExport and the Ukrainian side, as an unreliable supplier."

    At the same time head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry proposed to carry out the delivery of Smerch sets in a conspiracy from the territory of Moldova, "using front companies registered in the EU or the CIS."

    Marking on the products this should be changed, and in the case of disclosure of fraud to conceal origin of Igla MANPADS by warehouses in Libya, looted by rebels of the liberation movement.

    The arms deals and military cooperation between Ukraine and Armenia have been intensified after Victor Yanukovich’s coming to power. Ukraine introduces itself as a strategic partner of Azerbaijan, but Ukraine’s military cooperation with Armenia, which occupies the Azerbaijani lands, causes concern and questions.
    apa.az


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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by burjuin View Post
      apa.az
      I like the fact that apa.az is trying hard to prove the deal actually happened. It spares us years of speculation and waiting for armenian side to confirm it

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
        I like the fact that apa.az is trying hard to prove the deal actually happened. It spares us years of speculation and waiting for armenian side to confirm it
        Does Ukraine or any other nation break any laws by selling arms to Armenia? if not there would be no reason to deny such deals? or is it only Armenia who wants to keep everything secret.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Why are they talking ? They have 2 times more tanks than allowed ( and that is officially ) , two times more airplanes than allowed...
          They are hypocrite !

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            Now it's clear for me that we had bought Smerch from Ukraine. But the the reason of all of this secrecy is still unclear which is not really important for at the moment.

            Do you guys remember what said annoncer woman at the independence day parade when our WM-80's passed from Republican square?
            Last edited by AstalaVist; 08-23-2012, 11:39 AM.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
              I like the fact that apa.az is trying hard to prove the deal actually happened. It spares us years of speculation and waiting for armenian side to confirm it
              But why are they making such a big deal out of it. Ukraine has repeatedly made it clear that such allegations by Azerbaijan are straining relations. Why keep bringing it up?

              Originally posted by Etchmiadzin View Post
              Does Ukraine or any other nation break any laws by selling arms to Armenia? if not there would be no reason to deny such deals? or is it only Armenia who wants to keep everything secret.
              I believe that because Armenia/NKR is an "occupying" force, it is illegal for arms deals to be made with Armenia. Not sure why Russia is the exception though.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by davidoga View Post
                But why are they making such a big deal out of it. Ukraine has repeatedly made it clear that such allegations by Azerbaijan are straining relations. Why keep bringing it up?



                I believe that because Armenia/NKR is an "occupying" force, it is illegal for arms deals to be made with Armenia. Not sure why Russia is the exception though.
                That just blows my mind. We are the occupying force in our own land. Unbeleveable.
                Artashes

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by burjuin View Post
                  apa.az


                  whait a minute,what it says,we got 800.000 12,7x108 mm bullets for 264.000 bucks??? do we buying ammo from ukraine even?

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by AstalaVist View Post
                    Now it's clear for me that we had bought Smerch from Ukraine. But the the reason of all of this secrecy is still unclear which is not really important for at the moment.

                    Do you guys remember what said annoncer woman at the independence day parade when our WM-80's passed from Republican square?
                    No what did she said ?

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      102nd military base of the Russian Armed Forces in Gyumri, Armenia.







                      Last edited by burjuin; 08-23-2012, 10:27 PM.

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