Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Mher]

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ohoooo, lav eliii, esinchqan hetenq mnuuum, vochmiban chenq karoxanum gnel???????? aydqan debilenq?

Aper take it easy, yerkoo ban hishi:

1) Remember Armenia almost never announces what it purchases and receives. Everything is held a secret. Azerbaijan on the other hand spreads the word before even receiving the items like a 16 year old girl.

2) Also, remember the last war was won with a much much wider disadvantage, with Artsakh surrounded and no supply route to Armenia. Now Armenia has the higher ground, and has the border set to the most favorable positions. They need many times the advantage before they have a chance.

We will be okay

[Chubs]

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Do not worry, Im sure Armenia has something up their sleeve...This is where an airforce and good tactics would really come in handy, I hope we have at least one of those :/
If there is going to be any war, its going to be Azerbaijan and Iran..US and Israel have been conducting alot of snooping in the air above Iran thanks to the air fields in Azerbaijan...

[Hakob]

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Special silent, semi-automatic sniper rifle, production of the company "ASPAR ARMS" based on AK, Republic of Armenia.
Is a means of hidden attack and defense.
Is designed to defeat enemy military personnel, as well as unarmoured equipment. Provides silent , flameless fire.








Basic characteristics:

Caliber, mm. 7.62x35
Length, mm. 920
Barrel length, mm. 250
Weight, kg. 4.3
Step rifling 200
Number of grooves 6
Cartridges capacity 10
Muzzle velocity m/s 320
The average diameter of the dispersion at 100m, mm 15

Very impressive. Silent with heavy projectile. 3/4" grouping on average at 100 meters. Exellent for close range sniping as if the shooters were far away.
This will be a very good weapon in the hands of our special ops. Ambush with a strong firepower and then melt away taking enemy hostage.
If you have a covering fire from 2-300 meters back, the enemy will never notice that right under their nose someone is plinking at them.

[Mher]

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It appears the warmongerer's attempted distraction from his theft of billions of dollars has been successful:

http://www.conflict-voices.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/azerbaijan_issues.jpg

impressive to see a nation that had to drag their men to the battlefield 20 years ago actually cares about land that has nothing to do with them

[Chubs]

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Very impressive. Silent with heavy projectile. 3/4" grouping on average at 100 meters. Exellent for close range sniping as if the shooters were far away.
This will be a very good weapon in the hands of our special ops. Ambush with a strong firepower and then melt away taking enemy hostage.
If you have a covering fire from 2-300 meters back, the enemy will never notice that right under their nose someone is plinking at them.

Yet the question still remains..: Y they no use this?

[Mher]

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Silicon Valley Community Raises $80,000 for Karabakh Resettlement

LOS ALTOS HILLS, Calif.—Seventy five friends gathered at the beautiful home of Adam and Rita Kablanian of Los Altos Hills to support renovation efforts and the building of homes for resettlement in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic on November 24.

During the event, eight families pledged to sponsor homes and more than $80,000 was raised for new opportunities for Armenians.

Committee Chair Jirair Sarkissian spoke of the desperate need to provide sustainability for residents of the Kashatagh (Lachin) region of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, and the emphasized the need to step up for all Armenians.

Committee Treasurer Mardo Kaprealian added that such substantial support, raised in such a short period of time, reflects the strategic importance of the project along with the continuing generosity of Armenians throughout the Bay Area.

http://asbarez.com/117228/silicon-valley-community-raises-80000-karabakh-resettlement/

[Mher]

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Analysis: Azerbaijan, Karabakh Well-Protected Against Air Attack; Armenia Less So
August 2, 2011 - 5:22pm, by Joshua Kucera

Analysis: Azerbaijan, Karabakh Well-Protected Against Air Attack; Armenia Less So


Militaries in the former USSR are among the most secretive in the world, but our new information age is creating some opportunities to peek behind the curtain a bit. One of my favorite examples is the open-source military analysis by the folks at IMINT & Analysis, who pore over Google Earth satellite imagery of air defense systems and try to come to some conclusions. In the most recent issue of their newsletter (subscription only, but free, viewable as a Google Doc here) they look at Azerbaijan's systems, and the news isn't good for Armenia. After looking at the various systems Azerbaijan has, they conclude:

This well organised overlapping [air defense] system will deny Armenia any chance of sorties within Azerbaijan’s territory along the Nagorno Karabagh border. Its air force will cover the gaps for the protection for the rest of the nation if Armenia takes desperate measures to inflict extra losses. For the time being Armenia’s limited air arm provides no real threat for any strikes within Azeri territory, the only threat being the R-17 [Scud missiles].

The Scud missiles could be used in an attack on Baku's oil infrastructure, the analysis continues:

Baku’s main concern is Armenia’s R-17 (SCUD) [short-range ballistic missile] inventory. The major powers all have interest in this oil rich area and currently American interests have helped develop part of Azerbaijan’s navy with radars, military supervision and many joint military exercises. Armenia’s limited number of ballistic missiles will only strike Azerbaijan with psychological damage as the accuracy (CEP) will be a limiting factor and cannot guarantee the total destruction of the oil fields. A barrage of semi accurate strikes on the oil fields might damage infrastructure and could possibly cause considerable dollars in ecological and infrastructure damage. The rumors of procurement of the S-300PMU-1 (SA-20A GARGOYLE) by Azerbaijan would give them [anti-tactical ballistic missile] capability against the R-17, though those talks have only been rumors so far.

This was apparently written before the recent military parade in Baku, in which Azerbaijan's S-300 acquisition was confirmed. Since that fills the largest apparent gap in Azerbaijan's air defense system, they seem well covered now.

Of course, this would only come into play if Armenia decided to widen a war, started by Azerbaijan to recover Karabakh, into Azerbaijan proper. And the Armenians' air defense systems are probably still too potent for Azerbaijan to successfully attack. This is the third, and presumably final, installment in IMINT &Analysis's series on the air defense implications of a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. One earlier report from the same analysts reported approvingly on Karabakh's air defense:

In a modern context, the network represents a limited threat to current combat aircraft, but the air arm of Azerbaijan relies primarily on a limited number of Soviet-era combat aircraft, the exception being recent
MiG-29 (FULCRUM) fighters delivered via the Ukraine. In this light, particularly given the lack of a high-intensity air war at any point during the conflict, the SAM systems deployed in and around Nagorno-Karabakh remain a deterrent to future aggression.

And another report identified some gaps in Armenia's coverage:

Overall Armenia’s air defence seems to be robust given the nature of the threat it faces and the systems on hand. Compared to Syria, whose overlapping [surface-to-air missile] coverage relies on legacy S-75 and S-125 batteries, Armenia SAM capability is more sophisticated against [tactical ballistic missiles], cruise missiles and modern fighter aircraft. Compared to Iran, it does not have sizeable gaps to provide aircraft with [electronic countermeasures] packages to move freely. The small size of the nation provides an advantage to the deployed assets. In a true modern context with an unlimited strike package, Armenia’s air defence can be oversaturated. With over 500 modern aircraft in the Turkish air force inventory and the limited scope of the S-300PT against a salvo of modern cruise missiles it will have it shortfalls. Armenia will be forced to be content with the losses it would inflict on the enemy, as only a very strong modern ECM package might just disrupt some of it guidance of missiles. Armenia will still have opportunity to provide losses to the enemy with Russian S-300V1 and Armenian S-300P-series systems.

Modernization should be a must for Armenia as this will inevitably help Armenia provide itself with a modern SAM network not reliant on Russian support. Various modern SAM upgrades will significantly improve its
coverage.

Of course, a Turkish air attack on Armenia is pretty hard to imagine. The report does note that eastern Armenia is not well covered by SAM systems, and thus could be vulnerable to Azerbaijani air attack. That, though, would widen the war more than Azerbaijan may want. An attack on Armenia proper could trigger the Collective Security Treaty Organization's collective defense provision, and bring Russia and other CSTO members into the fight. Would Azerbaijan want to take that risk?

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/63989

[Mher]

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Sunday, June 2, 2013
Azeri Favorit Located

In July of 2010, various media reports indicated that Russia was completing a sale of S-300PMU-2 Favorit (SA-20B GARGOYLE) SAM systems to Azerbaijan. Something of an uproar ensued, with Russia and Azerbaijan denying the sale and Armenia expressing its displeasure. Then, in June of 2011, two S-300PMU-2 TELs appeared in an Azeri military parade in Baku. Clearly the sale had gone through, despite the denials from all parties involved.

Now, following an imagery update in May of 2013, the location of Azerbaijan's Favorit SAM systems can be disclosed. Sited on the coastline northwest of Sumgait, the Favorit batteries appear sited to defend the capital area. The 200 kilometer range of the Favorit's 48N6E2 (GARGOYLE mod 1) interceptor also provides the system with a degree of capability over western Azerbaijan, although the Nagorno-Karabakh region remains just out of reach.


Azerbaijan deploys two Favorit batteries and a single battle management complex. Each battery possesses a 30N6E2 (TOMB STONE) engagement radar and a 96L6E acquisition radar, with four 5P85TE2 TELs. The northern battery also possesses two 40V6 series mast assemblies adjacent to the two radar systems. The central position employs the 64N6E2 (BIG BIRD D) battle management radar.

The southern site is emplaced on a reprofiled former S-75 (SA-2 GUIDELINE) position, with the northern site emplaced on a newly built semi-hardened position. The site buildup suggests a permanent deployment location. However, the mobility of the S-300PMU-2 allows it to redeploy in a very short period of time.

The S-300PMU-2 represents the most advanced SAM system in the region, and is easily the most capable air defense system in the Azerbaijani inventory. The 200 kilometer engagement range is supported by 300 kilometer range surveillance and tracking capability from the associated 64N6E2 and 96L6E radars, systems capable of monitoring the bulk of both Azerbaijan and Nagorno-Karabakh. The six target engagement capability of the system, effectively doubled by deploying two batteries, effectively negates any aerial threat posed by the Armenian military. Furthermore, the ATBM capability of the system removes Soviet-era SCUD missiles from the threat picture.

With the deployment of the S-300PMU-2, Azerbaijan has taken a significant step to upgrading its air defense capability. The ability of the Favorit, coupled with the state of the Armenian military, significantly reduces the threat of an armed conflict between the two nations in the future, or at the very least enables Azerbaijan to remove the Armenian air and missile threat from the equation.

http://geimint.blogspot.com/search?q=Karabakh

[Mher]

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http://geimint.blogspot.com/

use the search tool in upper left, and you can get quite a bit of important information.

[argin]

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Analysis: Azerbaijan, Karabakh Well-Protected Against Air Attack; Armenia Less So
August 2, 2011 - 5:22pm, by Joshua Kucera

Analysis: Azerbaijan, Karabakh Well-Protected Against Air Attack; Armenia Less So


Militaries in the former USSR are among the most secretive in the world, but our new information age is creating some opportunities to peek behind the curtain a bit. One of my favorite examples is the open-source military analysis by the folks at IMINT & Analysis, who pore over Google Earth satellite imagery of air defense systems and try to come to some conclusions. In the most recent issue of their newsletter (subscription only, but free, viewable as a Google Doc here) they look at Azerbaijan's systems, and the news isn't good for Armenia. After looking at the various systems Azerbaijan has, they conclude:

This well organised overlapping [air defense] system will deny Armenia any chance of sorties within Azerbaijan’s territory along the Nagorno Karabagh border. Its air force will cover the gaps for the protection for the rest of the nation if Armenia takes desperate measures to inflict extra losses. For the time being Armenia’s limited air arm provides no real threat for any strikes within Azeri territory, the only threat being the R-17 [Scud missiles].

The Scud missiles could be used in an attack on Baku's oil infrastructure, the analysis continues:

Baku’s main concern is Armenia’s R-17 (SCUD) [short-range ballistic missile] inventory. The major powers all have interest in this oil rich area and currently American interests have helped develop part of Azerbaijan’s navy with radars, military supervision and many joint military exercises. Armenia’s limited number of ballistic missiles will only strike Azerbaijan with psychological damage as the accuracy (CEP) will be a limiting factor and cannot guarantee the total destruction of the oil fields. A barrage of semi accurate strikes on the oil fields might damage infrastructure and could possibly cause considerable dollars in ecological and infrastructure damage. The rumors of procurement of the S-300PMU-1 (SA-20A GARGOYLE) by Azerbaijan would give them [anti-tactical ballistic missile] capability against the R-17, though those talks have only been rumors so far.

This was apparently written before the recent military parade in Baku, in which Azerbaijan's S-300 acquisition was confirmed. Since that fills the largest apparent gap in Azerbaijan's air defense system, they seem well covered now.

Of course, this would only come into play if Armenia decided to widen a war, started by Azerbaijan to recover Karabakh, into Azerbaijan proper. And the Armenians' air defense systems are probably still too potent for Azerbaijan to successfully attack. This is the third, and presumably final, installment in IMINT &Analysis's series on the air defense implications of a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan. One earlier report from the same analysts reported approvingly on Karabakh's air defense:

In a modern context, the network represents a limited threat to current combat aircraft, but the air arm of Azerbaijan relies primarily on a limited number of Soviet-era combat aircraft, the exception being recent
MiG-29 (FULCRUM) fighters delivered via the Ukraine. In this light, particularly given the lack of a high-intensity air war at any point during the conflict, the SAM systems deployed in and around Nagorno-Karabakh remain a deterrent to future aggression.

And another report identified some gaps in Armenia's coverage:

Overall Armenia’s air defence seems to be robust given the nature of the threat it faces and the systems on hand. Compared to Syria, whose overlapping [surface-to-air missile] coverage relies on legacy S-75 and S-125 batteries, Armenia SAM capability is more sophisticated against [tactical ballistic missiles], cruise missiles and modern fighter aircraft. Compared to Iran, it does not have sizeable gaps to provide aircraft with [electronic countermeasures] packages to move freely. The small size of the nation provides an advantage to the deployed assets. In a true modern context with an unlimited strike package, Armenia’s air defence can be oversaturated. With over 500 modern aircraft in the Turkish air force inventory and the limited scope of the S-300PT against a salvo of modern cruise missiles it will have it shortfalls. Armenia will be forced to be content with the losses it would inflict on the enemy, as only a very strong modern ECM package might just disrupt some of it guidance of missiles. Armenia will still have opportunity to provide losses to the enemy with Russian S-300V1 and Armenian S-300P-series systems.

Modernization should be a must for Armenia as this will inevitably help Armenia provide itself with a modern SAM network not reliant on Russian support. Various modern SAM upgrades will significantly improve its
coverage.

Of course, a Turkish air attack on Armenia is pretty hard to imagine. The report does note that eastern Armenia is not well covered by SAM systems, and thus could be vulnerable to Azerbaijani air attack. That, though, would widen the war more than Azerbaijan may want. An attack on Armenia proper could trigger the Collective Security Treaty Organization's collective defense provision, and bring Russia and other CSTO members into the fight. Would Azerbaijan want to take that risk?

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/63989

Not to doubt the enemy here but this guy only based he's point on google map and the recent azer military parade but as we all know that shouldn't be the case,we all have weapons we don't show +we can have hidden it professionally like we can see in some of pics posted here earlier