Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Some of you are drinking lion milk today. The comparison between ISIS and us is pretty retarded actually. The people in Iraq and some parts of Syria welcomed ISIS without any resistance because they were sick of those regimes. No one is going to welcome us into Azerbadjan. The argument that since we cannot 100% control the present border then we might as well make a much larger border is also extremely flawed. Armenia has been doing well in protecting its border for decades and it is this recent escalation that has allowed them to penetrate from new positions. These new positions can be closed and our defenses can be improved and the Azeris cannot maintain this level of aggression. You guys also ignore the fact that neither Turkey nor Russia, nor Iran, nor USA are going to stand by and let this happen. This is not the same Azeri army we faced last time, it has way more weapons and some training to. We have been defending for a long time but defending is different then attacking. We need different weapons, we need different tactics, we need way more men...you guys smokin some bad weed today.

[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Some of you are drinking lion milk today. The comparison between ISIS and us is pretty retarded actually. The people in Iraq and some parts of Syria welcomed ISIS without any resistance because they were sick of those regimes. No one is going to welcome us into Azerbadjan. The argument that since we cannot 100% control the present border then we might as well make a much larger border is also extremely flawed. Armenia has been doing well in protecting its border for decades and it is this recent escalation that has allowed them to penetrate from new positions. These new positions can be closed and our defenses can be improved and the Azeris cannot maintain this level of aggression. You guys also ignore the fact that neither Turkey nor Russia, nor Iran, nor USA are going to stand by and let this happen. This is not the same Azeri army we faced last time, it has way more weapons and some training to. We have been defending for a long time but defending is different then attacking. We need different weapons, we need different tactics, we need way more men...you guys smokin some bad weed today.

Disagree.
Retarded --- mmm
Some welcomed isis, but many places they've went there was no welcome & they did exactly as Hakob described.
Lions milk? No. Common sense is a more apt discription.
The Armenian highlands are the highest land, and from there it drops in elevation in all directions.
A buffer makes perfect sense considering those to our east. It's more mountains inhibiting them from attacking us or it's broad downward slopping land that cannot be approached without the penalty of visibility.
Of course a larger army (high diaspora) would be of great benefit. However, if war braks out and the opportunity to --- RETAKE (not take) our (OUR) stolen land presents itself, it would be lol retarded not to do so.
The right physical/spacial distancing of them from the populated ancestral homeland (not that all the way to the Caspian isn't ancestral) could and can be defended with the right mix of weaponry and resolve by us now and with a modest amount larger army done even better.
They are way to close to Tavush.
An relatively empty buffer actually sounds ideal, all things considered.

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Some of you are drinking lion milk today. The comparison between ISIS and us is pretty retarded actually. The people in Iraq and some parts of Syria welcomed ISIS without any resistance because they were sick of those regimes. No one is going to welcome us into Azerbadjan. The argument that since we cannot 100% control the present border then we might as well make a much larger border is also extremely flawed. Armenia has been doing well in protecting its border for decades and it is this recent escalation that has allowed them to penetrate from new positions. These new positions can be closed and our defenses can be improved and the Azeris cannot maintain this level of aggression. You guys also ignore the fact that neither Turkey nor Russia, nor Iran, nor USA are going to stand by and let this happen. This is not the same Azeri army we faced last time, it has way more weapons and some training to. We have been defending for a long time but defending is different then attacking. We need different weapons, we need different tactics, we need way more men...you guys smokin some bad weed today.

I think you missed my point.
Like I said, any expansion north from Tavush and towards Gandzak makes our border much shorter and easier to defend. It will not be much larger, but much shorter for about 3 times. Look the map. Next to reservoir, it will be impenetrateble by water.
I also am not comparing us to ISIS, but their strategy makes sence. If you compare Iraq to Azerbaijan, US has spent over 60 billon on equiping and training Iraqi army in past 3 years alone. Iraq has 900000 security forces among them 200000 "elite" US trained army. But that does not stop the 7000 strong ISIS wrecking havoc there. Now ISIS is operating way past it's supporing population and without slowing down. There must be a good strategy involved in here.
Also, looking at what is happening around in middle east, nobody can guarantee what any of the powers you mentioned will do. In war, new sircumstances may appear that can make our advancement very real and unhindered. US, Turkish plan was to destroy Syria, but it backfired on their face in Iraq.
Also I think, Azerbaijanis can never compare to over 34 years battle hardened Iraqi population.
24 Years ago, if somebody said that we not only would liberate Artsakh, But also as big of a territory surrounding it, lot of people would think that this guy is crazy. Look what happened?

[Eddo211]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

The road to Western Armenia is through the East......fragment Azerbaijan, liberate the minorities, grow Armenia strong, then Western Armenia can be considered.

[Federate]

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[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Decided to record a bit while having some fun.
Unfortunately, I couldnt install the Armenian Armed Forces mod D:
I did however, have several mods that kinda...make things harder when flying...The only reason I had them on was because they included T72Bs with ERA armor which are just fantastic

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

LOL. I wish we could have the picture of this meeting around table after offical news cameras were turned off.

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Armenian Army
Front line on the North-East

[Eddo211]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Decided to record a bit while having some fun.
Unfortunately, I couldnt install the Armenian Armed Forces mod D:
I did however, have several mods that kinda...make things harder when flying...The only reason I had them on was because they included T72Bs with ERA armor which are just fantastic

Thats really cool and realistic.

on your scraping runs I suggest to keep your bank angle no more than 15 degrees when firing and light pressure on ailerons, also if you have rudder control in your game use it is to stay on target while the wing is banked (left bank right rudder/right bank left rudder), little up elevator (to control speed), power lever adjust to maintain altitude. This is called slip but you maintain altitude in this case. This will give you more time on target. Anyway this works in a real life aerodynamics and you don't have the seat of the pants feeling or experience any G forces.

stay easy and smooth on the controls.

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Thats really cool and realistic.

on your scraping runs I suggest to keep your bank angle no more than 15 degrees when firing and light pressure on ailerons, also if you have rudder control in your game use it is to stay on target while the wing is banked (left bank right rudder/right bank left rudder), little up elevator (to control speed), power lever adjust to maintain altitude. This is called slip but you maintain altitude in this case. This will give you more time on target. Anyway this works in a real life aerodynamics and you don't have the seat of the pants feeling or experience any G forces.

stay easy and smooth on the controls.

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately, this simulator is more infantry/ground oriented and does not give you full controls over all the rudders, there is a much more realistic, jet oriented, combat sim called DCS World. The mods I had enabled kept me from actually flying properly. As it forces you to bleed speed twice as fast when making maneuvers. I wanted to disable them, but the S-8 rocket sounds were just..way too cool... Funny, this mod actually disabled FAB-250 locking and disabled drop on my Gsh 30mm. (The vanilla (Original version) game has insane drop...You would have to compensate like crazy and YOU STILL wouldnt penetrate tank armor. At the end of the vid I gave up on that last T-72B and just left. My cannon was just not getting through for some reason. The A10's cannon however...destroys T90s in just a small burst.)