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  • #17021
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    South Africa Under Fire For Arming Turkmenistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan

    September 15, 2014 - 5:14pm, by Joshua Kucera The Bug Pit

    The government of South Africa is facing criticism for allowing arms exports to Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan.

    South Africa's National Conventional Arms Control Committee has recently released reports detailing the country's weapons exports over the past three years. MP David Maynier, the country's shadow defense minister, has in the past criticized the government for arming Iran, Libya, Zimbabwe and North Korea; now he has set his sights on post-Soviet countries.

    In the case of Turkmenistan, South Africa allowed the export of 50 sniper rifles earlier this year. Maynier said that such a sale would seem to violate South Africa's law requiring companies to "avoid transfers of conventional arms to governments that systematically violate or suppress human rights and fundamental freedoms." On similar grounds, he objected to two airborne observation stations being sold to Russia.

    And in 2012, South African companies sold sniper rifles and ammunition to Azerbaijan, and submachine guns to Armenia. That would seem to violate South African laws requiring companies to "avoid transfers of conventional arms that are likely to contribute to the escalation of regional military conflicts, endanger peace by introducing destabilizing military capabilities into a region or otherwise contribute to regional instability."

    "We have to be absolutely sure that South Africa is not contributing to regional instability by selling conventional arms that are being used in the Nagorno-Karabakh region or on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia," Maynier said in a statement.

    South Africa's arms deals with Azerbaijan have hardly been a secret, and go well beyond these sniper rifles. The company Paramount Group has been producing armored vehicles jointly with Azerbaijan since 2009, and just last week signed an agreement to set up helicopter upgrade work in Azerbaijan.

    There seems to have been no comment yet from the Committee.

    Just a moment...
    http://www.eurasianet.org/node/70001


    EDIT: Says in the following link that they sold 100 submachine guns to Armenia and 40 sniper rifles to Azerbaijan. http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...tail&pid=71616
    Last edited by Federate; 09-15-2014, 05:05 PM.
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    • #17022
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Federate View Post
      South Africa Under Fire For Arming Turkmenistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan

      September 15, 2014 - 5:14pm, by Joshua Kucera The Bug Pit

      The government of South Africa is facing criticism for allowing arms exports to Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Turkmenistan.

      South Africa's National Conventional Arms Control Committee has recently released reports detailing the country's weapons exports over the past three years. MP David Maynier, the country's shadow defense minister, has in the past criticized the government for arming Iran, Libya, Zimbabwe and North Korea; now he has set his sights on post-Soviet countries.

      In the case of Turkmenistan, South Africa allowed the export of 50 sniper rifles earlier this year. Maynier said that such a sale would seem to violate South Africa's law requiring companies to "avoid transfers of conventional arms to governments that systematically violate or suppress human rights and fundamental freedoms." On similar grounds, he objected to two airborne observation stations being sold to Russia.

      And in 2012, South African companies sold sniper rifles and ammunition to Azerbaijan, and submachine guns to Armenia. That would seem to violate South African laws requiring companies to "avoid transfers of conventional arms that are likely to contribute to the escalation of regional military conflicts, endanger peace by introducing destabilizing military capabilities into a region or otherwise contribute to regional instability."

      "We have to be absolutely sure that South Africa is not contributing to regional instability by selling conventional arms that are being used in the Nagorno-Karabakh region or on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia," Maynier said in a statement.

      South Africa's arms deals with Azerbaijan have hardly been a secret, and go well beyond these sniper rifles. The company Paramount Group has been producing armored vehicles jointly with Azerbaijan since 2009, and just last week signed an agreement to set up helicopter upgrade work in Azerbaijan.

      There seems to have been no comment yet from the Committee.

      Just a moment...
      http://www.eurasianet.org/node/70001


      EDIT: Says in the following link that they sold 100 submachine guns to Armenia and 40 sniper rifles to Azerbaijan. http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politic...tail&pid=71616

      Under fire for selling 100 sub-machine guns? Thats hardly significant. Arming Turkmenistan however...Well thats like sending missiles to North Korea, they are just insane.


      Well, at least we got 100 sub-machine guns. I would assume that would go straight to the Special Forces armory..less goodies for the infantry



      I was digging through the thread, and I noticed Hyefighter pointed this out a while ago. These helmets do not look Russian, Soviet, and Western. Are we producing our own helmets, and body armor? While many of the other helmets in this photo are slowly being phased out, we are seeing the selected helmet becoming more and more common





      In this video, credit to Arshak Zakaryan, we see the same kind of helmet???



      I think we are seeing the modernization kicking in, infantry wise. Infantry equipment quality has increased along with moral and motivation, but can anyone ID these helmets?
      Last edited by Chubs; 09-15-2014, 07:48 PM.
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      • #17023
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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        • #17024
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport






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            • #17026
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Command staff exercises of the Armenian police took place at “Arzni” airport






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              • #17027
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                any ideas what those submachineguns from Africa can be? we also have African made large cal. Sniper rifles.

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                • #17028
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
                  any ideas what those submachineguns from Africa can be? we also have African made large cal. Sniper rifles.
                  Could be the Sanna 77, although since South Africa uses alot of Western weapons it could be something of European origin.
                  Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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                  • #17029
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Armenian Air Defence

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                    • #17030
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Chubs View Post
                      Could be the Sanna 77, although since South Africa uses alot of Western weapons it could be something of European origin.
                      since we have modern stuff like AEK submachine guns, i don't think we would go so long to Africa to buy that old stuff... so yes maybe European or US made submachine guns

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