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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Did we really upgrade our BTR-70s?

    BTR-70 armoured troop carriers that have been extensively modernized:
    - 14.5mm machine gun replaced by a 23 mm
    - Completely redone rear of the vehicle and adapted a different engine.
    Hve we modernized them?



    Here is a list I found on the net, of Armenian military vehicles

    T-80 tanks (20)
    T-72 tanks (160)
    T-54 tanks (80)
    BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles (57)
    BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles (80)
    BRM-1K infantry fighting vehicles (22)
    BTR-80 armored personnel carriers (50)
    BTR-70 armored personnel carriers (21)
    BTR-60 armored personnel carriers (25)
    BTR-60 “look-a-likes” (100) (What the hell does this mean?)
    MT-LB armored personnel carriers (145)
    BRDM-2 armored reconnaissance vehicles (120)
    GAZ-2975 Tigr 4x4 wheeled utility vehicles.

    BM-30 Smerch multiple rocket launchers
    WM-80 Chinese made 273mm multiple rocket launchers (6)

    9A51 “Prima” 50 tube 122mm multiple rocket launcher on a Ural 4320 truck.
    N-2 multiple rocket launchers. Armenian made.
    Last edited by Chubs; 09-19-2014, 11:51 AM.
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        there is no point to buy large number of BMP3 like azeris did, i case u want to replace BMP1/2. How i already said we operate some, but we will upgrade our BMP1/2

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          Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
          there is no point to buy large number of BMP3 like azeris did, i case u want to replace BMP1/2. How i already said we operate some, but we will upgrade our BMP1/2
          Upgrade to what exactly? All we can do is add new side armor with ERA and some new targeting and optical systems. I doubt we are even considering that



          The 'extensive modernization of Azerbaijan's T-72s' is actually proposed upgrades to BMPT Terminator 2 IFVs. This is trouble.


          The T-90S tank supply contract is underway. We haven't yet delivered the complete lot. We've fulfilled the agreement roughly to 60%. The deliveries are scheduled for completion in the first quarter of 2015. We've signed a contract with the Azerbaijani Defence Ministry for 100 T-90S tanks and complete the contract without pondering any new options or supplies," Topayev said.

          In package with the tanks, Baku purchased BREM-1M armoured recovery and technical maintenance and T-90 tank-based IMR-3M counter-obstacle vehicles. As a complement to mounts and MLRS launchers, it acquires all the machines needed for maintenance and fire control. In doing so, Baku bought the latest and most advanced configuration of the T-90S, including a new model of the Shtora optronic suppression system, air conditioning, and target tracking devices. The package of contracts is estimated to be worth USD3.4 billion.


          Rosoboronexport proposed an in-depth modernisation of Azerbaijan's T-72 tanks to the Fire Support Combat Vehicle configuration. "We demonstrated the Uralvagonzavod products to the Azerbaijani president on the static site. On examining the Terminator BMPT-72 tank support vehicle we proposed, taking into account a fairly large fleet of T-72 tanks, to thoroughly upgrade them to the BMPT level and to consider further versions of their modernisation," Topoyev said.
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          Azerbaijan Is Arming Up Amid Territorial Dispute With Armenia
          With a complicated security environment, Azerbaijan is holding its first defense exhibition and has received a new delivery of missile systems.



          YEREVAN—Armenia’s armed forces will soon purchase new long-range weapons, Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian said Friday during a meeting with professors and students at the Yerevan State University of Economics.
          However, speaking to reporters, Ohanian declined to specify what weapons will be bought, citing it as “a military secret.”
          “Day by day we are enhancing defense and technical cooperation, in particular with our strategic partners, namely Russia, and are updating our weapons,” he said.
          Asked about the sale of Russian arms to Azerbaijan, the minister said that everything regarding development of defense capabilities of the neighboring state is always the focus of the Armenian side.
          “We have expressed our point of view and our concerns in all platforms,” he emphasized.


          I am assuming this and this:

          Means that we are going to be recieving new MLRS or ballistic missiles along with more reforms and weapons? We are gonna need it...


          Armenia enhances military capacity – Minister

          Armenia’s military equipment and armament is in experienced hands – in the hands of our soldiers, Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan said at a meeting with faculty and students of Yerevan State University.

          The Minister stressed that Armenia is modernizing its military equipment. He said that Armenia has long-range and precise military equipment in its arsenal, and has reached an agreement to enhance its military capacity.

          Speaking about social protection programs for servicemen, the official said that these programs are implemented in accordance with government decisions. In particular, he said, they will gradually raise salaries of servicemen. Besides, they implement apartment construction program for soldiers.
          Last edited by Chubs; 09-19-2014, 02:14 PM.
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            Azerbaboon can get as much weapons as they want, but they'll never have the courage, thinking ability, and strength of the Armenians. Although it would be nice to get new weapons once in a while.

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              Originally posted by burjuin View Post


              Ha Ha Ha
              I love this cartoons by Sahakiants family. Best anti azeri propaganda. Besides being very funny, it gets azeris insanely angry and frustrated to level of incoherent froathing in their mouths in youtube.

              Tochka UUUUFFF. Ha Ha Ha
              Last edited by Hakob; 09-19-2014, 07:22 PM.

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                Guys..all jokes aside..has anyone calculated the consequences of a possible Armenian strike on Mingachevir reservoire? I am not talking about the political consequences of course..those would be devastating...but seriously...if Armenia strikes the reservoire..what are we talking about in terms of civilian and material damages to Azerbaijan, except being deprived of electric power. Does anyone have an accurate estimate or analysis?

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                  Armenian peacekeepers in Kosovo






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                    Originally posted by ArmeniaSacra View Post
                    Guys..all jokes aside..has anyone calculated the consequences of a possible Armenian strike on Mingachevir reservoire? I am not talking about the political consequences of course..those would be devastating...but seriously...if Armenia strikes the reservoire..what are we talking about in terms of civilian and material damages to Azerbaijan, except being deprived of electric power. Does anyone have an accurate estimate or analysis?



                    The reservoir was built on a section of Kura River flowing through Mount Bo.zdağ in 1953.
                    The filling capacity of the reservoir is 83 m (272 ft) whereas the volume is 15.73 km³.
                    It has been filled to its maximum levels in 1959, 1963, 1968, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1988 and 2010.
                    The length is 70 km (43 mi) and width is 18 km (11 mi). Maximum depth is 75 m (246 ft), average depth - 26 m (85 ft).
                    The length along the shoreline is 247 km (153 mi), the overall area is 605 km2 (234 sq mi).
                    The largest hydroelectric power station of Azerbaijan is located on the reservoir. Mingachevir Hydro Power Plant has an installed electric capacity of 401.6 megawatts.
                    The length of the hydroelectric dam is 1,550 m (5,090 ft), its width is 16 m (52 ft) and height is 80 m (260 ft).

                    The reservoir supplies water to Upper Karabakh and Upper Shirvan channels. It is also a source for fishing, water supplies and irrigation.

                    If you look at the volume of water and low lying lands gives an idea of to be flooded areas. Towns, villages, agricultural land etc.

                    The region will revert to being a marshland, paradise for the wildlife !!.

                    Mingechur is an A-bomb sitting in the armoury of Azerbaijan which can only be used against Azerbaijan.

                    Armenia unlikely to explode this A-bomb except as a last resort.

                    Oil related targets would be first which can also act as blackmail towards oil companies etc to inhibit the Sultan starting a major war.

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                    Last edited by londontsi; 09-20-2014, 02:30 AM.
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                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
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                      Զինվորական ավտոմեքենայի վթարի հետևանքով ՀՀ ՊՆ զինծառայող է զոհվել
                      Սեպտեմբեր 20, 2014

                      Սեպտեմբերի 19-ին ժամը 17:00-ի սահմաններում ՀՀ ՊՆ զորամասերից մեկի «Գազ-66» մակնիշի ավտոմեքենան` նույն զորամասի զինծառայողների ստորաբաժանումը մշտական տեղակայման վայր տեղափոխելու ճանապարհին՝ Տավուշի մարզի Արծվաբերդ գյուղի մոտակայքում, դուրս է եկել ճանապարհի երթևեկելի մասից և գլորվել ձորը, ինչի հետևանքով մեքենան վարող կապիտան Պավլիկ Նիկոլայի Մանուկյանը գլխի շրջանում ստացած վնասվածքից տեղում մահացել է:

                      Մեքենայի ուղևորներ՝ զինծառայողներ, ավագ լեյտենանտ Հարություն Վարդանի Խաչատրյանը, լեյտենանտ Արմեն Սիսակի Հովսեփյանը, կրտսեր սերժանտներ Գրիշա Վարդանի Գրիգորյանը, Նարեկ Սամվելի Միրզոյանը, Մհեր Սամվելի Վարդանյանը, սերժանտ Բորիս Վիգենի Թունյանը, շարքայիններ Տիգրան Արմենի Օհանյանը, Ավետիք Արայիկի Նազարյանը, Արտյոմ Մանվելի Աբրահամյանը, Աշոտ Արմենի Սարգսյանը, Մուրազ Ժորայի Սադոյանը, Վարդգես Արսենի Խաչատրյանը կյանքին վտանգ չսպառնացող տարբեր աստիճանի մարմնական վնասվածքներով տեղափոխվել են Բերդի զինվորական հոսպիտալ: Վերջիններիս վիճակը գնահատվում է բավարար:

                      Դեպքի առթիվ ՀՀ քննչական կոմիտեի զինվորական քննչական գլխավոր վարչությունում նախապատրաստվում են նյութեր, տեղեկացնում է ՀՀ ՊՆ մամուլի ծառայությունը:

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