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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    As reported earlier this year, we bought 35 T-72 & 110 BTR-80 from Russia. The variants are not specified but they belonged to the Russian Army so they're not sketchy export models. We paid $50 million for the T-72 ($1.4 mln per tank) and $30 million for the BTR-80 ($270,000 per BTR). Thoughts?

    Զեկույց. Հայաստանը 2012-13թթ. գնել է Տ-72 տանկեր ու ԲՏՌ-80 զրահափոխադրիչներ

    2013 թվականին Ռուսաստանը Հայաստանի զինված ուժերին է մատակարարել 35 միավոր Տ-72 տանկ, որոնք մինչ այդ օգտագործվել են ռուսաստանյան զինված ուժերում։ Ս.թ. հունիսին Ռազմինֆոն արդեն հայտնել էր այս մասին՝ հիմնվելով ՄԱԿ-ի սովորական սպառազինությունների ռեգիստրի տվյալների վրա, սակայն առանց մանրամասների: Այժմ այս տեղեկությունը՝ լրացուցիչ մանրամասներով, հաստատվել է ռուսաստանյան «Զենքի համաշխարհային առևտրի վերլուծության կենտրոնի» հրապարակած զեկույցում:

    Կազմակերպության զեկույցի համաձայն՝ տանկերի մատակարարման վերաբերյալ Հայաստանն ու Ռուսաստանը պայմանավորվել են 2012 թվականին, իսկ մատակարարումն իրականացվել է 2013թ.: Կենտրոնի գնահատմամբ՝ հայկական կողմը գնել է տանկերը մոտավորապես 50 մլն ԱՄՆ դոլարով (1,4 մլն դոլար մեկ միավորի համար):

    Զեկույցի տվյալներով՝ նույն 2012թ. Հայաստանը Ռուսաստանից գնել է նաև 110 միավոր ԲՏՌ-80 զրահափոխադրիչ, որոնք նույնպես մինչ այդ կիրառվել էին ռուսաստանյան զինված ուժերում: Այս մասին նույնպես մինչ այս հայտնի էր ՄԱԿ-ի սովորական սպառազինությունների զեկույցից, բայց առանց մանրամասների:

    Զրահափոխարդիչների մատակարարումը նույնպես կատարվել է 2013թ., իսկ դրանց համար հայկական կողմը, աղբյուրի գնահատականներով, վճարել է մոտ 30 մլն դոլար (մոտ 270 հազար դոլար մեկ միավորի համար):

    Ավելացնենք, որ հայկական զինված ուժերի տանկային սպառազինության հիմնական մասը հենց Տ-72 տանկերն են: Ռազմինֆոյի գնահատականով հայկական զինված ուժերում (ներառյալ Պաշտպանության բանակը) մինչ այդ կար այս տիպի 530-540 միավոր տանկ:

    Ինչ վերաբերում է ԲՏՌ-80 զրահափոխադրիչներին, ապա դրանք համեմատաբար նորություն են, քանի որ մինչ այդ դրանցից հայկական զինված ուժերում, ըստ Military Balance-2014 զեկույցի, եղել է ընդամենը մի քանի հատ: Հայկական բանակում հիմնականում կիրառվել են նույն ընտանիքի ավելի վաղ արտադրված ԲՏՌ-60 ու ԲՏՌ-70 զրահափոխադրիչներ:

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      General Movses Hakobyan says Azeris used a Strela to down the helicopter. http://asbarez.com/128982/helicopter...-made-weapons/
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          President's bodyguard is armed with silenced Austrian Steyr TMP.


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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            As reported earlier this year, we bought 35 T-72 & 110 BTR-80 from Russia. The variants are not specified but they belonged to the Russian Army so they're not sketchy export models. We paid $50 million for the T-72 ($1.4 mln per tank) and $30 million for the BTR-80 ($270,000 per BTR). Thoughts?
            The cost of the t-72 is listed as 1-2 million dollars, so it doesn't seem to be at a discount

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              I really want to know the variants for those BTR-80s and T72s...

              Praying its BTR-80As and T72BUs...but a boy can only dream correct?

              In the armstrade PDF, what the hell does the asterix mean when put next to numbers?
              Last edited by Chubs; 11-19-2014, 10:36 AM.
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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Mher View Post
                The cost of the t-72 is listed as 1-2 million dollars, so it doesn't seem to be at a discount
                Hmmm, that might be the cost of making a T-72 and not the price at which Russians sell it for. Or perhaps these T-72 variants are expensive modernized variants since they were made & operated by Russian Army. Still though, not sure what to make of it exactly.
                Originally posted by Chubs View Post
                I really want to know the variants for those BTR-80s and T72s...

                Praying its BTR-80As and T72BUs...but a boy can only dream correct?

                In the armstrade PDF, what the hell does the asterix mean when put next to numbers?
                In the number column, it means it's a modernization/upgrade of things we already have. In the price section, it means the price is an estimate.
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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Chubs View Post
                  I really want to know the variants for those BTR-80s and T72s...

                  Praying its BTR-80As and T72BUs...but a boy can only dream correct?

                  In the armstrade PDF, what the hell does the asterix mean when put next to numbers?
                  hey can you post the pdf article you're referring to?

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    Hmmm, that might be the cost of making a T-72 and not the price at which Russians sell it for. Or perhaps these T-72 variants are expensive modernized variants since they were made & operated by Russian Army. Still though, not sure what to make of it exactly.

                    In the number column, it means it's a modernization/upgrade of things we already have. In the price section, it means the price is an estimate.
                    For the BMP-2s, is that 50 modernized or 100 modernized? Its hard to read


                    Check out the hotshot that shot down the helicopter,







                    hey can you post the pdf article you're referring to?
                    Its at the top of the page lol: http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf
                    Last edited by Chubs; 11-19-2014, 11:46 AM.
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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Chubs View Post
                      For the BMP-2s, is that 50 modernized or 100 modernized? Its hard to read


                      Check out the hotshot that shot down the helicopter,









                      Its at the top of the page lol: http://armstrade.org/files/obrazecglava4.pdf
                      thank you
                      these people make themselves out to be a joke. I would expect something like that in armenian satirical article pretending to be from Azerbaijan. They make it so blatantly obvious from their celebrations of undeserving individuals that they have no actual heroes worth celebrating. congratulations on your conquest of an unarmed unexpecting helicopter. I cant wait to see that queer looking homo running away when he has to face actual battle.

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