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  • #17791
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    With respect, this is not in UK, and there are lots of things the public cries out tere that has no meaning worldwide or is a direct result of western brainwash.
    When that public is utterly unaware and silent in face of horrors that their government and allies or sponsored militias commit against humans in Israel, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine and elsewhere, then it can stay in horror at killing rabits as much as it wants. LOL
    I bet if any of western special ops showed their soldiers tearing and eating live animals (which, I assure you they too train for, like our's do), it would have been seen as very normal for lot of people here. Actually it would have been welcomed as a modern military necessity.
    But, as I sayd, If the official PR in UK is so sucessfull as to keep it's public blind or unaware what really is their military trained for and doing(don't tear rabbits, just protect and "spread democracy around the world". HA HA HA) is their problem. Not our standard.
    This PR is for Armenia and is done by Armenians.
    From the comments here three reasons or messages that these actions could demonstrate.

    that its “ceremonial”

    that it shows toughness

    I would suggest the third one as living off the land which is more meaningful reason.

    Brainwashed or not the first two are not convincing for my brain, washed or unwashed.
    It might impress little school kids but I do not see anything tough about it.

    It could arguably demonstrate ability to live off the land.
    Redirect Notice
    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgonzoj.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2Fsas-survival-handbook-revised-edition.pdf&ei=Ub17VJhxopjuBuO8gcgG&usg=AFQjCNGitsStQog-1Z_DCio9Z0DwhcqsQA&sig2=I_z7KgbbITHpOheb8u-oJA&bvm=bv.80642063,d.d2s&cad=rjt


    Hagop like any country the British are proud of their army. The media through PR maintains that.
    This is normal or common within any country.
    However recently there have been numerous cases where army personnel have been identified for breaking the Geneva convention and faced the law.
    These disclosures have dented the image of the army as well as highlighting the futility of these misadventures.
    It is a pity that Tony Blair has not been charged also.
    There is a strong voice in the population which is against joining the American adventurism in conquering the world.

    When you describe somebody or some people as brainwashed there is substance in that.
    The reason is because everybody is brainwash subliminally while living in an environment, even if pronounced that you reject the values and aspirations of that country.

    Therefore you are correct in describing somebody brainwashed but you can never claim you are not.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • #17792
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Oi londontsi, this seem famililar?




      Its an epidemic.
      Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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      • #17793
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Chubs View Post
        Oi londontsi, this seem famililar?




        Its an epidemic.
        This type of crap you will see in the English heartland, not in London.

        Remember London is an English city but 60% of the population are not English.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • #17794
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Federate View Post
          Seriously, the only people whining about the animal eating both in Armenia and on the Internet is people in this thread. No one else has batted an eye about it. BREAKING NEWS: They're animals, we eat them. Not the first time either. The video showed literally 3 men doing it. It's ceremonial, part of a show for people like us who watch it. It's a symbolic way of demonstrating nothing can break them. Relax y'all, drink a beer, smoke a joint. Your Western sensibilities are not universally shared.

          US Marines toughen up by drinking snake blood and beheading chickens with their teeth in gruesome survival training in Thai jungle http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3KZC7vzP4
          A good sniper on the prowl must be able to live off the land......you are crawling inch by inch for days, you might come across a snake or a rabbit hole. You can't cook it so you learn to eat them raw.
          B0zkurt Hunter

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          • #17795
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
            A good sniper on the prowl must be able to live off the land......you are crawling inch by inch for days, you might come across a snake or a rabbit hole. You can't cook it so you learn to eat them raw.

            Came on guys the whole point of the sniper crawling inch by inch is that he or she is not detected.
            Can you imagine how undisciplined he must be that at the sight of a snake he makes a jump to grab the snake for lunch.

            Also if he is that hungry he will not be able to hold the rifle or keep a steady aim.

            Living off the land would be for operations behind enemy lines for unspecified periods where
            contact with the locals would be risky.

            Also when setting up a base in isolated locations where normal logistics of the army would not be practical.
            This may be both behind enemy lines or indeed within own territory.

            Another reason could be if the unit is cut off behind enemy lines and decides not to surrender and take its chances.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • #17796
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              Came on guys the whole point of the sniper crawling inch by inch is that he or she is not detected.
              Can you imagine how undisciplined he must be that at the sight of a snake he makes a jump to grab the snake for lunch.
              Armenian recon Marine......night cover, small trap, etc. Examples exist from WWII

              Also if he is that hungry he will not be able to hold the rifle or keep a steady aim.
              Armenian recon Marine......proof it has happened and it was one shot one kill, four days no food.

              Living off the land would be for operations behind enemy lines for unspecified periods where
              contact with the locals would be risky.
              that is why the best of the best train like spetnaz/recon Marine.

              Also when setting up a base in isolated locations where normal logistics of the army would not be practical.
              This may be both behind enemy lines or indeed within own territory.

              Another reason could be if the unit is cut off behind enemy lines and decides not to surrender and take its chances.
              Recon Marine never give up.
              No surrender, maybe pull back but never surrender.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #17797
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                Armenian recon Marine......night cover, small trap, etc. Examples exist from WWII



                Armenian recon Marine......proof it has happened and it was one shot one kill, four days no food.



                that is why the best of the best train like spetnaz/recon Marine.



                Recon Marine never give up.
                No surrender, maybe pull back but never surrender.
                Are the Armenian marines you speak of stationed here?




                No surrender, maybe pull back but never surrender.
                Depends on the circumstances, if there is a wall behind you, or a group of people, you might not want to pull back. I say keep walking, on foot after the other, until you reach Yerevan Bay and then enter the Sea of Hayk



                Armenia has two kinds of special forces: Recon/Scouts/Intelligence, and (prepare for generic name) Spetsnaz. One wears black berets, one wears blue berets. Correct? There are no paratroopers/VDV, because Armenia doesnt have a proper way to deploy them. There are no marines, for obvious reasons. She then has generic groups like SWAT teams, secret service, etc.



                Came on guys the whole point of the sniper crawling inch by inch is that he or she is not detected.
                Can you imagine how undisciplined he must be that at the sight of a snake he makes a jump to grab the snake for lunch.

                Also if he is that hungry he will not be able to hold the rifle or keep a steady aim.

                Living off the land would be for operations behind enemy lines for unspecified periods where
                contact with the locals would be risky.

                Also when setting up a base in isolated locations where normal logistics of the army would not be practical.
                This may be both behind enemy lines or indeed within own territory.

                Another reason could be if the unit is cut off behind enemy lines and decides not to surrender and take its chances.
                Agreed, this entire conversation is making the demographic on this forum look ridiculous, there are very specific situations where a soldier will revert to eating raw animals, its not a skill that would be used constantly. We need to be able to keep our soldiers fed, so they dont have to. Its good they know how to do it, but we all know Armenia isnt sending troops to jungles of any kind. We know the land, we know how to get around. I doubt any units would get lost, and starve in the mountains. All units around the world practice this, but its not used, almost at all.

                The scouts who demined the path to the helicopter, probably didnt ever think about grabbing a bunny, and ripping its throat out. They focused on their task at hand, and to suggest they crawl their way around like worms, is silly. I dont know if you have ever heard of this, but its called crouching, and in a ghillie suit its just as effective.

                btw if you use the word operator seriously, you need to break a 10ft pole over your face. (Not directed towards anyone, just a statement)
                Last edited by Chubs; 11-30-2014, 11:12 PM.
                Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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                • #17798
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                  This type of crap you will see in the English heartland, not in London.

                  Remember London is an English city but 60% of the population are not English.
                  Hey how is London? I heard Brits don't like armenians lol

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                  • #17799
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Ak105 View Post
                    Hey how is London? I heard Brits don't like armenians lol

                    London is ok,


                    Armenians are relatively small community therefore not very significant.

                    I wouldn't say they like us or not. At times its frustrating because they do not know the what or the where of Armenians.

                    The community as well as the Embassy do their best to raise our profile.

                    Perhaps their latest success was when Prince Charles attended the Armenian church, story below.

                    Prince Charles reveals his heartbreak at the 'appalling atrocities' and 'soul destroying tragedy' facing Christians persecuted across the Middle East
                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2841029/Prince-Charles-reveals-heartbreak-appalling-atrocities-soul-destroying-tragedy-facing-Christians-persecuted-Middle-East.html
                    Speaking in an Armenian Church in South Kensington, London today, Prince Charles said Christianity is being 'quite literally, grotesquely and barbarously assaulted' in the Middle East


                    .
                    Last edited by londontsi; 11-30-2014, 10:57 PM.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • #17800
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Ceremony dedicated to secret-service agents' day and Armenian armed forces intelligence subdivisions formation anniversary

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