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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Tue, 08/04/2014 - 13:31 — Luan Jaupi

    HALO begins Mineclearance in Armenia and Finds First Mine

    HALO began work on 1st April 2014 as the first international NGO to conduct mineclearance in Armenia. A team of HALO deminers, funded by the US Department of State’s Office for Weapons Removal and Abatement, is clearing a minefield in the village of Srashen, near the town of Kapan in Syunik region. The team found its first mine, an OZM-72 bounding fragmentation mine, on 4th April.


    The people of Srashen and many other villages around Kapan have lived with the mines for over 20 years since the end of fighting over the neighbouring region of Nagorno Karabakh.

    The day after the commencement of demining HALO started the training of the first batch of a total of 60 deminers from Armenia’s Peace Keeping Engineering Battalion (PKEB).

    As part of HALO’s US Government grant HALO will train the PKEB to international demining standards and then manage their clearance for two years. This will provide Armenia with a well-trained experienced cadre of deminers to clear Armenia’s landmines problem.

    The first of the PKEB deminers will complete their training on 17th April and will then deploy to conduct clearance under HALO management around Kapan.

    HALO’s work in Armenia is coordinated by and conducted under the authority of the Armenian Centre for Humanitarian Demining and Excellence.
    - See more at: http://www.halotrust.org/media-centr....RJGyB2tW.dpuf






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        Originally posted by Hakob View Post
        Have you guys reflected that through the history, the best way to win against both Turks is by projecting fear.
        The technology, discipline etc. we're not as helpful as the fear.
        Look at history. Turks have won many great wars against very advanced Europeans many times. Last being Gallipoli against British. Once they see that it has come down to intimidation, they always endure, because they get over their panic of a catastrophe or crush.
        But against much less advanced Russians they always either lost or came to ceasefire and negotiations. The reason is because Russians are lot more brutal and unpredictable than west European powers.
        Lately, Azeris are loosing fear of us, our fedayees. Any expected and measured response by us to their actions gives them room to adapt and controll their unruly mob towards more intimidations.
        I am not saying that we should start a war. But unexpected and sudden responses or unthinkable and irrational(for their planning) responses might be very helpful.
        Something like wipe the enemy snipers month, or seen any-kill any week by us.
        Or sudden wipe out of a position followed by calm "what happened?"
        We have to maintain the fear of unexpected by us. Once they know what to expect, then the game is theirs.
        I know, we will loose solders. But it's better to have casualties from our own actions than from enemy's, since it is clear that we are now in situation where casualties are occurring out of our controll.
        This sounds a lot like what the azeris are doing to us.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          This sounds a lot like what the azeris are doing to us.
          Well Serge Sarkisyan has learned a few trick from the Azeris and applying to the opposition.
          The latest victim is Jirayr Sefilian and apparently hospitalised.

          I do not agree what Sefilian is doing but the way SS and his thugs prescribe justice is totally unacceptable.


          PS. The word is SS is more afraid from the opposition than the Azeris.
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          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              Well Serge Sarkisyan has learned a few trick from the Azeris and applying to the opposition.
              The latest victim is Jirayr Sefilian and apparently hospitalised.

              I do not agree what Sefilian is doing but the way SS and his thugs prescribe justice is totally unacceptable.


              PS. The word is SS is more afraid from the opposition than the Azeris.
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              To be fair this is usually true for most world leaders most of the time.
              Hayastan or Bust.

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                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                Well Serge Sarkisyan has learned a few trick from the Azeris and applying to the opposition.
                The latest victim is Jirayr Sefilian and apparently hospitalised.

                I do not agree what Sefilian is doing but the way SS and his thugs prescribe justice is totally unacceptable.


                PS. The word is SS is more afraid from the opposition than the Azeris.
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                SS has his handlers organize those things. People maybe don't know, but it maybe lot easier to get rid of SS then whoever is behind this government.
                If a rat like Choyt can declare that "if the government needs some money, I'll give it some". In the background that he is under arrest now for tax evasion and damage to country this shows how confident and cynical they have become.
                It's like, with only 2mln people our country has 10-15 Al Capone's.
                There is only one thing to do. What they did themselves in early 90's. A super secret group has to be formed which should terrorize those oligarchs and their families. Demands have to be issued that they get out of governing bodies or else...
                Otherwise neither SS nor any of oligarchs are not afraid of opposition. They know each member and their circles. If need be, each one will be silenced (like the beatings).
                Democracy activists are not threat to them.
                But they would xxxx in their pants if an unknown and hard to get group would appear and do damage.
                Last edited by Hakob; 02-05-2015, 10:37 AM.

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                  Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                  SS has his handlers organize those things. People maybe don't know, but it maybe lot easier to get rid of SS then whoever is behind this government.
                  If a rat like Choyt can declare that "if the government needs some money, I'll give it some". In the background that he is under arrest now for tax evasion and damage to country this shows how confident and cynical they have become.
                  It's like, with only 2mln people our country has 10-15 Al Capone's.
                  There is only one thing to do. What they did themselves in early 90's. A super secret group has to be formed which should terrorize those oligarchs and their families. Demands have to be issued that they get out of governing bodies or else...
                  Otherwise neither SS nor any of oligarchs are not afraid of opposition. They know each member and their circles. If need be, each one will be silenced (like the beatings).
                  Democracy activists are not threat to them.
                  But they would xxxx in their pants if an unknown and hard to get group would appear and do damage.
                  The opposition is a joke itself. Nothing but a bunch of money and power hungry criminal traitors themselves, who are only angry not because the SS regime is stealing from our country, but because they can't steal themselves. I don't know when we will actually get a real political option in Armenia.

                  Though I find the pre-parliment group to be be a joke in the way they conduct themselves as a "political force", their complaints as ordinary people are the same ones held by every single ordinary Armenian. When they suggest the assassination of Lfik Samo, Sashik, and Rubo for the betterment of the country, that is something that every last person in Armenia would support. Now its idiotic to say these things as a politician, but it doesn't make it not true.

                  Instead of forming another failed opposition full of people with zero political skills, they should form a secret armed unit as you suggest, and take out the cancers that rotting our country from the inside.

                  And I totally agree with londontsi, what the security forces did was utterly ridiculous. Sefilian and his group were wrong in what they did, and their whole movement is a complete farce. However, in that situation, if you believe someone is breaking the law, you detain them, and if necessary, try them in court. Just like Shant Harutunyan. You don't attack them and threaten them like your dealing with wildlife. Regardless of what has happened, it is an embarrassment to our country that a man like Jirayr Sefilian was treated like that.
                  Last edited by Mher; 02-05-2015, 01:48 PM.

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                    There is a reason why the police has been beefed up in recent years. You can see it in some of the posts in this forum. Violent overthrow would only succeed here if a superpower is involved. I will restate a question I have always stated when confronted with this question..who is gona replace them and is it better for the country to suffer a revolt and be governed by these new leaders. If there is a new leadership ready it would only be the Kocharian and Tsarukian gang who in my opinion are no different then Serje but might give the society an illusion of change it so much desires. Besides more of the same old..who is there to lead who has the know how and sophistication required? Revolution is a very costly affair and you better make sure the outcome is worth the cost otherwise you will be most likely shooting yourself in the foot then paying a hefty bill to fix it back to where it was when you began.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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