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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by armnuke View Post
    Yerevan is considering refusing to import Turkish goods: Minister

    http://www.verelq.am/ru/node/7778
    While symbolically this would be very important, realistic economic factors have to be taken into account. Most of the products in places like Ferdosi market are Turkish made. Turkey will never notice the difference if Armenia bans them. But those people who make a living off of them, and those people who are forced to buy them because they are the cheapest will. What needs to be done in parallel with this is supporting the domestic industry and promoting buying made in Armenia. Otherwise all you'll do is switch from made in Turkey to slightly more expensive made in China.

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      ‪#‎Armenia‬ defense minister:
      "We are working at prompt transportation of arms from ‪#‎Russia‬ to Armenia."
      ‪#‎NKpeace‬ ‪#‎KarabakhNow‬ ‪#‎Karabakh‬
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Joseph View Post
        Azerbaijani authorities persecute Meydan TV for exposing Azerbaijani
        army’s hidden losses in “four-day war”


        POLITICS 17:36 27/04/2016 REGION

        Azerbaijani authoritieshave filed a criminal case against the
        executives and journalists of online Meydan TV, which is one of the
        few Azerbaijani independent media outlets.According to one of the
        versions, the criminal case against Meydan TV came as a result of the
        publication of the list of the dead during the latest escalation in
        the Karabakh conflict zone, Russian TV channel Rain reports.

        It is reminded that earlier, Meydan TV’seditorial staff presented a
        list of 93 killed Azerbaijani soldiers, while the Azerbaijani Ministry
        of Defense declared about 31 killed. According to Meydan TV’s
        editor-in-chief EminMilli, every person in that list has been really
        killed in the military action, and the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense
        cannot deny this information.

        “Meydan TV enjoys a great trust among the Azerbaijani citizens, and
        that is why, when the military action began, soldiers themselves and
        the families of the killed – parents, relatives, brothers, sisters –
        sent the names and photos of the killed to us. Our journalists and our
        people checked the information in place, and they were present at
        funerals. Each name we included in the list is checked, and it is not
        surprising that the pro-governmental media started to call us
        traitorsfor some reason,”Milli notes.

        According to him, until now, none of the pro-governmental media
        outlets could deny any of the facts published on Meydan TV. He notes
        that the pro-governmental Haqqin.az referred to a soldier as if he
        were alive, while the TV presented him as dead. However, the editor
        clarifies that in reality, the pro-governmental website did not use a
        screenshot or a hyperlink to Meydan TV.

        “Neither the Ministry of Defense nor the pro-governmental media could
        point where Meydan TV had lied. In other words, we did what the
        Ministry of Defense actually should have done from the very beginning.
        We think that this is a lack of respect by our government and the
        Ministry of Defense towards the killed soldiers, their families,
        relatives, friends, and the whole Azerbaijani nation,”Milli
        emphasizes.

        Hefurthernotesthattheindependentmediaareinbadcondi tionsinAzerbaijan.
        He reminds that the headquarters of the internet TV channel founded by
        him is in Berlin, and that he does not have his own journalists in
        Azerbaijan. He saidthere are several citizens, who send video
        materials and certain information to them for publication.

        “We have professional journalists outside Azerbaijan, who process and
        check that information,being abroad. Onlyafterthat, wepublixxxx. It is
        a very complicated system and scheme, but, unfortunately, the
        independent media in Azerbaijan cannot work in any other way
        nowadays,” he notes.

        Millialso reminds that in December 2014, he had to close the Meydan TV
        office toavoid the authorities’ pressure. He highlights that at that
        time, even the office of RFE/RL financed by the US Congress, was
        closed.

        He notes that the criminal case is launched against Meydan TV’s
        “executives,” however, as this online media outlet is not a legal
        entity in Azerbaijan, the accusations are brought against certain
        people. “Thecriminalcaseisnoteventhequestion. For example, one of our
        editors, GunelMovlud, is in Tbilisi, and her two brothers are
        currently in prison. One of my relatives was also in prison, he has
        been released recently. Several months ago, the police forced 23 of my
        relatives to publicly renounce me,”Milli says noting that an
        atmosphere of fear is unleashed in the country, like in Stalin times.

        Moreover, there are citizens among the 15 people sued for their
        collaboration with Meydan TV, who sent only few video materials to the
        editors. “It is frightful to think that people can be punished only
        for that. Unfortunately, we have to be ready for everything,” he says.

        In its turn, the famous American newspaper The Washington Post writes
        that before his recent visit to the United States in the beginning of
        March, President IlhamAliyev of Azerbaijan pardoned some 148 inmates,
        among them some journalists and political prisoners.In Washington,
        Aliyev met with Secretary of State John F. Kerry and Vice President
        Biden. But no one should conclude that this brutish leader has changed
        his ways.

        The newspaper notes that after Aliyev returned home, Meydan TV, an
        independent digital news platform, announced that prosecutors there
        opened a criminal investigation for alleged illegal business
        activities, abuse of power and tax evasion. It is highlighted that
        those are the standard charges used to harass and silence Aliyev’s
        critics.None of the 15 journalists, against whom thecriminal case has
        been launched, is yet formally charged, but some have been told they
        cannot leave the country, and they are subject to home searches and
        equipment confiscations without a warrant.EminMilli, Meydan TV’s
        founder, served 16 months in prison on trumped-up charges.

        “Mr. Aliyev is always jittery in the face of criticism.He jailed the
        journalist Khadija Ismayilova, who first exposed the ownership of
        lucrative gold mines by Mr. Aliyev’s daughters, later revealed in the
        Panama Papers to be even larger than thought,” The Washington Post
        informs.

        Journalists, bloggers and activists also remain imprisoned in the
        country. The newspaper emphasizes that Meydan TV has recently
        challenged the official count of casualties suffered by Azerbaijan in
        a “four-day conflict.”

        “The experience of Meydan TV teaches that the digital byways can
        enable free information to reach closed societies and bypass
        tyrants.Mr. Aliyev seems to think he can fight back with secret police
        and prosecutors.Perhaps Mr. Aliyev inherited these inclinations from
        his father, Heydar, a career KGB man who was appointed to the Soviet
        Politburo.While KGB methods can be painful for those targeted, they
        can’t seal out the truth, nor stop criticism, as Meydan TV and Ms.
        Ismayilova have courageously demonstrated.Mr. Aliyev should free all
        political prisoners, drop the prosecution of Meydan TV and sit down to
        watch the channel himself. He might learn something about the values a
        nation needs to succeed in the modern age,” the newspaper sums up.

        Meanwhile, Amal Clooney, a British lawyer of Lebanese descent anda
        specialist in international law and human rights, told BBC that as the
        attorney of the Azerbaijani journalist Khadija Ismayilova, who was
        condemned to 7,5 years of imprisonment in Baku, she will achieve the
        European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) decision on her case.

        Clooney said that she had met the Azerbaijani ambassador to the US,
        who assured her that his country will respect the decision of the
        ECHR. According to her, there are also diplomatic methods of resolving
        the problem, among which a law bill enacted in the US Congress and
        providing sanctions against Azerbaijani officials among them.

        Meanwhile, RFE/RL reports that influential American senator Ben Cardin
        also met Amal Clooney and discussed Khadija Ismayilova’s case with
        her. “I had a very productive conversation with AmalClooney and am
        impressed by her passion for and dedication to humanrights,” the
        senator posted on his Facebook page.

        In addition, the Caucasian Knot reports that the Azerbaijani human
        rights defenders and former political prisoners IntigamAliyev,
        AnarMammadli, and RasulJafarovreleased a joint statement calling the
        Azerbaijani authorities to release the rest of the political prisoners
        in the country – journalists, bloggers, political activists, and
        religious community representatives.

        The authors of the statement note that the restrictions of freedom of
        speechand assembly are a serious threat to Azerbaijan’s political
        perspectives and democratic progress. “Azerbaijani authorities violate
        their international obligations by prosecuting media and enacting
        laws, which narrow the possibilities for the political parties’
        activities,”AnarMamedli emphasized.

        Азербайджанские власти завели дело в отношении руководства и журналистов независимого канала «Мейдан ТВ» – одного из немногих независимых медиа, рассказывающего о событиях в Азербайджане. По одной из версий, против «Мейдан ТВ» начали уголовное дело из‑за публикации списка погибших в конфликте в Нагорном Карабахе. Редакция приводит список из 93 погибших, в то время как Министерство Обороны Азербайджана заявляет о 31 погибшем. По словам главного редактора Эмина Милле, каждый человек в этом списке действительно погибший в военных действиях, и Министерство обороны Азербайджана не может опровергнуть эту информацию.






        https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2...LZ-PtvswSzc&e=

        I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by ayrudzi View Post
          I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number
          Definitely not the thousands but realistically probably between 2-300. Family and friends of the 98 reported it to Meydan. Think how many of them haven't been reported. Mercenaries..etc.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Mher View Post
            While symbolically this would be very important, realistic economic factors have to be taken into account. Most of the products in places like Ferdosi market are Turkish made. Turkey will never notice the difference if Armenia bans them. But those people who make a living off of them, and those people who are forced to buy them because they are the cheapest will. What needs to be done in parallel with this is supporting the domestic industry and promoting buying made in Armenia. Otherwise all you'll do is switch from made in Turkey to slightly more expensive made in China.
            Being in Armenia, I've seen that there's a substitute to ALL Turkish products at the same price, lower, and higher.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by ayrudzi View Post
              I thought their deaths were well into the 1000s. How is 98 the real number
              Is it you hastily discussing numbers again?

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                The founder of this armenian military medecine doctrine was late Velerik MARUTIAN, real hero, having realised, with his few colegues more than 4000 surgery in frontlines during first war. He founded just at the end of the war Ivanian's military Gospital.
                Once the danger was over, soviet military medical doctrine was back inposed in Yerevan, and Valerik was effectively ousted.
                Nevertheless, he was always beloved by the people of Artsakh, who all helped him in the creation of Ivanian Gospital, virtually independent of the central command.
                He unfortunately did not survive long, after the war, and died basically operating till his last day.
                He must feel confortable and full of joy in his tomb today, realising his doctrine adopted by his successors.
                This change of generation needs to be done in all spheres...

                Respect to you, Dr MARUTIAN.

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                27.04.2016 16:44
                1992թ. Շուշիի ազատագրման գործողության նախապատրաստական աշխատանքներից մեկն էլ դաշտային վիրահատարանի «կառուցումն» էր

                1992թ. Շուշիի ազատագրման գործողության նախապատրաստական աշխատանքներից մեկն էլ դաշտային վիրահատարանի «կառուցումն» էր։ Իսկ թե ինչպես դա արվեց, նկարագրում է Արցախի ռազմաբժշկական ծառայության հիմնադիր Վալերի Մարությանը իր «Պատերազմի վերքը երկար է մնում» գրքում։

                «Ես ու Արթուր Փափազյանը՝ բանակի կապի պետը, շրջեցինք Քարինտակի հետևն ընկած մեր պահակակետերի երկարությամբ մինչև հրամանատարական կետի տեղակայման վայրը։ Փափազյանը ստուգում էր կապի հուսալիությունը, իսկ ես ընտրում էի հոսպիտալի տեղը։ Ճանապարհները սոսկալի վատն էին, հազիվ թե հնարավոր լիներ մինչև մոտակա բուժկետը տեղափոխել ծանր վիրավորներին։ Իսկ մինչև Ստեփանակերտ առավել ևս անհնար էր տեղափոխել։. ճանապարհը ռմբակոծվում էր։ Ընտրեցինք Սղնախի ու Քարինտակի միջև ընկած տարածքը։ Շատ մոտ էինք մարտական գործողությունների գծին, բայց մարտիկները տեսնելով հոսպիտալը իրենց կողքին, ոգրշնչվեցին. առանց բուժօգնության չեն մնա։
                Մեզ վրաններ խոստացան, բայց տվեցին միայն երկուսը։ Երկու վրանում ինչպե՞ս տեղավորես վիրահատարանն ու վիրակապարանը։ Բայց պատերազմը պատերազմ է. ոչ բողոքելու ժամանակ կար, ոչ օգնություն սպասելու տեղ։ Եվ մենք սարքավորեցինք իր տեսակի մեջ եզակի մի հոսպիտալ։ Նման բան, իմ կարծիքով, ամբողջ աշխարհում չի եղել։ Մեզանից կես կիլոմետրի վրա խոտի դեզեր կային։ Մամլված ու ամուր կապված խոտի կապերից մենք ընդարձակ վիրահատարան պատրաստեցինք, վիրակապարան և հոսպիտալային սրահ։ Տանիքը ծածկեցինք բացված երկու վրաններով։ Ներսից ամբողջապես պատեցինք թաղանթով։ Հենց ավարտեցինք կառույցը, ձյուն տեղաց»։

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                  Is it you hastily discussing numbers again?
                  yes its me you got a problem? You say their media is lieing to them and they like sheep believe everything where is the proof they lost 1000's? its guesses and estimation and saying "ohh the attacking side usualy looses 3 times more" You have solid proof that they lost 1000's?

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by ayrudzi View Post
                    yes its me you got a problem? You say their media is lieing to them and they like sheep believe everything where is the proof they lost 1000's? its guesses and estimation and saying "ohh the attacking side usualy looses 3 times more" You have solid proof that they lost 1000's?
                    I'm not a mathematician but 98 x 3 /= 1000 lol.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      27.04.2016 16:43
                      Ադրբեջանական կողմում դատարկվել են մեծ քանակի բնակավայրեր

                      Samvel Martirosyan

                      Հստակ հասկանալ, թե ինչ ա կատարվում ճակատում, բարդ է։ Ինչը բավականին ստուգված է. ադրբեջանական կողմում դատարկվել են մեծ քանակի բնակավայրեր։ Հրետանու աշխատանքը լուրջ վնաս է տվել հակառակորդի զինուժին, տեխնիկային, ինչպես նաեւ ենթակառուցվածքներին, օրինակ էներգահամակարգին։
                      Ինչը դեռ պետք ա ստուգել, բայց բավականին վստահելի աղբյուրներից տեղեկատվություն է գալիս, որ մերոնք նոր դիրքեր են վերցրել, նաեւ Աղդամի կողմը։ Ինչը հաստատ է՝ ադրբեջանական կողմը հիմա ինչ էլ կորցնի, լռելու է, քանի որ իրենք իրենց քարոզչության զոհ են հիմա հանդիսանում, ըստ որի հայերը մենակ նահանջում են։

                      Նյութի աղբյուր՝ https://www.facebook.com/samvel/posts/10154156690223781

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                      Yegek tchvnasenk.
                      Tchkhosenk nor vertzvadz darzki massin, kani pashdonagan haghortakrutyun tchi yeghel.


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                      27.04.2016 17:51
                      Այս պահին Արցախում հանգիստ է, կրակոցներ չկան

                      Արծրուն Հովհաննիսյան

                      Հարգելիներս այս պահին Արցախում հանգիստ է, կրակոցներ չկան։ Առանձնահատուկ լրատվական ակտիվություն մի պահանջեք, ամեն ինչ ներկայացվում է ժամանակին։

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                      Hsdak asum a, shukhur mi ktzek.
                      Tzennered gdrek, mez toghek kordz anenk.....
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