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  • #28991
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Հայերը հեռանում են Արցախից՝ ԼՂՀ կառավարության գործունեության պատճառով - Video

    18:15 - 9 / Հունիս / 2016

    Ինչպես հայտնի է, 2015-ի հունիսին հայտնի ռուս բիզնեսմեն Հերման Ստեռլիգովը հաստատվեց ԼՂՀ-ում՝ հիացած տեղի բարքերով եւ գեղեցկությամբ: Սակայն, չանցած մեկ տարի, նա հանդես է գալիս ընդդիմադիր հայտարարություններով, եւ պարզվում է, որ ԼՂ իշխանությունները հասցրել են զայրացնել նաեւ նրան:

    «ԼՂԳ բյուջեն ունի սոցիալական ուղղվածություն: Եթե պարզ ասենք, որպեսզի ռուս ընթերցողն, օրինակ, հասկանա, մարդուն տալիս են ոչ թե կարթը, այլ ձուկը: Այսինքն՝ տալիս են մի քիչ փող, որպեսզի մարդիկ չմեռնեն սովից եւ ինչ-որ մի կերպ ապրեն: Իսկ կապիտալ ներդրումներ, ասենք, բնամթերքային գյուղարտադրություն, կառավարությունը պարզապես չի կատարում»,- РБК-ի հետ զրույցում հայտարարել է ռուս քաղաքական եւ հասարակական գործիչ, գործարար Հերման Ստեռլիգովը: Վերջինիս խոսքերով՝ «մարդիկ հեռանում են Ղարաբաղից, եւ դա վատ է: Պատճառը ԼՂ կառավարության թերացումներն են: Եթե այսպես շարունակվի, ապա մարդիկ կշարունակեն հեռանալ, եւ ադրբեջանցիները պարզապես հեշտությամբ կգրավեն արդեն դատարկված տարածքները»,- ասել է ռուս գործարարը:

    Մինչդեռ մեկ տարի առաջ РЕН ТВ-ի եթերում Ստեռլիգովը, խոսելով Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի մասին, այն անվանում էր դրախտավայր: Ստացվում է, որ ընդամենը մեկ տարում ԼՂ իշխանությունները կարողացան զայրացնել նույնիսկ Ստեռլիգովին:

    https://youtu.be/tUNv6GMn-mk


    Նյութի աղբյուրը ` http://hraparak.am/?p=113931&l=am/
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #28992
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Azerbaijan shells Armenian border village - mayor

      13:00 • 09.06.16

      The mayor of Baghanis, a border village in Armenia’s Tavush region,
      says in a post of Facebook that their village came under heavy fire in
      the early hours of June 9.

      “Roofs and windows were damaged. 11th graders, who were back on their
      way to school from a field trip, had to wait for 30 minutes at the
      village’s entrance for security reasons. Nevertheless, our 9th graders
      [who leave secondary school] are taking their final exams. It is
      pride, status and fate to be a native of Baghanis,” reads Narek
      Sahakyan’s status.

      Azerbaijan shells Armenian border village - mayor
      https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.tert.am_en_news_2016_06_09_baghanis_2044949&d=DQIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=LVw5zH6C4LHpVQcGEdVcrQ&m=6zJULZ10EeGqnEqZh2pYfJKUSMoEgRcvP1M7Zh-6FI0&s=rSzM5yYN3xbhyT20vm-SyQGHbxHRv24u2BDjkqTWY3w&e=
      “Roofs and windows were damaged. 11th graders, who were back on their way to school from a field trip, had to wait for 30 minutes ...
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • #28993
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Առաջնագծի զինվորները





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        • #28994
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Another difference between Armenia and Azerbaijan: when an Azeri civilian crosses the border, the Armenians repatriate/send that individual back home quickly...when an Armenian crosses the line, the Azeri torture and kill that person.


          Armenia / Azerbaijan: Azerbaijani citizen repatriated
          https://www.icrc.org/en/document/armenia-azerbaijan-azerbaijani-citizen-repatriated
          An Azerbaijani civilian – a woman who had crossed the international border into Armenia on 7 June – was repatriated today under the auspices of the International Committee of the Red Cross.
          General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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          • #28995
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Joseph View Post
            Another difference between Armenia and Azerbaijan: when an Azeri civilian crosses the border, the Armenians repatriate/send that individual back home quickly...when an Armenian crosses the line, the Azeri torture and kill that person.


            https://www.icrc.org/en/document/arm...en-repatriated
            And yet there are some Armenians who cross into the Azeri side. Instead of the Georgian or Iranian or Turkish side. It really is a mystery. Must be some kind of psychological thing.

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            • #28996
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
              Look if we dig deep into our history , every nation has betrayed us. If we get butt hurt at that , then we shouldn't even have allies. What I'm trying to say is Russia is no better an ally then the US. I really believed in the painted so called Armenia-Russian brotherly alliance. All I see now is intrests and that's all. I don't blame Russia for protecting itself, but blame them for not giving us any space. A friend should allow you to succeed and if not, they couldn't be your friend.
              Unfortunate that you believed in Armenia/Russia brotherly alliance. Lots of us know that this idea has been forced upon us and most of the times contradicted by Russia itself for past 200 years.
              But still, most of us were calculating on balanced mutual interests and subsequently behavior between us. That the prowest activists have been pushing an anti Russian feelings amongst us is being resisted by simple logic that there seem not any benefit possible from seeing Russia as an enemy. On the contrary, a great harm.
              Meanwhile, we hope, that Russia balances her position in Caucasus in regards to us in our benefit.
              This sometimes looks happening and sometimes not.
              So we look, at what factors are affecting this behavior and how can we influence it?
              No matter how you look at it, eventually you end up seing the true problems in Armenia/Russia relations inside us, in Armenia mostly. In our ruling government and opposition's immaturity (and being financed from abroad, instead of being grass roots).
              One devastating factor that stands out is our government/oligarchic successfull campigne in making synonymous their hold in power with being pro Russian and guaranteeing our relation for Armenian and Russian audience.
              And our opposition on the other hand, seems propagating anti Russian views and beliefs in Russia, that only current leadership will keep Armenia in Russian circle.
              But for Russia in reality it does not matter who is in power in Armenia, as long as the country stays in Russian sphere.
              If you look in past 10-15 years, several times Russia has tried to distance itself from Armenia's domestic turmoils because it is not a good idea to tie your political prospects up in one fraction of a country.
              But, as soon as trouble comes up for our government, it runs to kiss Kremlin's butt and somehow most stupidly our oppositions main message becomes a call for choice between Russia and west.
              This is very frightening for Kremlin. Immediately, it sees the need to protect the ruling government in Armenia against opposition.
              Very shrewdly our oligarchs have made Russians believe that only they are the best defenses of Russian interests not only in Armenia but in region.
              But in reality they are ready to give up owner ship of the last rock in Armenia to Russians as long as they stay in their power. Otherwise they can be toppled in days.
              The example of my concept is the Electric Yerevan protests. At the beginning Moscow started to panic that this was just another pro west Orange Revolution attempt.
              But soon, when it became abvious that this was against corruption, kremlin was more willing to let Russia controlled electric company and protesters to get a compromicse.
              Bottom line.
              Russia has interests, but current leadership has led Armenia into low lying subject only position in that interest, because of self preserving need of Russian sponsorship.
              But had our government been less corrupt and more legitimate, we could have more balanced relation with Russia, as both countries have the natural geopolitic factors to be allies.

              I don't know how, but in order for government change, our opposition has to separate today's rulers from image of prorussian guarantors.
              Kremlin knows very well that only true interests our oligarchs have is the power and money.
              Ukrainian oligarchs thought bitter lessons to Russians in this.
              But our oligarchs have successfully embedded in Kremlin psicho that any social political change in Armenia leads to prowest turn about.
              Last edited by Hakob; 06-10-2016, 09:57 AM.

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              • #28997
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Առաջնագծի զինվորները






                Last edited by burjuin; 06-10-2016, 08:09 AM.

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                • #28998
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                  Another difference between Armenia and Azerbaijan: when an Azeri civilian crosses the border, the Armenians repatriate/send that individual back home quickly...when an Armenian crosses the line, the Azeri torture and kill that person.


                  https://www.icrc.org/en/document/arm...en-repatriated
                  what was the name of the Armenian who was killed this way? Karen something?

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                  • #28999
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                    what was the name of the Armenian who was killed this way? Karen something?
                    Petrosyan.

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                    • #29000
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
                      Petrosyan.
                      thanks

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