Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

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[londontsi]

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Look if we dig deep into our history , every nation has betrayed us. If we get butt hurt at that , then we shouldn't even have allies. What I'm trying to say is Russia is no better an ally then the US. I really believed in the painted so called Armenia-Russian brotherly alliance. All I see now is intrests and that's all. I don't blame Russia for protecting itself, but blame them for not giving us any space. A friend should allow you to succeed and if not, they couldn't be your friend.

Could you please remind us what alliance do we have with the US.

Sure, we have agreements but as far as I am aware no alliances.

Unless you are confusing cooperation agreements with alliance.

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[burjuin]

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[armo12]

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Can anyone identify this AK variant? Looks like a modded ak-74m or an ak-12 or an as-300(made by aspar arms)

[burjuin]

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Final exams underway at Armenia training military units
12:06, 11.06.2016
Region:Armenia
Theme: Society

In accordance with the combat-readiness plan of the Armed Forces of Armenia, final exams are held at the training units of the armed forces.

The professional commissions are examining the knowledge which the staff has attained, and the skills which the junior commanders have acquired.

Within the framework of the final exams being held at an artillery training unit, the theoretical and practical knowledge of the cadets was individually checked and evaluated.

The cadets, who succeed in their final exams and obtain artillery specialist’s qualifications, will join the artillery units of the Armenian armed forces, and contribute to the strengthening of their combat-readiness.

Armenia News - NEWS.am

news.am/eng/news/331740.html

[burjuin]

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Military attachés visit Armenia army unit
14:48, 11.06.2016
Region:Armenia
Theme: Politics


YEREVAN. – In accordance with the work plan of the Association of Military Attachés, the military attachés who are accredited in Armenia on Friday visited a military unit of the Ministry of Defense.

The commander of the military unit received this delegation.

The military attachés accredited in Armenia were briefed on some details on the makeup, challenges, and activities of this military unit.

Subsequently, these military attachés toured the military unit, and got familiarized with the living conditions of its servicemen.

Armenia News - NEWS.am

http://news.am/eng/news/331771.html

[burjuin]

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[Haykakan]

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It is not a credit to oligarchs. They are doing whatever is in the interest of their power hold. The'e doing only what they are capable of.
The problem is mainly with opposition, that cannot convince neither Armenian people nor Russians that their activity is not about western sponsored putsch but fight against corruption.
Again the matter is not about capitalist or whatever system. This corruption was there in soviet times too.
In order to establish somehow fare system for majority, opposition has to focus on corruption, assemble healthy national concensus and force government change. Russians, like others, are watching how much our or any government represents its people. Corrupt government opens doors to manipulations that do not represent people.
As long as we do not have a government that functions on popular anti corruption ideology platform, it does not matter what system you adapt.
You may ask how it's possible to create such a government?
I don't know, how exactly. But I know, we cannot wait for Artsakh problem or Armenia's security to fall in such state that we have to act. It may be too late.
That is why fiew weeks ago I was talking about one possibility. A military putch.
Russia will not stand against that change because of ties to our military.

The main opposition parties are backed by foreign interests and that is why they are not convincing. Sure many people are trying to make good changes but the mainframe of the opposition is as corrupt as the ruling elites. I have not seen any opposition party that I could say I support. Ukraine is finding out that revolution does not mean better anything. I would say a putsch may not be a bad idea as the army is by far the most effective institution in the country. Winning wars is different than managing a country and the putsch would need to be followed by some transition to civilian led society. The problem is that we lack the strong institutions needed for such a society. I also agree that the system matters less than the motives of the leaders. The ruling elites in Armenia were never my idea of ideal leaders but if it meant security and prosperity I was ok with them for the time being. It seems both peace and prosperity are far from given now and the country has resumed its depopulation track. We are not the only ones who think this way and the arrival of the new-old cat in town from Russia is a sure sign of this. To save their arses the elites may revive a western push now as we have seen renewed talks with the eu. The elites were doing a good job of playing west vs east to their advantage for a while but their inability to improve conditions domestically has lead to a loss of confidence in them from Armenian society and also Russia. A putsch lead by the new cat and Ohanyan may produce positive results. It would not surprise me if the putsch already happened in a hushed manner. We will have to wait and see but I do like the way you think. We need to enhance Armenia's ability to pursue her own interests. If a putsch can achieve this then I am all for it.

[burjuin]

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[Hakob]

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The main opposition parties are backed by foreign interests and that is why they are not convincing. Sure many people are trying to make good changes but the mainframe of the opposition is as corrupt as the ruling elites. I have not seen any opposition party that I could say I support. Ukraine is finding out that revolution does not mean better anything. I would say a putsch may not be a bad idea as the army is by far the most effective institution in the country. Winning wars is different than managing a country and the putsch would need to be followed by some transition to civilian led society. The problem is that we lack the strong institutions needed for such a society. I also agree that the system matters less than the motives of the leaders. The ruling elites in Armenia were never my idea of ideal leaders but if it meant security and prosperity I was ok with them for the time being. It seems both peace and prosperity are far from given now and the country has resumed its depopulation track. We are not the only ones who think this way and the arrival of the new-old cat in town from Russia is a sure sign of this. To save their arses the elites may revive a western push now as we have seen renewed talks with the eu. The elites were doing a good job of playing west vs east to their advantage for a while but their inability to improve conditions domestically has lead to a loss of confidence in them from Armenian society and also Russia. A putsch lead by the new cat and Ohanyan may produce positive results. It would not surprise me if the putsch already happened in a hushed manner. We will have to wait and see but I do like the way you think. We need to enhance Armenia's ability to pursue her own interests. If a putsch can achieve this then I am all for it.

We have a putsch allready in October 27 1999. That is when oligarchs took over a government that more or less had a national platform. Anybody thinking it was just s terror act is Making a mistake.
At that time oligarchs that were spawned by Levon Ter Petrosian's ruling years just decapitated the leadership that was trying to implement controll over them.
About military putsch. As soon as it happens it has to remove embedded chinovniks from power, pass new elections of parliament guaranteeing true voting. After that military has to change constitution allowing it to be the third guarantor of government power and protect itself from retribution or power leadership demolition in case oligarchs or some dominant party decides to prevent it from replacing government again.
The whole thing should not take more than 8-12 months and then military has to step aside.
Looking back at some banana republic's stories, this is the only method I see for change. Otherwise one corrupt government replaces another endlessly and nothing changes.
But once this cycle is broken, there is a chance of bringing socio economic change.