Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

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Military parade on 25th anniversary of Armenia’s independence

[Federate]

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The good news keeps on coming, Iskander NOT part of $200 million deal. More to come! Check the bold parts.

Armenia Showcases New Missiles In Independence Day Parade



Armenia demonstrated on Wednesday Iskander tactical missiles and other advanced weapons acquired from Russia recently as it marked the 25th anniversary of its independence with a military parade held in Yerevan.

Hundreds of Armenian troops marched through the city’s central Republic Square, followed by columns of tanks mounted on heavy military tracks, armored vehicles, artillery and air-defense systems, and ballistic missiles. They were joined by a company of Russian soldiers from Russia’s military base headquartered in Gyumri.

A dozen MiG-29 fighter jets of the Russian base and Armenian Su-25 attack aircraft roared overhead during the parade watched by Armenia’s political and military leadership.

The participating troops also included soldiers of an Armenian peacekeeping brigade. They carried the national flags of the United States, Germany, Italy, Poland and Greece symbolizing the brigade’s past and present involvement in multinational contingents led by those NATO member states.

President Serzh Sarkisian praised the Armenian military as he addressed the troops lined up at the sprawling square. “We have the power to defend our freedom and our rights,” he said. “This parade bears testimony to that.”

“During the course of the past 25 years we have achieved irreversible successes,” added Sarkisian. “Sometimes we made mistakes and sometimes we went to extremes, but by and large we have followed the right path.”

The Armenian military used the occasion to put on display several Russian-made weapons that appear to have been supplied to it this year. The most important of them are Iskander missiles that have a firing range of up to 300 kilometers and are known for their precision. A public announcer commentating on the parade said Armenia can use them to destroy “strategic facilities” of its enemies.

In particular, the sophisticated missiles developed in the 1990s and first acquired by Russia’s armed forces in 2006 should make Azerbaijan’s vital oil and gas installations more vulnerable to Armenian missile strikes.

Yerevan has made no secret of its readiness to launch such strikes in the event of a full-scale war for Nagorno-Karabakh. Its ballistic missile arsenal until now included only Soviet-era Scud-B and Tochka-U systems, which were also demonstrated during the parade.

Oil-rich Azerbaijan has said in the past that its oil and gas infrastructure and key military facilities are protected against these missiles. The Azerbaijani armed forces are equipped with Russian S-300 air-defense systems which may be able to intercept Scud-Bs. In recent years, Baku has also reportedly purchased from Israel similar surface-to-air missiles as well as a missile defense radar.

Iskander is thought to be capable of overcoming just about every missile defense shield currently existing in the world. Armenia is the first country other than Russia which is known to have obtained such missiles.

Citing two senior Russian defense industry executives, the Russian daily “Vedomosti” reported at the weekend that Moscow supplied Armenia with at least four Iskander launchers that simultaneously can fire two missiles each. The unnamed sources also said that the delivery was not covered by a $200 million Russian loan which Armenia is to spend on the purchase of more Russian weapons.

In February, the Russian government disclosed the types of military hardware which Yerevan can buy with the loan disbursed in 2015. They include Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems with a range of up to 90 kilometers.

Wednesday’s parade featured Smerch rockets as well, suggesting that Armenian army got hold of them earlier this year.

Yerevan pressed Moscow to speed up the implementation of the $200 million arms deal following last April’s outbreak of heavy fighting around Karabakh which nearly escalated into an all-out Armenian-Azerbaijani war. It also used the escalation to renew its criticism of at least $4 billion worth of offensive weapons which the Russians have sold to Azerbaijan since 2010.

Among other newly acquired weaponry demonstrated at the Armenian parade were modernized variants of the Buk medium-range air-defense system and Infauna electronic warfare vehicles that use advanced technology to jam enemy communications.

Armenia also plans to buy soon Russian-made TOS-1A heavy flamethrowers using thermobaric rockets and Kornet anti-tank systems.

http://www.azatutyun.am/a/28004577.html

Official: Weaponry demonstrated at Yerevan military parade was purchased on $200 mln Russian loan

YEREVAN. - The weaponry demonstrated at the parade held on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the Armenian independence was purchased on $200 mln loan provided by Russia.

Deputy Chief of the General Staff of Armenian Armed Forces, Movses Hakobyan, said the aforementioned to journalists on Wednesday.

''Part of the demonstrated weaponry was purchased on Russian loan. The other part was obtained on our own means,'' he noted.

Iskander and Smerch complexes were for the first time demonstrated during the military parade on Wednesday.

http://news.am/eng/news/347614.html

[burjuin]

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Military parade on 25th anniversary of Armenia’s independence

[Mher]

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If you are using Chrome install the Google Translate pulg-in. It will automatically translate the whole site to English.

I think you accidentally forgot to include the link in your previous post

[AstalaVist]

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I think you accidentally forgot to include the link in your previous post

Oh, i just realized that.

Here we go,

https://www.disput.az/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&controller=topic&id=955697&page=21

[Haykakan]

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I totally agree. I expect the same oligarchs to be in power and simply switch parties were the HHK to be defeated. However the people in this country have given up. they somehow believe some evil elite are destroying the country and that's why the country isn't rich. because the average person isn't intelligent enough to understand economics or geopolitics. therefore its reached a point where the people no longer bother to participate and in their eyes the government can do nothing right. But more than that, the HHK has built its power around oligarchs and its hard for Sargsyan to reign them in no matter how much willpower he has to do so. Therefore I really do think its time for a change. If nothing else, for people to believe they can participate in the political process and that destructive steps like Erebuni are not necessary. My support is behind Pashinyan because he seems to have some real willpower to bring about better rule of law. Once again, I don't think a significant amount will change, and I believe Serzh and co do a somewhat decent job, but it is time for the people do believe in the process and the country again.

I am impressed Mher with your understanding of the situation and in you progress as a person as I have witnessed it over the years on this forum. I have always been against the capitalist form that the government of Armenia has imposed on the country as it leaves no other options but the current situation. As we look upon other countries with a similar system we can see that their elites use sophisticated methods to shift blame for the peoples problems from themselves to other things. It is glaringly evident that the Armenian elites do not possess this ability and sophistication to trick and misguide the public. Besides the lack of sophistication by the elites, another factor that contributes to their failure is the hi level of education which the public possesses thanks to their soviet heritage which stressed education and made it widely available. It is simply harder to fool educated people then ignorant people. This is why the level of ignorance is so high in "successful capitalist societies" like USA. The elite in these countries are constantly dumbing down their population to accept ever more inhumane conditions and actions forced upon it. The people in Armenia are not wrong when they attribute much of the blame on the oligarchs. Yes in Armenia's case there are indeed many other factors but this only makes a good government even more important. To fix our problems we do indeed need a change in government but I see no one advocating or even suggesting the kind of changes we need. No major opposition party is proposing anything even remotely approaching problem solving for Armenia. This is why even as I believe that a change in government is the only solution, I do not see a political or any other kind of force that I can say is going to do a better job, or is on the right track. To be blunt Armenia like most other capitalist societies needs a revolution, the problem is that no one knows what revolution will bring especially when there is no hint of a solution in the opposition to begin with.

[burjuin]

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Military parade on 25th anniversary of Armenia’s independence

[armnuke]

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My prediction on what's gonna happen next.
The Azeris are gonna ask for Iskanders too, Russia will not sell them.
The Azeris are going to get missiles from somewhere else (something similar to Scud just for internal consumption)
We will take that as an excuse and get S-400s.

[burjuin]

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Military parade on 25th anniversary of Armenia’s independence

[ASALA2116]

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My prediction on what's gonna happen next.
The Azeris are gonna ask for Iskanders too, Russia will not sell them.
The Azeris are going to get missiles from somewhere else (something similar to Scud just for internal consumption)
We will take that as an excuse and get S-400s.

I think they will want to buy more Turkish junk .. We should focus on training our boys to there peaks. Maybe even creating a more deadlier unit of experienced contractors. A war has never been won by the number of men but the experience on the ground..