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    9P149 Shturm-S










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      Originally posted by Mos View Post
      Not really an argument - more I'm just irritated that he would say such a stupid thing.
      Calmos amigos

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by burjuin View Post
        9P149 Shturm-S
        With a single launcher and a crew of 2 can this thing carry any troops inside? If not how many spare missiles it carries and does Armenia have the AT-6 or 9 thermobaric missile.

        Thanks in advance.
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          With a single launcher and a crew of 2 can this thing carry any troops inside? If not how many spare missiles it carries and does Armenia have the AT-6 or 9 thermobaric missile.

          Thanks in advance.
          No place for troops. Launcher mechanism, reloading mechanism and 12 missiles are carried inside the vehicle. Reloading is done automaticaly.
          9M114 missile for Shturm is the AT-6 (NATO codename), the 9M120 Ataka missile is the AT-9. There are various versions and modifications of these missiles. I don't know which versions we use.
          By the way, our Mi-24 helicopter gunships also carry these weapons.



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            Criminal case launched on 10 servicemen engaged in reconnaissance –activity in Azerbaijan

            [ 07 Mar 2011 17:50 ]
            Baku. Hafiz Heydarov - APA. Last year, criminal case was launched on 10 servicemen engaged in reconnaissance activity in Azerbaijan, it was noted in the report-2010 of Azerbaijani government submitted to the Parliament, APA reports.

            The section on national security in the report notes that as a result of counterintelligence and operational search actions carried out in direction of struggle against provocation and other destructive activities of foreign intelligence agencies against Azerbaijan, as well as its Armed Forces, a criminal case under the article of “Betrayal to the state” of the Criminal Code has been launched on 10 servicemen engaged in reconnaissance –agential activity in Azerbaijan under the order of foreign intelligence agencies. 4 of them have been imprisoned under the different verdicts of the court, investigation is underway on the criminal case on 6 persons.
            apa.az

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              Corpses of 6 Azerbaijani soldiers were got back, one Azerbaijani soldier liberated from captivity, 2 copses delivered to opposite side

              [ 07 Mar 2011 19:00 ]
              Baku. Hafiz Heydarov – APA. The corpses of 6 Azerbaijani soldiers were got back from the enemy last year, reads the report of the Azerbaijani government resented to the parliament, APA reports.

              The report reads that, Azerbaijan State Commission on Prisoners of War, Hostages and Missing Persons carried out the intensive work with the international organizations in the direction of the liberation of Azerbaijani citizens detained in Armenian side and return the corpses. The corpses of 6 persons kept in the opposite side were returned back. Besides, one Azerbaijani soldier was liberated from Armenian side, the corpses of 2 Armenian citizens were delivered to the opposite side.
              apa.az

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                good pictures!


                Last edited by ArmeniaR1; 03-08-2011, 07:48 AM.

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                  Spider passion
                  Speaking of independent Armenia, serious analysts tend to mention most of the republic held the institute - the National Army as well, especially in recent years, the banking system of Armenia. But if the banking system depends largely on bankers, that is the enthusiasm and knowledge of individuals, then the army - the brainchild of the people, and its achievements and successes rightfully belong to all citizens of Armenian states. Armenia's banking system - an indicator of high intellectual potential of the Armenian people, Armenian Army - an indicator of high patriotic spirit and civic maturity of the Armenian people.
                  This fact scares Azerbaijan makes its advocates gloss over the successes and invent stories about the Armenian Army. From time to time, however, attention switches to the Caucasian Turks innumerable problems of its own armed forces, and individual Internet users even try to take a sober look at the existing there "orders." The last time the cause of "reverse" of attention to the problems of the armed forces of Azerbaijan was which took place on February 20 this year, clashes between soldiers in Goygol (Khanlar) region, as a result of hazing and ethnic disputes were killed seven Azerbaijani soldiers.
                  The incident, carefully hushed up the official press, became an occasion for a broad discussion on the forum of Azerbaijani website disput.az. In these discussions pop up a terrible truth about the mood in the armed forces of Azerbaijan wild orders.
                  Thus, the user under the name comandante wrote (here and later the original spelling preserved): "Imagine you give a single form for six months, of course it's all in the lice. Bath is usually once a month. Food is usually very special, almost cold in the soup one water plus it comes with a delay. Salary soldiers almost never get, everything is officially on their household expenses.
                  Service at the post. First of all soldiers that it wants to go to the post or the first trench, as there is salvation from the training drill or hated commanders. But there are villains in the face of their sergeants or individual officers. Generally the weather for the position of making a platoon commander, usually a non-staff officer and his attitude to podsinennym purely human. Officers, graduates of schools of Baku in most resemble concentration camp guards, in their own words they both fought in the school that they vent to their subordinates. The result of the deplorable soldiers deserting to someone in your house who the Armenians, who then threatens to kill himself, who then kills himself. I note that even being in the immediate combat zone under fire from a sniper pose no particular threat to the Armenians and the hazing and corruption.
                  "The same comandante answers the question mate:" I was in perfect company of which there were almost no patients, where there was not and could be a loss and was in the company of one poludohloy where the soldiers fell from a cold or iznemozhdeniya right in broad daylight. Just commanders were different, a staunch natovets another crazy graduate bakuchilischa.
                  Comandante memories corroborated by other forum members. Thus, complementing each other, they paint a picture of life, rather vegetating Azerbaijani askyarov, many of whom are willing to commit any crime, just to get the favor of officers.

                  Casioman: ŤAnd in our army call anyone, and flat, and oblique and curved. As long as you do not pay, you will deem fit. Not all parents have the opportunity to otmazatsya son suffering from any illness, from the army. "
                  Milan forza: ŤAll of these events in our army ottalkiavyut from it, even normal, healthy kids ... personally see a reluctance to go into the army with his nephew, though the health and mind more than enough ... I myself believe that to give his son in the army today is life-threatening, blasphemous and ungrateful ... "
                  Killer100: Ťand our commander has always said if a war starts, I'm sure I will shoot first and then their colleagues."
                  Sultan: "Any regrets about the soldiers that went to serve .. Soldiers only know that they consider the days .. every day, noting their rest of my days on the walls of the barracks ... On the corruption did not say .. Manat pay, do not come into operation at all .. in short, a mess.
                  Technique really no one knows, some rogues, which compute a single digit in writing and also in a column.
                  This is the reality of the Azerbaijan Army. "

                  This is the true face of the armed forces of Azerbaijan, which is bought and sold everything: from the officer's rank, to supply the soldiers of the right to "serve" on the computer before being able to pay off the service. Getting acquainted with the habits of military service in Azerbaijan, you begin to understand the origin of the term "conscription". Service in the Armed Forces of the Republic is the encumbrance guilty though. And do not be surprised that this "army" of over 10% of the total loss being in suicide, and some of the soldiers died for "unknown reasons".
                  It is not surprising and the fact that the armed forces of Azerbaijan is regularly committed the murder. Thus, we have already mentioned the fact that on February 20 this year, desperate soldiers shot six fellow soldiers, and then shot himself. Only one survived - Ramin Dzhabrailov - who managed to hide under dead bodies of fellow soldiers. However, this tragic incident was a logical extension: February 23, was killed and the only witness to the massacre of Azerbaijani soldiers - Ramin Dzhabrailov.
                  The fact that R. Dzhabrailov was killed, there can be no doubt, not only because of the incredible "accidental" death of the sole witness to the massacre, but also on other grounds. Hardly anyone can believe that etapiruemogo witness drove in the front seat of a car, while the accompanying guards huddled in the rear seats (in the car, according to the report, there were five people). Ramin, of course, sat in the back seat, between his guards. The harder it is to imagine that he, as reported by the police investigator Tovuz Ilgar Abdullayev, died from multiple fractures of the skull base. Rather, the deceased Ramin multiple fractures of the skull certainly had, and they were deposited before the trip. That is, Ramin was dead even before he "sat in the car. Car accident, if it actually occurred, the reason for concealing the crime. Interested in ascertaining the truth Azerbaijani citizens can verify this by visiting a hospital in Tovuz (Tavush).
                  Azerbaijan's military police investigators "clean up" the traces of the crime, and now, when all the officers at the post eight askyarov dead, the criminal trial can be considered closed. No man, no criminal case.
                  Ramin Dzhabrailov - is not the first and certainly not the last victim of cultivation in Azerbaijan, the ideology of hatred and misanthropy. In this republic, built on the blood and suffering of millions of people, human life is always worth less positions and the associated "profit". A flourishing in the armed forces of Azerbaijan theft, rape and murder of a mirror image of the Azerbaijani society in general. Freely live there only are calculated in the single digit column scumbag. And the officer, who claimed that "if war breaks out, I'm sure I will shoot first and then his fellow" - he knew what he said. For the armed forces of Azerbaijan resemble driven into the bank, full of hatred and ready to devour each other spiders.

                  Levon Melik-Shahnazaryan

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                    Spider passion
                    Speaking of independent Armenia, serious analysts tend to mention most of the republic held the institute - the National Army as well, especially in recent years, the banking system of Armenia. But if the banking system depends largely on bankers, that is the enthusiasm and knowledge of individuals, then the army - the brainchild of the people, and its achievements and successes rightfully belong to all citizens of Armenian states. Armenia's banking system - an indicator of high intellectual potential of the Armenian people, Armenian Army - an indicator of high patriotic spirit and civic maturity of the Armenian people.
                    This fact scares Azerbaijan makes its advocates gloss over the successes and invent stories about the Armenian Army. From time to time, however, attention switches to the Caucasian Turks innumerable problems of its own armed forces, and individual Internet users even try to take a sober look at the existing there "orders." The last time the cause of "reverse" of attention to the problems of the armed forces of Azerbaijan was which took place on February 20 this year, clashes between soldiers in Goygol (Khanlar) region, as a result of hazing and ethnic disputes were killed seven Azerbaijani soldiers.
                    The incident, carefully hushed up the official press, became an occasion for a broad discussion on the forum of Azerbaijani website disput.az. In these discussions pop up a terrible truth about the mood in the armed forces of Azerbaijan wild orders.
                    Thus, the user under the name comandante wrote (here and later the original spelling preserved): "Imagine you give a single form for six months, of course it's all in the lice. Bath is usually once a month. Food is usually very special, almost cold in the soup one water plus it comes with a delay. Salary soldiers almost never get, everything is officially on their household expenses.
                    Service at the post. First of all soldiers that it wants to go to the post or the first trench, as there is salvation from the training drill or hated commanders. But there are villains in the face of their sergeants or individual officers. Generally the weather for the position of making a platoon commander, usually a non-staff officer and his attitude to podsinennym purely human. Officers, graduates of schools of Baku in most resemble concentration camp guards, in their own words they both fought in the school that they vent to their subordinates. The result of the deplorable soldiers deserting to someone in your house who the Armenians, who then threatens to kill himself, who then kills himself. I note that even being in the immediate combat zone under fire from a sniper pose no particular threat to the Armenians and the hazing and corruption.
                    "The same comandante answers the question mate:" I was in perfect company of which there were almost no patients, where there was not and could be a loss and was in the company of one poludohloy where the soldiers fell from a cold or iznemozhdeniya right in broad daylight. Just commanders were different, a staunch natovets another crazy graduate bakuchilischa.
                    Comandante memories corroborated by other forum members. Thus, complementing each other, they paint a picture of life, rather vegetating Azerbaijani askyarov, many of whom are willing to commit any crime, just to get the favor of officers.

                    Casioman: ŤAnd in our army call anyone, and flat, and oblique and curved. As long as you do not pay, you will deem fit. Not all parents have the opportunity to otmazatsya son suffering from any illness, from the army. "
                    Milan forza: ŤAll of these events in our army ottalkiavyut from it, even normal, healthy kids ... personally see a reluctance to go into the army with his nephew, though the health and mind more than enough ... I myself believe that to give his son in the army today is life-threatening, blasphemous and ungrateful ... "
                    Killer100: Ťand our commander has always said if a war starts, I'm sure I will shoot first and then their colleagues."
                    Sultan: "Any regrets about the soldiers that went to serve .. Soldiers only know that they consider the days .. every day, noting their rest of my days on the walls of the barracks ... On the corruption did not say .. Manat pay, do not come into operation at all .. in short, a mess.
                    Technique really no one knows, some rogues, which compute a single digit in writing and also in a column.
                    This is the reality of the Azerbaijan Army. "

                    This is the true face of the armed forces of Azerbaijan, which is bought and sold everything: from the officer's rank, to supply the soldiers of the right to "serve" on the computer before being able to pay off the service. Getting acquainted with the habits of military service in Azerbaijan, you begin to understand the origin of the term "conscription". Service in the Armed Forces of the Republic is the encumbrance guilty though. And do not be surprised that this "army" of over 10% of the total loss being in suicide, and some of the soldiers died for "unknown reasons".
                    It is not surprising and the fact that the armed forces of Azerbaijan is regularly committed the murder. Thus, we have already mentioned the fact that on February 20 this year, desperate soldiers shot six fellow soldiers, and then shot himself. Only one survived - Ramin Dzhabrailov - who managed to hide under dead bodies of fellow soldiers. However, this tragic incident was a logical extension: February 23, was killed and the only witness to the massacre of Azerbaijani soldiers - Ramin Dzhabrailov.
                    The fact that R. Dzhabrailov was killed, there can be no doubt, not only because of the incredible "accidental" death of the sole witness to the massacre, but also on other grounds. Hardly anyone can believe that etapiruemogo witness drove in the front seat of a car, while the accompanying guards huddled in the rear seats (in the car, according to the report, there were five people). Ramin, of course, sat in the back seat, between his guards. The harder it is to imagine that he, as reported by the police investigator Tovuz Ilgar Abdullayev, died from multiple fractures of the skull base. Rather, the deceased Ramin multiple fractures of the skull certainly had, and they were deposited before the trip. That is, Ramin was dead even before he "sat in the car. Car accident, if it actually occurred, the reason for concealing the crime. Interested in ascertaining the truth Azerbaijani citizens can verify this by visiting a hospital in Tovuz (Tavush).
                    Azerbaijan's military police investigators "clean up" the traces of the crime, and now, when all the officers at the post eight askyarov dead, the criminal trial can be considered closed. No man, no criminal case.
                    Ramin Dzhabrailov - is not the first and certainly not the last victim of cultivation in Azerbaijan, the ideology of hatred and misanthropy. In this republic, built on the blood and suffering of millions of people, human life is always worth less positions and the associated "profit". A flourishing in the armed forces of Azerbaijan theft, rape and murder of a mirror image of the Azerbaijani society in general. Freely live there only are calculated in the single digit column scumbag. And the officer, who claimed that "if war breaks out, I'm sure I will shoot first and then his fellow" - he knew what he said. For the armed forces of Azerbaijan resemble driven into the bank, full of hatred and ready to devour each other spiders.

                    Levon Melik-Shahnazaryan
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                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      I heard alot about UAV's that Armenia supposedly is producing them ... is this true??

                      Azerbaijan is going to produce them ...

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