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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
[QUOTE=Hye;319267]Hi Vrej1915
you claim Russia helped Azerbaijan against Armenia during Karabakh war in 1991 operation ring and 1992. I haven't heard abour any Russian help in 1992 if you have reliable sources be my guest.
1992 JUNE: Yeltsin had agreed to transfer an equal number of 100 T 72-s to Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia, in a deal of sharing red army's arsenal in the S Caucasus. Days later, with no worning; he delivered more than 350-400 Tanks and BTRs, etc to newly elected Elchibey, while Armenia had to wait 6 months to have its part... In the mean time, the ex soviet tank division, manned by its ex-soviet (mostly Russian, even if Armenians prefered to remember the ukrainians nowdays) crews, marched on Chahumian and Martakert.
This is history, well known to anybody in Artsakh those days, and reported many times.
You can find if you wish.
For serjik, I wish you were right, but unfortunately your demonstration is wishful thinking
Concerning Russia: If you look at it closely, you will discover quite the contrary. Russia sacrifices our interests each time it feels secure/sure enough, and this till the days of Tzarina..; And by today, Russia , or more specifically, Mr Medvedev is pushing a very pro turkish policy against us, and in fact, is trying to force us to concede territories, to please ankara/baku.
To claim the contrary is only due to lack of information, or wishful thinking.
Any way, as a last detail, the selling of S 300 is real provocation, and destabilising factor.... anyone having an idea of the real military balance, and the thinking of azeri leadership does understand it.
The only reason they do not really consider an attack, is their fear of Baku burning like an oil barrel. And S 300 may give them the sentiment of 'unvulnerability' against our long range missiles... (no matter if that sentiment is erroneous)
And here it does not matter that we had this technology for years, etc...Of course we had it, because we are the stategic allies of Russia.
We have a lot other things that neither azerbaijan, nor any other neighbor has. Does that mean that Russia can give them to Baku for some cash?
If Turkey had gave them, it would have been 'normal', ..
Any way, I see one major reason for russian misbehaviour: their sentiment of 'impunity' in the armenian opinion, and you just gave a good proof.
If they knew that the 600 million of pocket money Mr Medvedev grabbed for the S 300 may have endangered the future of their base in Gyumri, they would have thinked twice...
Signing the 2044 (10 years before term) prolongation deal by serjik, in these conditions, proves his abilities...
Any way, I will not return on him. He and Levon are the worst calamities destiny inflicted on us since Stalin & Ataturk.
[QUOTE=Hye;319267]Hi Vrej1915
you claim Russia helped Azerbaijan against Armenia during Karabakh war in 1991 operation ring and 1992. I haven't heard abour any Russian help in 1992 if you have reliable sources be my guest.
1992 JUNE: Yeltsin had agreed to transfer an equal number of 100 T 72-s to Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Georgia, in a deal of sharing red army's arsenal in the S Caucasus. Days later, with no worning; he delivered more than 350-400 Tanks and BTRs, etc to newly elected Elchibey, while Armenia had to wait 6 months to have its part... In the mean time, the ex soviet tank division, manned by its ex-soviet (mostly Russian, even if Armenians prefered to remember the ukrainians nowdays) crews, marched on Chahumian and Martakert.
This is history, well known to anybody in Artsakh those days, and reported many times.
You can find if you wish.
For serjik, I wish you were right, but unfortunately your demonstration is wishful thinking
Concerning Russia: If you look at it closely, you will discover quite the contrary. Russia sacrifices our interests each time it feels secure/sure enough, and this till the days of Tzarina..; And by today, Russia , or more specifically, Mr Medvedev is pushing a very pro turkish policy against us, and in fact, is trying to force us to concede territories, to please ankara/baku.
To claim the contrary is only due to lack of information, or wishful thinking.
Any way, as a last detail, the selling of S 300 is real provocation, and destabilising factor.... anyone having an idea of the real military balance, and the thinking of azeri leadership does understand it.
The only reason they do not really consider an attack, is their fear of Baku burning like an oil barrel. And S 300 may give them the sentiment of 'unvulnerability' against our long range missiles... (no matter if that sentiment is erroneous)
And here it does not matter that we had this technology for years, etc...Of course we had it, because we are the stategic allies of Russia.
We have a lot other things that neither azerbaijan, nor any other neighbor has. Does that mean that Russia can give them to Baku for some cash?
If Turkey had gave them, it would have been 'normal', ..
Any way, I see one major reason for russian misbehaviour: their sentiment of 'impunity' in the armenian opinion, and you just gave a good proof.
If they knew that the 600 million of pocket money Mr Medvedev grabbed for the S 300 may have endangered the future of their base in Gyumri, they would have thinked twice...
Signing the 2044 (10 years before term) prolongation deal by serjik, in these conditions, proves his abilities...
Any way, I will not return on him. He and Levon are the worst calamities destiny inflicted on us since Stalin & Ataturk.
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