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    Azerbaijan: Non-Combat Deaths Put Military Reforms in Spotlight
    November 14, 2011 - 1:21pm, by Shahin Abbasov Azerbaijan EurasiaNet's Weekly Digest Military Service
    Azerbaijan may boast a billion-dollar-plus annual defense budget and a professed commitment to military reforms, but the deaths of soldiers in non-combat-related incidents are raising questions about the government’s commitment to remaking the country’s armed forces.

    The issue of non-combat deaths gained notoriety over the course of recent, three-day span. On November 1, 19-year-old Private Azer Abbaszade, died at a base in Barda, close to the Nagorno-Karabakh frontline, with pneumonia listed as the official cause of death. Abbaszade’s death was preceded by the deaths of 18-year-old Private Ruslan Kerimov, also allegedly from pneumonia, and 19-year-old Private Raul Agayev, “from a disease,” in Ganja on October 30 and 31, respectively. Privately, observers don’t fully trust the official explanations, and suspect other factors, specifically bullying, may have been a factor in the tragedies.

    The Ministry of Defense seems less than eager to discuss non-combat-related deaths. Ministry spokesperson Eldar Sabiroglu told EurasiaNet.org that an investigation is ongoing. The Office of the Military Prosecutor announced on November 10 that four officers working in Azerbaijan’s Defense Ministry have been dismissed in connection with the three deaths and four officers demoted; another 11 officers were given reprimands. Prosecutors did not release the names of those punished.

    Amid heightened tensions with Armenia over the ongoing struggle to control Karabakh, any issue in Azerbaijan that touches the military is sensitive. In April, Sabiroglu called on Azerbaijani media “to be attentive with publications concerning the army,” adding that “[i]t is wrong to make generalizations . . . based on some incidents.”

    “Indeed, even one loss is hard for us,” Sabiroglu claimed. “We fully understand the responsibility” for the soldiers’ deaths falls on the Ministry of Defense, he continued.

    A coalition of several Azerbaijani human rights groups has been tracking non-combat deaths and notes a disturbing upward trend. Based on Defense Ministry information not released to the public, the Group of Monitoring Compliance with Human Rights in the Army (GMCHRA) has recorded the deaths of 76 soldiers to date in non-combat incidents for 2011, and the injury of 91 others. That compares with 62 non-combat deaths and 71 cases of injury in 2010. Possible reasons for the increase were not identified.

    “Civil society cannot stand aside from these problems,” commented Arzu Abdullayeva, one of GMCHRA’s founders and the head of Azerbaijan’s National Committee of Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly.

    In general, the Azerbaijani public has remained passive on this issue. In 2009, several anonymously posted videos on social networking websites depicted soldiers beating, as well as the humiliation of fresh draftees – a practice known as dedovshchina during the Soviet era. The videos prompted prosecutions and prison terms for the accused. But this case has proven the exception, rather than the rule.

    Politicians have proven similarly cautious about tackling the problem head-on. MP Zahid Oruc, a member of the parliamentary Committee for Defense and Security for the Motherland Party, expressed concern about the deaths, but noted that “such things happen in all armies.”

    Non-combat-related deaths constitute an even more contentious issue in Armenia. A string of non-combat deaths there produced a public outcry – particularly via social networks -- against Armenia’s military leadership, one of the country’s most respected institutions. Some critics have gone so far as to call for the resignations of Defense Minister Seyhran Ohanyan and President Serzh Sargsyan.

    Officials in Baku have no desire to travel down a similar road; hence, authorities have warned Azerbaijani media outlets about “exaggerations.” President Ilham Aliyev’s administration prefers to emphasize Azerbaijan’s slotted $1.76-billion (over 1.38 billion manats) 2012 military budget and its interest in reform.

    For at least one military analyst, the spate of non-combat deaths raises questions about reform progress. While Baku since 2007 has claimed that it has made the switchover to NATO standards, the assertion “is not logical,” said Jasur Sumarinly, who heads a non-governmental group called the Doktrina Military Correspondent Investigative Center. “Harassment among servicemen was typical for the Soviet military, but not NATO armies.”

    Based on Defense Ministry information not released to the public, Sumarinly notes that between 2007 and 2010, the frequency of army deaths from harassment and suicide actually increased (68 deaths from abuse, 35 suicides), compared with the preceding four years (2003-2006: 33 deaths from abuse, 23 suicides). That suggests, he argues, that no real attempt has been made to correct hazing-related abuse in the ranks.

    Yashar Jafarly, an army colonel-in-reserve and director of the Public Union of Officers in Reserve, adds that, since the 1994 cease-fire with Armenia covering Karabakh, only about 15 to 20 percent of Azerbaijan’s 3,500 army deaths have been related to combat causes.

    Jafarly blames the lack of civil society oversight for such abuses. "Civil society activists and human rights defenders do not have access to the armed forces and it creates problems," he said. Even troops stationed on the front lines do not appear to be better disciplined, he added.

    Widespread problems with corruption complicate the matter further, he continued. Officers routinely demand bribes from soldiers and their parents for army leave, better accommodation or other amenities. Those who do not pay may be subject to physical abuse or other forms of harassment.

    Recently discharged soldiers interviewed by EurasiaNet.org appear to have varying recollections of their experiences at the frontline. While one former serviceman, stationed in Barda, reported that both soldiers and officers had renovated housing and adequate food, supposedly in keeping with NATO standards, another ex-serviceman, who served in Geranboy, reported a lack of drinking water and inadequate housing and sanitation.

    As with non-combat-related deaths, the government admits a problem exists, but has been less than enthusiastic about making the Azerbaijani public part of the discussion about any solution. Some 58 criminal cases related to corruption were launched in the army in 2011, according to the latest information available.

    Editor's note: Shain Abbasov is a freelance reporter based in Baku. He is also a board member of the Open Society Foundation - Azerbaijan.

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              Azerbaijani soldier shots his comrade-in-arms

              [ 14 Nov 2011 17:44 ]
              Baku. Hafiz Heydarov – APA. Soldier of the Azerbaijani Army shot his comrade-in-arms with his duty weapon.

              APA reports that the incident was recorded in the military unit of the Defense Ministry situated in Gedebey region of Azerbaijan. During the post changing, soldier of the National Army Khayal Galamdar Karimov shot negligently his comrade-in-arms Habib Bayram Shahbazov. Shahbazov was hospitalized.

              Spokesman for the Defense Ministry Teymur Abdullayev confirmed the fact to APA.

              Injured Shahbazov was drafted from Yardimli, but Karimov from Aghdam Region Military Commissariats.
              apa.az

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                  Baku. Rashad Suleymanov – APA. Azerbaijan shows interest in JF-17 Thunder combat aircrafts jointly produced by Pakistan and China and announced its intention to purchase aircrafts of this type, Pakistan Aeronautical Complex - PAC, which displayed its products in Dubai Airshow-2011 in UAE, told APA.

                  JF-17 Thunder showed exemplary flights over the Dubai airport within the air show. Members of the Azerbaijani delegation also watched the flights.

                  Reminding about the discussions held with Azerbaijan up to now, the company officials said that the discussions have not entered the phase of purchase and sale yet. Now the company is executing the orders of the Pakistan’s Air Forces, the export to Azerbaijan can be realized in the nearest years. The sides determined the annual amount of the order.

                  The company officials said that Pakistan and Azerbaijan has high level relations. Islamabad supports Baku’s positions and territorial integrity of Azerbaijan and has rendered military assistance to Azerbaijan since the very beginning. Taking these relations into consideration, there will be no problems in sale of aircrafts to Azerbaijan.

                  According to company’s representatives, within Pakistan-China cooperation, the production of Block-2 version of JF-17 Thunder aircrafts will be started. This model will be provided with the newest e-war system, additional weapons. Besides, two-pilot model of the aircraft is being developed.

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                    Pakistani JF-17 A Thunder OR A Blunder









                    Pakistan has witnessed new defense acquisitions in this decade than any other, and in the center of it all is the new fighter which was designed by China with partial funding from Pakistan. It is formally known as JF-17 Thunder. When the fighter was in development, Pakistani online communities were jumping with excitement comparing it with its arch rival India’s modern combatants Su-30MKI, Mig-29S & Mirage-2000H. There were claims of it featuring western Radars and long range missiles, & Chinese ordering some due to its superior capabilities. But the reality is far from it.

                    China having spent significant amount of money into a fighter which it is never going to use, most probably forced Pakistan to accept its avionics to offset some its development costs. Chinese who are known for their self reliance first and quality next, are further downgrading JF-17s capabilities with their poorly copy-pirated avionics. Along with their dubious weapons, any chance of JF-17 maintaining BVR edge over its adversary’s front-line combatants, for the most part, is unlikely.

                    Even in close combat JF-17 lacks what it takes to win the fight. Its spine, & wings bearing resemblance(in wing twist & wing area) to a fighter which china knows inside out, the J-7, doesn’t have wing twist nor does it have enough area to provide a low wing loading. Its performance during low speeds and high alphas would be very dangerous for the pilot indeed. It has a Maximum G loading of only 8, as claimed by PAC. Its thrust to weight ratio is another negative point. When its arch rival, the Indian Air Force(IAF), was overtly critical of Tejas for having a low Thrust to Weight ratio, maybe they should have compared it with JF-17 which has even less, even with Emergency Thrust. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex(PAC) proudly displays the RD-93’s “Combat thrust with afterburner” as 19,200lbf, while the whole defense community knows RD-93’s thrust is 18,300lbf and the only real thrust increase was achieved with its new re-designed Sea Wasp RD-33MK engines- which has been explicitly stated by Klimov. However, Klimov’s RD-33 series 3(or series 2?), whose avatar is RD-93 with re-positioned Gear boxes, has a provision for emergency thrust which Klimov says can produce 8700kgf(~19200lbf) in their officially released document. They further state that as “Take-off emergency mode”. So the mentioned thrust can only be used during take-off where the Air is denser, and also only during emergency situations since it would seriously lower the engine’s lifespan. This is a far cry from PAC's “Combat thrust” claim. Why this is being stated is because, the engines(bought by the Chinese after pressurizing the Russians) are the only non-Chinese & non-Pakistani component, and even there they have lied about its capabilities. Hence the true, lower than published, specifications of Chinese and Pakistani components are open to any one’s guesses. In any case, the close combat capabilities of JF-17 is below average or average at best.

                    The next Achilles heal is JF-17’s speed. For a good interception, speed is an important criteria. However JF-17’s max speed is Mach 1.6 which is claimed by PAC. This indicates that JF-17 is draggier. When compared, their F-7s(Reverse engineered Mig-21s) have higher speed of mach 2+ with a lower thrust engine. The IAF fighters which it is going to face, all have speeds greater than the Thunder.

                    So why is Pakistan still inducting more and more of this fighter, which its critics increasingly call it Junk Fighter – 17 ? The answer may lie with Pakistan’s recent trauma & its psyche. Having sanctioned by the U.S, the star of their airforce, the F-16s were severally hit by lack of spares and most of the time grounded. The other 2 sources to procure modern Aircraft- Russia, have been sealed off due to the legacy of Soviet era friendship, current market in India & India’s pressure- and the other source, the European Union, for their extremely high costs. The third source, the Chinese, at that time were still flying their reverse engineered Mig-21s. In those circumstances, “Never again” was the motto of PAF and it instantly jumped into the project of further reversing the reverse engineered Mig-21, known as Super-7(a.k.a Super F-7) to obtain self reliance. The result of that project is the JF-17. So the decision was appropriate at that time, in those situations. However now with China having developed the J-10, and going by the recent reports of offering ToT(Transfer of Technology) to Pakistan, one wonders why are the Pakistanis still ordering 250 planes. Is the trauma of F-16 sanctions so high that they don’t even trust the Chinese? This can't be the case because they still need the Chinese to procure the RD-93 engines for them, even after the Chinese transfer all their associated JF-17 tech to PAC. So why...? The answer lies with their ego/psyche rather than the trauma. Unlike J-10, Pakistan shares copyright to JF-17 and that, for some weird reason, gives them something to celebrate about. This is strange for the reason, war machines are for fighting wars and achieving tactical & strategic objectives, not for gloating about who holds the copyrights. When JF-17 comes face to face with MKI or SMT, there won’t be much to celebrate about it, or the few millions if at all it earns though exports. In the end, it’s all about defending ones homeland from the enemy, and not copyrights.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                      Probably fit one of these on each wing !!

                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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