Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Karabed]

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i dont know if these videos have been posted before but its footage of the geranboy azeri battalion during the war. It shows how the Armenians were completely dominating. Its insane footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTWPQlfnWTs&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwPhp...eature=channel

Hahahaha the second video at 6:55 the azeri soldier gets xxxxx slapping from his commander.
You can find a lot of good videos in this website:

http://www.fedayi.ru/video.php

[Federate]

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More army pictures http://hetq.am/am/category/photostory/?album=20

[Federate]

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Babken Harutyunyan calls for settlement of liberated territories

29.07.2009 20:48 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian Public Council member Babken Harutyunyan said he is concerned over a number of issues related to the Nagorno Karabakh Republic.

“I am particularly concerned about the settlement of liberated territories,” he said.

Harutyunyan stressed that Armenia and NKR had 20 years at their disposal to re-settle the regions but did nothing for the purpose.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=34940

[Federate]

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Remember the Azeri propaganda piece calling on Armenian soldiers to desert? Looks like official Yerevan has a response.
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Azeri’s Try to Lull NKR Soldiers into Defecting with Promises of U.S. Residence
[ 2009/07/30 | 13:34 ] society

Certain Azerbaijani news outlets have used the case of an Armenian soldier who fell into the hands of Azeri forces along the NKR line of contact to launch a new campaign designed to convince Armenian soldiers to defect.

The RoA National Security Service issued a statement in response, refuting Azeri claims that the Armenian soldier defected due to hunger and the long-term goal of moving to Europe.

The statement also alleges that a certain Azeri expert has called on NKR forces to defect in whole units since this way it will be easier to relocat6e them to Europe. It labels these Azeri calls as “figments of the imagination”.

The statement goes on to say that Azerbaijan has even offered Armenian soldiers advice on making their way through mine fields and how to hand themselves over to Azeri forces.

During the past few years, eight Azeri soldiers have defected to the Armenian side. Six of these eventually were relocated to a third country via the auspices of the United Nations and the International Red Cross.

http://hetq.am/en/society/aac/

[Federate]

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WTF is the xxxx in bold doing in this text? Why aren't Armenian complaining to this 'Armenian' branch of Radio Liberty about their choice of words? WTF are Azerbaijani territories? This must not be tolerated. Official Yerevan should warn the news source itself to stop spreading thinly-veiled Azerbaijani propaganda to readers.
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Sarkisian Lauds Armenian Army, Warns Azerbaijan


President Serzh Sarkisian paid tribute to the Armenian Armed Forces on Thursday, saying, in a thinly veiled warning to Azerbaijan, that they would successfully fight back any military attack on Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh.
“Today we are strong, stronger than ever; our army is solid, modern and capable of fulfilling any task,” Sarkisian told hundreds of graduates of Armenian military academies. “It has passed with honor the exam of not only war, but peace as well, embodying the victorious spirit of all Armenians.”

“To those who threaten us with a war, we are reminding the biblical message: ‘For all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword,’” he said. “The irrefutable truth of these words has been proved by the best sons of our nation, the generation of our fathers, my generation. Let no one doubt that if necessary, the same will happen today as well.”

It was an obvious response to Azerbaijani leaders’ regular threats to win back Nagorno-Karabakh and Azerbaijani territories surrounding by force. Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev has repeatedly told his nation to be prepared to resume hostilities “at any moment.”

A native of Karabakh, Sarkisian played a prominent role in the Armenian-Azerbaijani war of 1991-1994. He commanded Karabakh Armenian forces before moving to Yerevan and becoming Armenia’s defense minister in 1993. He also served as defense minister from 2000-2007.

Sarkisian addressed the army college graduates after they solemnly received their first military ranks and paraded in Yerevan’s main Republic Square on the occasion. The high-profile ceremony was also attended by other top government officials and the head of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Catholicos Garegin II.

http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/1789227.html

[ninetoyadome]

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ARMENIA: MILITARY PLANNERS CONFRONT CONSCRIPT SHORTFALL, MULL AN END TO COLLEGE EXEMPTION
Gayane Abrahamyan 7/30/09


A looming shortfall in conscripts for the Armenian army is forcing the country to mull tough choices. A fierce debate has erupted over a plan to remove university enrollment as grounds for an exemption from military service. The proposal reflects both concern over the country’s shrinking male population and worries about the growing military strength of the country’s long-time archrival, Azerbaijan.

Proposed amendments that are expected to be submitted to parliament this fall would require young men to enroll in the army either immediately after finishing high school or after finishing university. Under current legislation covering the draft, male university students receive a temporary waiver from military service; that waiver becomes a permanent exemption if they are enrolled in a doctorate program.

Teachers and other education specialists worry that the changes could cause serious damage to Armenia’s higher education system. The Defense Ministry counters that the army needs the manpower. The recent expansion of Azerbaijan’s military capabilities is injecting a sense of urgency into the Armenian debate. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive].

Armenia’s demographic situation lies at the heart of the discussion. Birth rates plummeted during the early 1990s, a period when the conflict with Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh was in its hot phase, and the Armenian economy experienced turmoil and severe energy shortages during the jarring transition from central planning to a market system. Only 39,000 males were born in 1991 -- men who would be eligible to serve in the army as of 2009. That number dropped to 25,697 by 1995, according to the State Statistical Service. More than 10 years later, the birth rate has still not improved; roughly 24,000 males were born in 2008, said Karine Kuyumjian, head of the service’s Demography Department.

Those low numbers will be reflected in the number of Armenian conscripts starting military service for at least the next decade, forecasted Kuyumjian.

Although the army’s size is a state secret, the problem is such that even Deputy Education Minister Ara Avetisian agrees that the university exemption for military service has to go. "This amendment is unavoidable because military service is one of the most important issues for the state," Avetisian commented.

Avetisian favors males entering the army after high school, at the age of 18, rather than after university. He argues that it would cause the least disruption to their education. Some experts, however, worry that young men inducted into the army immediately after either high school or university would lose interest in ever returning to school.

"Expecting a student who leaves for two years of military service to return after university to study science or to become a good specialist after having forgotten everything [he learned] is senseless," said opposition Heritage Party parliamentarian Anahit Bakhshian, a member of the parliament’s Committee for Science, Education, Culture, Youth and Sport. "Neither will boys taken into the army after [high] school want to study after they get out."

Between the two options, however, Bakhshian, who worked for 30 years as a Yerevan school principal and teacher, also believes that military service after high school is preferable. "Pupils take additional classes with private teachers to apply to universities, so proper conditions need to be created in the army for them to take the classes there and apply to university after they return and then study without interruption," Bakhshian said.

Others support the post-high-school option because they believe that it will help fight corruption in higher education. A 2007 survey carried out by the advocacy group Protection of Students’ Rights found that 30 percent of about 1,000 male students surveyed at universities nationwide reported that they had only enrolled to avoid military service. Some 65 percent of that number had paid bribes to be enrolled in the universities, the survey found.

"Abolishing the waiver will help beat corruption, clean up universities and have only students who really want to study," commented group member Anahit Simonian, a sociologist who worked on the survey.

But parliamentarians do not unanimously support the idea of post-high-school military service. "The army’s effectiveness for combat can’t be provided by 18-year-old boys," objected Artur Aghabekian, a member of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation-Dashnaktsutiun who served as a deputy defense minister from 2000 to 2007. "Our country really has a demographic problem, but a general draft won’t solve it."

Opposition politicians also object to the proposed law; the time has come, these critics argue, for Armenia to have a professional army. "Was it news for them that we have had demographic problems beginning the ’90s?" fumed Vahan Shirkhanian a member of ex-President Levon Ter-Petrosian’s Armenian National Congress who served as a deputy defense minister under Ter-Petrosian from 1995 to 1998. "They should have thought about creating a professional army long ago."

For the army, going professional raises cost concerns. Maj.-Gen. Kamo Kuchunts, who oversees the draft, recruitment and the training of conscripts, termed the idea "important, but . . . highly expensive." He did not elaborate about projected costs. But he noted that only "about 8,000 contracts" have been signed since Armenia began in 2005 to enlist army sergeants on contract. Removing the need for military conscription by building a professional army "needs both serious resources and a certain amount of time," Kuchunts concluded.

Whether by establishing a professional army or scrapping the university exemption for military service, time is of the essence, noted political analyst Igor Muradian. "Especially now, when Azerbaijan has more money and more resources, we need to find some ways to enlarge the army," he said.

Editor's Note: Gayane Abrahamyan is a reporter for ArmeniaNow.com in Yerevan.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insightb/articles/eav073009a.shtml

do u guys think this is smart?

[Eddo211]

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First I thought they are making mistakes but it doesn't appear as such anymore.

If you don’t like that………..you are going to love this from Armenian liberty.com

http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/1786442.html

The Madrid principles call for the liberation of the seven Azerbaijani districts surrounding Karabakh that were fully or partly occupied by Karabakh Armenian forces during the 1991-1994 war. They also envisage a future referendum of self-determination in Karabakh. The Armenian-controlled disputed territory would retain its de facto independence and a land corridor with Armenia proper in the interim.

According to some sources familiar with the negotiating process, the main stumbling block so far has been the liberation of Kelbajar and Lachin, two of the occupied Azerbaijani districts sandwiched between Karabakh and Armenia. They say former President Kocharian insisted on their return under Azerbaijani control only after the Karabakh vote. This condition was rejected by Aliyev. Sarkisian’s position on the matter is not clear.

[Icy]

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PRESIDENT MEETS YOUNG ARMENIANS FROM DIASPORA: “WE SHOULD CHERISH OUR LAND”

President Serzh Sargsyan went to Sevan yesterday to meet Armenian youth from Diaspora who traveled to Armenia in the frames of “Come home” project of Diaspora Ministry. President said welcome to young Armenians and a friendly discussion started round the fire. The youth has got many questions addressed to the President which were kindly answered.

President signified the visit of young people to Armenia. It was mentioned during the discussion that currently Armenia has got problems but the most difficult days are left in the history. The President has also said that though Armenia has got various problems including reforms, prosperity and democratic issues, we should assess facts in comparison. He encouraged the young Armenians living in Diaspora to travel to Armenia more often in order to assess things.

“We must love and cherish this small-sized land keeping without losses, and to gift it to our sons, new generations. In order to do that we should get power from our land, from our people, our state and each other. This is the most important thing,” President said.


Source: Panorama.am

[Eddo211]

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.......]In order to do that we should get power from our land, from our people, our state and each other. This is the most important thing,” President said.

B]Source: Panorama.am[/B]

Amen to that............Armenian spirit is strong and can do more than what we think possible.

Thanks for the update Icy.

[KarotheGreat]

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Russia and the U.S. decides everything for Armenia and Azerbaijan
03.08.2009 17:09 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ ”I am absolutely against relinquishing to the Azerbaijani side. These lands were conquered by our blood,” a famous singer Ruben Hakhverdyan told a press conference in Yerevan today. He said if a war break out in Karabakh, he would have to learn shooting, because he necessarily will take part in it.

“There will be war or not, not Armenia or Azerbaijan would decide, but Russia and the United States,” Hakhverdyan said. According to him, Moscow and Washington have already divided everything among themselves, and perhaps even developed a plan to achieve their goals.