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    Ex-Commander of Artsakh Armed Forces – We’ve Already Handed Over Too Much Land



    The former commander of the Artsakh armed forces, Argady Ter-Tadevosyan, aka Komandos, today stated at NKR independence ceremonies in Stepanakert that even though he was a seasoned war veteran and educated in the art of warfare, he learnt how to defend the land and people of Artsakh against superior Azeri forces when he stepped foot in the war zone.Pointing to the graves of Artsakh war dead, Commander Ter-Tadevosyan commented, “When you visit this memorial and see the graves of those who fell, you understand just what they accomplished and how their heroism was manifested.”

    He stated, that of late, average Karabakh residents are asking him if there is the possibility of war breaking out again. Commander Ter-Tadevosyan said that he tells them that while everything is possible Artsakh today has a “strong protector” in its army and in its people. He added that the third important factor in this regard is the resources that derive from the unity of the Armenian people.

    Answering reporters’ questions regarding the return of certain territories in a peace deal, the battle-hardened commander said that, “this land and this spectacular natural beauty is ours and will always remain ours.” He added that since he is a soldier whose comrades spilt blood on this land he could only speak negatively about land concessions.

    “What can we give back; we’ve already given back so much. We’ve ceded Shahoumyan, Martakert, Artzvashen … What is there left to give?” retorted the former commander, adding that he cannot understand those who talk about returning any territories.


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    Madrid Principles, Protocols Get Booed-Down in Kashatagh

    Today’s ceremonies in Berdzor, Kashatagh, marking the 18th anniversary of Artsakh independence, took on a decidely political overtone. More than 1,000 people, some from as far away as Vayots Dzor and Syunik, joined local government officials at the ceremony organized by the Kashatagh Regional Administration and the ARF.

    Davit Ishkhanyan, a representative of the ARF’s Artsakh Central Committee, told “Hetq” over the phone that the assembled throng had made it clear once again that the liberated territories were not subject to negotiation, despite whatever diplomatic processes are taking place in various European capitals. Mr. Ishkhanyan added that people were loudly chanting “No Way” whenever the Madrid Principles were mentioned and that the recent Armenian-Turkish negotiation protocols were also met with boos and hisses from the crowd.

    Last edited by Federate; 09-02-2009, 12:50 PM.
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      NKR President: “An independent Karabakh will be based on other than old Soviet borders”

      A “Hetq” reporter asked President Sahakyan whether Karabakh settlement negotiations based on the Madrid Principles would in fact lead to territorial concessions. “Such questions often arise and are directed at me regarding how Artsakh pictures its future independence; whether within the territories of the old Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region or outside its borders. We see the future independence of the NKR as being outside those borders and it cannot be otherwise,” stated the president.

      We should remind readers that President Sahakyan has adopted a fairly clear policy on the issue which has been mainly expressed in the liberated territories. On various occasions he has stated that “the independence and security of the Republic of Mountainous Karabakh is not subject to negotiation”.

      At the same time, President Sahakyan has stressed that these territories were liberated in the early 1990’s and have been officially recognized in the NKR Constitution as constituting NKR territory, being classified as a “security zone”.

      In his remarks, President Sahakyan noted that alongside the many losses and hardships during the past 18 years, the country has registered numerous achievements that have primarily come at the cost of those who gave their lives for the benefit of Artsakh. “The people of Artsakh understand this full well and today are directed by this understanding,” he noted.

      President Sahakyan also touched upon the recent normalization protocols signed by Armenia and Turkey, saying that the process would show the international community which nation, in fact, sincerely wishes to realize such constructive relations.

      “Sadly, we are dealing with a country, Turkey, which still employs deceit as part of its political policy. We see how various Turkish officials are interpreting the protocols after having been signed. Of course, this isn’t an encouraging sign and that we shouldn’t expect the establishment of sincere and open relations. However, I believe, that the Armenian people will come out the winner in this process since Armenia’s intentions are sincere,” commented President Sahakyan.

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        Azerbaijani soldiers hit mine
        Three soldiers of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces have hit mine.

        13:37

        The blast injured the soldiers, including Nemat Mammadov, 20, Sadig Atayev, 20 and and Nurlan Rahimov, 20.

        The Ministry of Defense Spokesman Eldar Sabiroglu confirmed the incident, but refused to give a detailed report.

        The injured soldiers have been taken to the military hospital in the Sarijali town of Agdam. The state of the two of them is serious.

        12:28

        Today in the morning, the vehicle of the Defense Ministry military unit has struck the mine in the Minakhorlu village of the Agjabadi region.

        According to preliminary data, the blast injured soldiers Nemat Mammadov, Sadiq Atayev and Nurlan Rahimov.

        The case is under investigations.

        The Defense Ministry is expected to comment on the incident.

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          New murder in Azeri army
          19:14 / 09/04/2009



          The Azerbaijani court is soon to try the Orhan Safarov case. The sergeant killed three of his army mates.

          Elmar Sabiroghlu, the Head of the Press Service, Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, reported that 23-year-old Safarov, who was called up last January, killed Talekh Khidayatov, Ramin Atashev and Shahriyar Gasanov at the firing ground in the military unit near the village of Seifali, Shamkhor region. He also wounded Pyunkhan Gasanov and Mustafa Saifulov. According to unofficial information, Safarov had been harassed by the victims.

          Sabiroghlu stated the Ministry of Defense is extremely concerned over the “unpleasant incidents” in some military units in Azerbaijan.

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            this is probably bullxxxx but:

            Armenians launch offensive in Aghdam frontline, 5 Armenian soldiers killed

            [ 10 Sep 2009 11:40 ]
            Aghdam. Teymour Zahidoglu –APA. Armenian armed forces launched the offensive toward Aghdam region of Azerbaijan at about 9.23 on Thursday, APA Karabakh bureau reports.

            There was intensive shooting between the Armenians and Azerbaijani soldiers. The enemy’s attack was prevented and five Armenian soldiers were killed and three wounded seriously in the shooting. Soldier of Azerbaijani Army Yusubov Parviz Gulbala, 19, who was called up by military commissariat of Guba region, was wounded in the back. He was taken to the military hospital. Doctors said his condition was critical.



            Armenias rebuttal

            Official Baku again engaged in misinformation
            10.09.2009 14:22 GMT+04:00
            /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Disseminated today by the Azeri media the information that “the Armenian forces took the offensive in the Aghdam direction, resulted in 5 Armenian soldiers killed and 3 wounded” is another fabrication of Baku. As the press office of the NKR Defense Army told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter, the Armenian forces completely control the situation both in Aghdam, and along the whole line of contact between NKR Defense army and Azerbaijan’s military forces.

            APA Azeri news agency reported today that the armed forces of Armenia on September 10 at 9:23 took the offensive in the direction of Agdam district. During shooting, allegedly, 5 Armenian soldiers were killed and 3 others injured. There were allegedly wounded from the Azerbaijani side.
            Last edited by ninetoyadome; 09-10-2009, 09:54 AM.

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              Samvel Karapetyan – Cultural Genocide Awaits Any Liberated Lands Returned to Azerbaijan

              Samvel Karapetyan, Director of the RoA Branch of the Armenian Architectural Research Center, today stated that Armenians have already made a detrimental concession as evidenced that it is twenty years that Northern Artsakh has been depopulated of Armenians. “We talk about and brag about the fact that we are ready to make painful concessions, but we have already done so,” stated the outspoken Mr. Karapetyan at a press conference held today.

              He went on to say that this fact has not been noted anywhere in Armenia and that it does not bode well for Armenian diplomatic moves in the future. “He, who has lost out and is not aware of the fact, is bound to lose again.”

              Mr. Karapetyan rhetorically asked what di the RoA Ministry of Foreign Affairs, headed by Vardan Oskanian, do when the Armenian cemetery in Jugha was desecrated and destroyed recently, an event that Mr. Karapetyan described as a posthumous second genocide of the Armenians of Nakhijevan.

              The specialist said that Armenia must speak tio the world in the language of culture and that instead of babbling about concessions, Armenia must make the world understand that if any territories were to be returned to Azerbaijan the entire world would suffer from a cultural standpoint.

              “We didn’t have the self-dignity to make the world comprehend the scope of our loss that if we make a line in the sand and give back territory on the other side to the Azeris that all cultural traces and history will be wiped away. Yes, Armenians will be the first victims but world culture will come out a loser as well,” Mr. Karapetyan noted, adding that if we had devoted our energies in this direction at the time we would have garnered much moral support.

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                Is this true ?

                According to Azerbaijani media, their soldiers killed 5 Armenian Soldiers.


                5 Armenian soldiers killed near Karabagh

                Armenian soldiers opened fire on Azeri armed forces in the Agdam district.

                Posted 10.09.2009 10:12:03 UTC
                Updated 10.09.2009 10:15:41 UTC

                5 Armenian soldiers were killed in clashes between Azeri and Armenian soldiers in the Agdam district, said officials Thursday.

                Reportedly, Armenian soldiers opened fire on Azeri armed forces with Azeri soldiers responding to the attack. 5 Armenian soldiers were killed and 3 others were wounded. Officials also said that 1 Azeri soldier was severely injured by Armenian fire at the onset.

                Clashes between both sides that man the frontline erupted in 1988 and turned into a war after both sides declared independence. The Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Azerbaijan signed a ceasefire in 1994 in Bishkek to avert further violence.

                One-fifth of Azerbaijan's territory still remains under Armenian invasion. Some 6 Azeri soldiers were killed in gunfire initiated by Armenia so far.
                http://www.trt-world.com/trtinternat...9-f0710c57a598

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                  Originally posted by Yakamoz View Post
                  Is this true ?

                  According to Azerbaijani media, their soldiers killed 5 Armenian Soldiers.
                  Artsakh has refuted this and called it propaganda and misinformation.
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                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    Samvel Karapetyan – Cultural Genocide Awaits Any Liberated Lands Returned to Azerbaijan

                    Samvel Karapetyan, Director of the RoA Branch of the Armenian Architectural Research Center, today stated that Armenians have already made a detrimental concession as evidenced that it is twenty years that Northern Artsakh has been depopulated of Armenians. “We talk about and brag about the fact that we are ready to make painful concessions, but we have already done so,” stated the outspoken Mr. Karapetyan at a press conference held today.

                    He went on to say that this fact has not been noted anywhere in Armenia and that it does not bode well for Armenian diplomatic moves in the future. “He, who has lost out and is not aware of the fact, is bound to lose again.”

                    Mr. Karapetyan rhetorically asked what di the RoA Ministry of Foreign Affairs, headed by Vardan Oskanian, do when the Armenian cemetery in Jugha was desecrated and destroyed recently, an event that Mr. Karapetyan described as a posthumous second genocide of the Armenians of Nakhijevan.

                    The specialist said that Armenia must speak tio the world in the language of culture and that instead of babbling about concessions, Armenia must make the world understand that if any territories were to be returned to Azerbaijan the entire world would suffer from a cultural standpoint.

                    “We didn’t have the self-dignity to make the world comprehend the scope of our loss that if we make a line in the sand and give back territory on the other side to the Azeris that all cultural traces and history will be wiped away. Yes, Armenians will be the first victims but world culture will come out a loser as well,” Mr. Karapetyan noted, adding that if we had devoted our energies in this direction at the time we would have garnered much moral support.

                    http://hetq.am/en/society/s-karapetyan/

                    What kind of spineless politicians we have in Armenia? I don't understand to which day they are waiting, to the complete demease of both our lands? What is the Tashnagtsoutyoun and the Jarankoutyoun parties waiting for? For when... which day??? Now is the exact time to act. They have to put their heads together and fight politically, culturally and every which way. This is the day to do it.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Yakamoz View Post
                      Is this true ?

                      According to Azerbaijani media, their soldiers killed 5 Armenian Soldiers.
                      look at post 905. i posted the rebuttal from the Armenian side.

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