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Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

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  • #11
    Re: Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

    Well actually after the Azeri bolsheviks said, Artaskh, Nakhichevan, and Zangezur belonged to us vladamir lennin's response was

    "Vladimir Lenin, although welcoming this act of "great Soviet fraternity" where "boundaries had no meaning among the family of Soviet peoples," did not agree with the motion and instead called for the people of Nakhchivan to be consulted in a referendum."

    That's how we lost Nakhichevan
    Always thought it was Stalin and Lenin didn't do much he just didn't care what was being done.

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    • #12
      Re: Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

      Originally posted by ara87 View Post
      While notions of pan Turkism are alive in some places, it's ultimately dead and as far as becoming 1 nation goes, if it wasn't azerbaijan would have already ceded itself to Turkey, also Kazakhstan, and the other Turkic nations while being friendly with the Turks of Turkey do not want to be under their control, and already do business with them anyways.

      The Russians/USSR stirred up the greatness we had going with the Azeri's. The Azeri bolsheviks sided with Armenia and said Nakhichevan, Artsakh, and Zangezur belonged to us

      "As of today, the old frontiers between Armenia and Azerbaijan are declared to be non-existent. Mountainous Karabagh, Zangezur and Nakhchivan are recognised to be integral parts of the Socialist Republic of Armenia"

      Nariman Narimanov Bolshevik Leader of Azerbijan.

      As for the USSR being under the control of Judeo-Bolsheviks, while the people in charge may have been of judeo origin, thee people who followed them were russians. While the bolshevik revolution has considerable questionable financing, it could not have happened if the people of Russia didn't support it either.

      Pan-turkism is alive for turkey and azerbaijan. For the former it is more of a way to advance their interests in central asia and the caspian under the guise of brotherhood. For the latter it is a wet dream but also has pragmatic roles too, in that they need something for their sheeple to believe in since they are a fake nation to begin with and the turkish population also buys into the 2 nations 1 people bs, so it adds pressure on official ankara not to concede anything to Armenia.

      Read about the Armenian-tatar wars of the late 19th and early 20th century. All the bolsheviks manganed to do was to divide and conquer as they did in central asia too. It is unlikely that even if Armenia and azerbaijan had not been taken over by the bolsheviks that there would have been war between the two, as there was in 1919.

      I do not doubt that a number of ethnic Russians supported the bolsheviks. Yet if you look at which ethnic group suffered the most under the bolshevik regime, it was ethnic Russians. We can argue about percentages of which nation suffered the most based on the population of those people within the ussr, but by sheer numbers, ethnic Russians suffered the most.

      I also realize that during the late Tsarist period there were some anti-Armenian laws passed and there was a policy of trying to Russify the people of the Transcaucasus. This of course is a great shame and I hope Russia does not try it again. However, the point remains the same, all countries look after their interests first and foremost, with great powers they have more power and therefore more say. With respect to american and Russian interests in the Caucasus, we fit in positively with the Russian interests, with american interests it is cloudy and I would venture to say negative.
      Last edited by Armanen; 10-10-2009, 12:58 PM.
      For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
      to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



      http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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      • #13
        Re: Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

        Originally posted by ara87 View Post
        While notions of pan Turkism are alive in some places, it's ultimately dead and as far as becoming 1 nation goes, if it wasn't azerbaijan would have already ceded itself to Turkey, also Kazakhstan, and the other Turkic nations while being friendly with the Turks of Turkey do not want to be under their control, and already do business with them anyways.
        Here are some sense. Yes, it is dead. Just a dream.

        BTW, its funny that Russia supports both Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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        • #14
          Re: Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

          Originally posted by Army View Post
          Here are some sense. Yes, it is dead. Just a dream.

          BTW, its funny that Russia supports both Armenia and Azerbaijan.
          For geopolitical and economic reasons aka like Baku's oil.

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          • #15
            Re: Deconstructing the Defense of the Protocols

            I try to read all these books you once read before and of course this time I promise myself not to disappear and read these lovely books by you, thank you.


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