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  • In Der Ezzor

    i don't want to make any political statement because this isn't a subject to bargan with or to score points or I don't know what I just wanna post this beautiful speach made by our president Serj Sarksian. It isn't important who made the speech I would have posted this no matter who gives it. May all you who have fallen to the great injustice rest in peace and may God give us the chance the will the determination to go back to Van, Moush, Sasoun, Garin, Sepastia, Dikranagerd, Giligia ... to our homland raise the yerakouyn up high pray so that the one and a half million would really rest in their unknown graves.








    Azg Daily, Armenia
    March 25 2010

    REMARKS BY PRESIDENT SERZH SARGSYAN IN DEIR EZ ZOR

    24.03.2010


    Your Eminencies,

    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    I am here today since I could not but be here. It is the greatest
    grief of my nation that has brought me here, the grief of the first
    genocide of the 20th century and the greatest disgrace of the
    civilized humanity. Up to this moment, in the 21st century, the stigma
    of that disgrace still remains on the foreheads of all those who have
    turned the denial of the evident facts into their policy, turned it
    into their bargaining chip and into their lifestyle and norm of
    behavior.

    In the desert of Deir ez Zor the most monstrous acts of the tragedy
    had taken place, and it is neither possible to articulate the
    particulars of that tragedy in the language of human beings, nor am I
    going do that since these particulars are well-known even to those who
    publicly deny the veracity of the Genocide. Bereft of home and
    property, bereft of children and parents, bereft of health and the
    last hope, and finally bereft of the most important ` their homeland,
    these people were doomed to lose the last thing they had ` their life
    in accordance with the state orchestrated and meticulously developed
    plan of extermination.

    Quite often historians and journalists soundly compare Deir ez Zor
    with Auschwitz saying that "Deir ez Zor is the Auschwitz of the
    Armenians". I think that the chronology forces us to formulate the
    facts in a reverse way: "Auschwitz is the Deir ez Zor of the xxxs".
    Only a generation later the humanity witnessed the Deir ez Zor of the
    xxxs. Today, as the President of the Republic of Armenia, the homeland
    of all Armenians, I am here to ask: "Where and when will be held our
    Nuremberg?"

    I'm here to commemorate and to pray for the vast majority of my
    slaughtered nation that had suffered both physical and cultural
    extermination. I will elaborate neither on the quality, nor on the
    quantity of the loss. Let me recall a single fact: as a result of the
    Genocide the greatest share of the dialects of one of the most ancient
    Indo-European languages - the Armenian ` had been irreversibly
    eradicated along with its speakers.

    In spite of all that happened, we say that we are ready to establish
    normal diplomatic relations with the modern Turkey, we are ready to
    have open borders and economic relations, we are ready to make efforts
    towards building confidence between the peoples of Armenia and Turkey,
    we are ready to bring closer the two societies by breaking stereotypes
    and myths that have nothing to do with the reality and developed in
    decades of dearth of any sensible contacts.

    We do this sincerely since we believe that there is no alternative to
    the living and development between the neighbors through
    implementation of what is proposed and still at the table, at least to
    start it up. The signing of the Armenian-Turkish protocols presented
    us with an historic opportunity that should have a logical destine.

    We, however, do not accept the style of references to the
    Armenian-Turkish dialogue in attempts to avoid the recognition of the
    Genocide. I do not think it helps the process. Moreover, it is
    irrelevant to cite some Commission of Historians, since the
    Armenian-Turkish protocols provide for merely a governmental
    sub-commission on historic dimension. I assume everyone understands
    what it means and what the difference is. I ask all those who will
    have an occasion to elaborate or express themselves on the topic of
    the recognition of the Armenian Genocide: remember of this desert,
    millions of ruined human fortunes and this ancient people deprived of
    their motherland and with pain in their hearts, before you make up
    your minds.

    In 1915 the greatest Armenian poets of the 20th century - 35 years old
    Daniel Varuzhan and 37 years old Atom Yarjanian (Siamanto) had also
    been slaughtered. Before being tortured to death, they were undressed,
    because they wore European clothes. In those times and places European
    clothes were quite expensive. The executioners dressed up into the
    European clothes - stolen from the Armenian geniuses encompassing
    millennia old civilization, stolen from ordinary Armenians.

    I would not interpret symbols signified in these images but I am
    unequivocally convinced: while preaching European apparel, manners or
    values no one has a right to cast these images in oblivion.

    I am here to remind of the well-known words: "It is impossible to kill
    a nation that does not want to die". We mean to live and to grow. It
    is no more possible to intimidate or blackmail us since we have seen
    the most horrible. We shall continue to live and create with double
    vigor for us and for our innocent victims. We look forward since we
    have a lot to say and to share with each other, a lot to say and to
    share with the world: the brightness and glow that Daniel Varuzhan and
    Atom Yarjanian had no chance to share.

    And here, in Deir ez Zor, we firmly and loudly say over and over again
    that we are, shall exist and will flourish.

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    Re: In Der Ezzor

    Yes indid. I was impressed as well.....

    I am here to ask: "Where and when will be held our
    Nuremberg?"
    .....

    brilliant...

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    • #3
      Re: In Der Ezzor

      A wonderfull speech spoken by our leader. It will be interesting to watch what the votes in spain and isreal will be regarding our genocide.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • #4
        Re: In Der Ezzor

        I agree, puts the genocide deniers to shame.

        But the UK chickened out as usual:

        Genocide | 30.03.10 | 14:36
        Doomed to Failure: British House of Lords not excited about the Armenian Genocide Resolution

        By Karine Ionesyan
        ArmeniaNow reporter
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        Draft resolution on the Armenia Genocide was discussed at UK House of Lords yesterday, March 29; however, it was not put to vote.

        The discussion was initiated by Baroness Caroline Cox, who appealed “to recognize the mass massacres committed against Armenians in Ottoman Turkey as Genocide.” During the hour-long discussion, Cox, presenting different facts, stated that “it is high time to join the civilized nations which recognized the Armenian Genocide, especially given the fact that this year marks the 95th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide committed in 1915.”

        Baroness Glenys Kinnock was against the initiative: she, as Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty reports, suggested evading the usage of the word ‘genocide’ in order not to hinder the normalization of the Armenian-Turkish relations.

        Prior to the discussions Armenian Solidarity Organization (ASO) in UK released and distributed a statement and special booklets to British lawmakers criticizing UK Secretary of State for Justice, Lord Chancellor Jack Straw.

        According to ASO, at his meeting with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan – while he was on a visit in London – Straw promised that the UK would not adopt the draft resolution on the Armenian Genocide.

        The statement says “We appeal to the British lawmakers to put pressure upon the UK prime minister to reprimand Jack Straw for the denial of the Armenian Holocaust.”

        Armenian experts in Turkish studies, based not only on Straw’s position but also similar with his statements by some other British high ranking officials – including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown – believe that the discussion at the House of Lords was simply an initiative of several individuals, which, however, will yield no result.

        “I believe that this initiative hundred percent doomed to failure, because Great Britain has always been straightforward, openly making it clear that it was not interested in risking Turkish-British relations,” expert in Turkish studies Artak Shakaryan told ArmeniaNow.

        Within the recent month, resolutions on the Armenian Genocide have been adopted by US House Appropriations Committee (March 4) and the Parliament of Sweden (March 12).

        Last edited by hipeter924; 03-30-2010, 03:19 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: In Der Ezzor

          Typical British bull crap. Out of all the countries in europe i never had the desire to visit England. The snobishness is what putts me off plus their international policies.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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