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  • #11
    Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    I would say the Dashnaks have the most resource, because of the fact that they are based all over the world and have the most members.
    I doubt whether the Armenian Government would tolerate outside (from abroad ) entities financing local parties.
    No Government ( or society) would tolerate that.
    Being Armenian or not should be irrelevant.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • #12
      Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      I was wondering what people think, there has been a lot of discussion about what parties are good or bad, who is supported by West or Russia, etc.
      I hope you meant approval.

      Our political parties and elections should not be based on “outside support".
      One of the most important tenets of democracy ( & independence).
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #13
        Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        A mere tweak of the electoral laws would make such Dashnak resources worthless overnight. Maybe such laws already exist, forbidding foreign funding of political parties in Armenia.

        If Russia funded a political party in the UK it would be an unprecedented scandal.

        Why should you be surprised if the same principle applied to Armenia.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • #14
          Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

          Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
          The party in power always has the best resources.
          The reason is the party in power uses Government resources to drive its campaign.

          In most Democratic countries there is clear segregation between party and government resources.
          As it should be.
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • #15
            Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            I hope you meant approval.

            Our political parties and elections should not be based on “outside support".
            One of the most important tenets of democracy ( & independence).
            Well ltp and his 'party' were supported by george soros. Many small nations and not so small nations have been funded by outside sources.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



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            • #16
              Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              A mafia-like gang acting to maintain and expand its own self-interests is not a true political party, even if it members move on from just threatening or bribing the electorate or elected politicians to actually being the elected politicians.
              I agree, the BHK is simply Dodi Gago's way of seizing more power than he already has. He wants to legitimise and clear up his name/reputation but i'm not sure if this is the right way to do it. On the contrary, it makes him look more corrupt. He should follow Vivacell's model of corporate responsibility rather than a political career.

              Anyway, what is the main ideological difference between the Republican Party and Prosperous Armenia party? They are both conservative and centre-right on the political spectrum. Why should someone choose the HHK over the BHK for example? Is it simply a choice between SS or Dodi Gago? If so, it's fkn ridiculous. Armenia probably has the highest ratio of political parties/citizen in the world )) . Just look at this list of political parties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_in_Armenia lol.

              As for richest, within Armenia it's either HHK or BHK just by the oligarch ties and government resources available to them. Worldwide and potentially, it's the ARF by far although I would not rule out the Ramgavar party of being rich as well given their not-so-secret-anymore ties to the AGBU.
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              • #17
                Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                If Russia funded a political party in the UK it would be an unprecedented scandal.

                Why should you be surprised if the same principle applied to Armenia.
                There is a difference between forbidding a foreign power to fund Armenian political parties, and forbidding rich individuals who live outside Armenia from funding Armenian political parties. In the UK it is forbidden for both, and the donors of any finanncial contributions above a certain sum (I think it is £1000) have to be made public. In America, legislation introduced in the final months of Bush's regime go the other way - anyone, any organisation, any foreign power, can now contribute anonymously to funding US political parties there - as long as its done indirectly via US-based fundraisers who then pass on the funds to the parties.
                Plenipotentiary meow!

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                • #18
                  Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

                  Originally posted by Federate View Post
                  Armenia probably has the highest ratio of political parties/citizen in the world )) . Just look at this list of political parties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ies_in_Armenia lol.
                  Turkey has about as many (though a bigger population) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ties_in_Turkey

                  I'm surprised Georgia hasn't many - doesn't everyone in Georgia think they too should be president sometime? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...orgia_(country)

                  And what do all those in Azerbaijan do? Take turns in making Aliyev's tea? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._in_Azerbaijan
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #19
                    Re: Richest political party in Armenia?

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    There is a difference between forbidding a foreign power to fund Armenian political parties, and forbidding rich individuals who live outside Armenia from funding Armenian political parties. In the UK it is forbidden for both, and the donors of any finanncial contributions above a certain sum (I think it is £1000) have to be made public. In America, legislation introduced in the final months of Bush's regime go the other way - anyone, any organisation, any foreign power, can now contribute anonymously to funding US political parties there - as long as its done indirectly via US-based fundraisers who then pass on the funds to the parties.
                    Thank you for your two examples.
                    The principles applied to both cases differ widely.

                    Therefore Armenia could introduce “any” legislation that it sees fit
                    without offending the sensitivities of the foreign “democracy lovers” !!!
                    ( democracy lovers, my xss).
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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