Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

[Federate]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

Inch e nshanakum BS Shivini jan ?

Kovu kak

[Qami]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

Inch e nshanakum BS Shivini jan ?

[Zartonq]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

He must have overdosed on his own bs.

[Qami]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

Does somebody has his mail? beacuse he has written some interesting things i would like to ask him...

[Federate]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

No, he got banned temporarily for misbehaviour and when he was unbanned, he never came back.

[Qami]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

Do somebody know if the user Persepolis is still active?

[Zartonq]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

"2,000 [fn 1] years ago the world’s total population was about 300 million – today it’s about 7 billion. In other words, during the time Persians and Armenians started intermarrying the world’s population was 2,333 times smaller. If you consider the population of Armenia today (about 3 million) and you reduce it to the time-periods in history when Persians and Armenians started intermarrying, you see that Armenians were a small group. Using my rough numbers one can extrapolate that all of Armenia would have had something like 1,285 people 2,000 years ago – at most it was just a little village. For the sake of Argument let’s overestimate and pretend Armenia had 20,000 people 2,000 years ago. Nevertheless, do you know how quickly intermarriage for centuries with Persians (a much more populous group) would have become part of the Armenian genetic family tree? Very quickly. Now consider that this intermarriage went on for centuries; that Armenia was a part of Persia; that the Armenian Kings came from Persian ancestry; and in the oldest pictures of Armenians more than 2,000 years old, Armenians look like Iranians. There’s only one conclusion one can draw. "

The absurdity is simply overwhelming.

[lampron]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

estrang Parsic chen.....Iran is a very multi-ethnic groups with centuries of intermixing which makes up Iranians. True Persian are now down to 45%. Throw in Arab factor with religion then you can get an Idea.

We Armenian in Iran have never been in that mix and have always managed to maintain our own unique ancient roots from our way of life. It has been objective number one, ask any Paskahay who has been an adult in Iran.

We look different as well against our Persian friends and the Iranians can tell right away from looks (most of the time) that we are Armenians. We also speak Farsi with a strong Armenian accent.

The region of north west Iran used to be Armenia more than 1,000 years ago.
In classical times (say before Christianity), there was probably nothing to stop Persians and Armenians mixing in that region

[Persopolis]

Re: Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?

See post 77: This thread is about family relationships / DNA / Assimilation: Title = "Are Iranian-Armenians Iranian? What is Armenian Assimilation?" The Only Topical Comments & Responses are at Posts 1 & 15-18.

It happens all of the time: Mahaya Petrossian actually moved to London and found an Iranian guy there ... I wish her happiness.

LONDON, October 24 (IranMania) - The well-known Armenian actress of Iranian origin, Mahaya Petrossian converted to Shia Islam last week. According to the Sunday issue of the Persian morning daily of Tosse'e quoting Khurshid website, she converted to Islam following her marriage to a Muslim young man. Speaking to Khurshid reporter, she confirmed the report and said that she had been in doubt for a long time whether to remain a Christian or convert to Islam. "However, what happened in my personal life, namely my marriage to a Muslim man, put an end to my doubt and I eventually became a Muslim," added the actress.

[KarotheGreat]

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At least your remarks were more intelligent than the others -- Here's the context in Chronological order:

1. I asserted that the Ottoman-Turks and Iran had military conflicts for which Armenia came into play. (The real subject matter at hand is the birth of children that occurs during military incursions, as being relevant to the subject of assimilation). http://www.armenica.org/cgi-bin/arme...=10=nada=1=3=A

2. The subsequent comment from "Haysip" was topical to the question of assimilation (changes in the Armenian gene pool) wherein he asserted "those babies that were not Armenian were being destroyed." In other words, he asserts that Armenians kept themselves "pure" of the genes of invaders.

3. One of the guys above (don't really want to waste my life identifying who) -- seemingly having nothing topical to write -- decided to assert that the Ottoman advance did not originate from West of Iran (where Ottoman-Turkey is actually located). In trying to keep close to the subject at hand I pointed out that others groups from the Northern caucuses also invaded Armenia (and made babies = let's call it 'genetic assimilation' for purposes of simplicity).

It's a tangential point, but what is funny is that my version is consistent with the Armenian version. Here's one example and you can find dozens more at the same link run by Armenica.org: http://www.armenica.org/cgi-bin/arme...=10=nada=1=3=A



A similar scenario also played out with Shah Abbas - but several of the characters above rely on the history lessons they were given in bars and bus stops (so it's not really worth responding to - I generally just ignore off-point remarks).

The real point is that there was modification of the gene pool inherent with various military incursions into Armenia -- i.e., the subject of this thread.

1. Now you are trying to change what you said, you said that Armenia was the easiest way to attack Iran and implied that Turkish tribes and Arabs used Armenia to invade Iran.
2.I went ahead and searched the definition of assimilation for you, because to me it seems you do not know what assimilation means and it has nothing to do with the genes at all. Shocking isn't it?

as·sim·i·la·tion (-sm-lshn)
n.
1.
a. The act or process of assimilating.
b. The state of being assimilated.
2. Physiology The conversion of nutriments into living tissue; constructive metabolism.
3. Linguistics The process by which a sound is modified so that it becomes similar or identical to an adjacent or nearby sound. For example, the prefix in- becomes im- in impossible by assimilation to the labial p of possible.
4. The process whereby a minority group gradually adopts the customs and attitudes of the prevailing culture.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/assimilation

3.the quote that you have posted has nothing to do with what you said. You never said one of the things that has been said in the quote. You love pulling things out of your ass don't you?

You're point is that Armenians are Iranians and should be part of Greater Iran, that's the point you are trying to make not that there was a modification of the gene pool or anything else.