Who owns what in Armenia

[lampron]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

Corruption is bad
Stealing is bad

........which comes to a total of 15-17 million dollars from all of the diaspora we have something like 8-10 million people in the diaspora if you divide 17 million by 10 million it equates to $1.70 per person. this is the best we can do.

shameful!

* setting up an account in the diaspora where every Armenian puts in $100 per month into this account and this account is used strictly for military for ROA.
* setting up an account where we help the pensioners of ROA.
* ETC

good suggestions!

[Gevz]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

@gevz
I assume you are not condoning corruption but rather you prefer to concentrate on the positive.
Would like your point of view on the governor of siunik.

Governor of syunik is a criminal - we know this - we have known about this for years - we have been reporting about it for years - he lost his job briefly and returned - by reporting every day have they got anywhere with it ?

Has he

1. Been locked up? No
2. Has he lost a sleep about it? No
3. Is he still the governor? Yes
4. Have we changed anything about it by reporting almost everyday about it ? No

Corruption Is evil it happens everywhere around the world even the most developed nations have this problem. We have only had independence for over 20 years now things take time.

I was reading an article in this article this 'journalist' complains everyday about corruption/how the government of ROA is stealing money and are criminals and then I heard that when the time came for this pathetic journalist son to be sent to the army 'the journalist went and paid a large sum of cash so his son don't go to the frontline to serve' can you frigggen believe this xxxx????????????????????????????????????? you report about it day in day out but you go and do it. pathetic

See what I mean?

[Gevz]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

@gevz
It is scary if a lot of people think like you. So your conclusion would be " They steal , but well we should be happy because they build things with the money they steal ."

Corruption is bad
Stealing is bad

BUT we don't need to be reminded 24/7 about it. They have been reporting about it for the last 10 years every single day pages full of negative stuff has it got us anywhere? Besides making hard working people read things like this and buying a ticket and leaving the country??????????????????????? I live in a country which is considered pretty developed although it is a backwards country - it has corruption everywhere BUT the media report on it 1%. Do you think the media can't get access to most things that are happening to report about????????? they can but they don't.

Get over it.
Report something positive
Do something positive.

When I say about oligarchs they steal since they are In power they don't really need to answer for anything right? So by stealing they don't really need to invest anything in Armenia they can take all the stolen money buy a ticket and invest all that money in another 'fabulous' country and leaving no investments in Armenia or no creation of jobs from he investments.

We In the diaspora love sitting around a coffee table and talking how corrupt Armenia is, how bad things are and when it comes to telethon time these same people donate money........which comes to a total of 15-17 million dollars from all of the diaspora we have something like 8-10 million people in the diaspora if you divide 17 million by 10 million it equates to $1.70 per person. this is the best we can do.

Instead of wasting energy on reporting on rubbish that gets you nowhere - why not think of ways that you can help the country? remember you are not helping serzhik buy a new rolls Royce. you can help directly and no 17million that Is raised Is not helping. How about

* setting up an account in the diaspora where every Armenian puts in $100 per month into this account and this account is used strictly for military for ROA.
* setting up an account where we help the pensioners of ROA.
* ETC

[Zeytun]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

@gevz
It is scary if a lot of people think like you. So your conclusion would be " They steal , but well we should be happy because they build things with the money they steal ."

[Artashes]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

@gevz
I assume you are not condoning corruption but rather you prefer to concentrate on the positive.
Would like your point of view on the governor of siunik.

[Gevz]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

We Armenians are a funny bunch.

We complain because nothing new is being built in the country.
We complain because certain people have huge sums of money.
We complain about corruption.
We complain because the government sucks.
We complain about how privatization is bad.


We Armenians complain about anything and everything.

When people/oligarchs build something new and create jobs - WE STILL COMPLAIN/ Have you ever thought about the oligarchs taking the money out of Armenia and investing elsewhere???????? since we call them criminals they can take all the money out of Armenia and invest it all somewhere else but they don't.

When we complain how the government is corrupt - most Armenians spend time looking at ways to rip off the government they think it's alright.

We complain how serzh is crap - but if you made 50 Armenians sit next to each other and write who they think should be President all 50 would say someone different and all 50 would sit and argue about each candidate until the cows come home they couldn't even agree with each other.

We should stop

Complaining
Whinging
Hating
&
Focus on rebuilding.


Ask yourself what are you doing for the homeland ??????? You don't need to send money during telethon time. You don't need to send money to Serzh's bank account. You can do your part on your own without telling anybody directly by skipping all BS organisations.

Instead of doing that.

Most Armenians sit and read BS news like.

Lragir
Armenianow
1in
Azatutuyn

And draw a conclusion that Armenia is finished/dieing nation/serzh is evil/government is corrupt we need to change the government. AS IF YOU WOULDN'T STEAL MONEY if you somehow became President of a country.............

The ones that.......................are complaining that government is corrupt like raffi the moron hovhanissyan are just jealous they are not the ones eating the money they are not doing it because they care about the future of Armenia.

[londontsi]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

[Mher]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

Governor’s Son ‘Not In Armenia’ After Fresh Violence

Hovannes Movsisian եւ Karlen Aslanian
Հրապարակված է՝ 15.05.2015

Armenian law-enforcement authorities claim to have failed to track down a notorious son of a regional governor after belatedly pledging to question him in connection with yet another violent assault allegedly provoked by him.

Tigran Khachatrian was reportedly among several dozen men who beat up and seriously injured two other local residents of his hometown, Goris, on May 2. Harut Zakarian lost vision in one eye while his elder brother Mushegh suffered a broken nose.

The brothers claim that the attackers were led by the 22-year-old Khachatrian, whose father Suren is the governor of Armenia’s Syunik province encompassing Goris. The governor, who himself has a long history of violent conduct, has insisted that his son is innocent.

The Investigative Committee, a law-enforcement body dealing with the criminal case, pledged to detain and question Tigran Khachatrian as a witness only on Tuesday, ten days after the violence, following a barrage of media criticism and renewed allegations of impunity enjoyed by the Khachatrian family.

The committee said two days later, however, that Khachatrian is “absent” from the country. It said it is taking all necessary measures to locate and interrogate the young man.

Khachatrian’s official status as a mere “witness” of the May 2 beatings means that the Armenian police will not launch a hunt for him.
Armenia - Suren Khachatrian at a public event in Yerevan, 19Aug2014.Armenia - Suren Khachatrian at a public event in Yerevan, 19Aug2014.

The violence occurred almost two years after Tigran Khachatrian shot and killed a man outside his family’s home in Goris. He was arrested but cleared of murder charges and set free two months later. Law-enforcement authorities said the shooting constituted legitimate self-defense.

For his part, Suren Khachatrian, who is a senior member of President Serzh Sarkisian’s Republican Party (HHK), was sacked by the Armenian government in connection with the killing. He was reinstated as Syunik governor a year later.

HHK representatives have been reluctant to comment on the latest embarrassing case involving the Goris clan. “Regardless of whose son, relative, friend or neighbor he is, if a person breaks the law he must be punished,” the party spokesman, Eduard Sharmazanov, said late on Thursday. “This is our position in general.”

“As for this particular case, I am not aware of its details,” Sharmazanov claimed.

Armenian opposition politicians, meanwhile, laughed off the authorities’ claims that they have been unable to get Khachatrian’s son to answer their questions about the May 2 incident. “They can track down and detain people within an hour when they want to,” quipped Gagik Jahangirian, a former senior prosecutor who is now a parliament deputy affiliated with the opposition Armenian National Congress (HAK).

Levon Zurabian, another senior HAK figure, also scoffed at the Investigative Committee’s “Orwellian” explanation. He said the Khachatrian family is getting away with yet another crime because President Sarkisian continues to heavily rely on individuals like the Syunik governor in holding on to power.

“Their whole power is based on such characters who plunder the country with impunity and then rig elections with impunity, ensuring the regime’s survival,” Zurabian told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am) on Friday. “How can they punish people that form the basis of their power?”

Official results of Armenian elections held over the past decade have shown President Sarkisian and his Republican Party (HHK) winning more votes in Syunik than in any other part of the country.

http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/27018930.html

[Shant03]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

That whole mafia mentality is a big problem for all Armenians. A mafia style of government is all we have known since we have not governed ourselves in a long time. The problem is that this type of mentality will not build a country you will want to live in. If we Armenians are to succeed in forming a viable state/nation we will have to get rid of some of our old habits.

All i'm saying is diaspora till now has operated in diplomatic ways and while semi-successful abroad, their efforts are nearly non existent in Armenia. I could be wrong of course, but i dno i'm saying diaspora should be more involved and have semi control of that countries government to make sure it remains independent, not saying we should be killing people or anything.

[londontsi]

Re: Who owns what in Armenia

Diaspora should operate more like a mafia. For example: anytime there is a family or specific political figure compromising our goals for Armenia to be prosperous. Diaspora should have personnel to go in and remove this person from authority. I feel like hereyas have this down.

The whole purpose of the mafia or organised criminal syndicate is to suck the blood of the common people.

In essence it is the enemy of the people.

Do not know why you wish such a fate to our people, at any level.

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