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    RUSSIA TO INTRODUCE TURKIC 'ALTYN' IN EURASIA TO CHALLENGE EURO, DOLLAR

    Daily Sabah, Turkey
    Sept 10 2015

    DAILY SABAH WITH WIRES
    ISTANBUL

    Belarusian PM Andrei Kobyakov, Kazakhstan's 1st Deputy PM Bakytzhan
    Sagintayev, Kyrgyzstan's PM Temir Sariyev and Russian PM Dmitry
    Medvedev pose for a group photo during the meeting of EAEC in Grodno,
    Belarus, September 8 (EPA Photo).

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin has submitted a bill to the
    Parliament on August 28 to reduce the usage of the U.S. dollar and
    euro in transactions between the Commonwealth of Independent States
    (CIS) members amid deepening worries of the global economy, falling oil
    prices and the West's sanctions aiming to cripple the Russian economy.

    The idea of a common currency has long been discussed for former
    Soviet republics and Asian economies, which are now organized under
    international organizations such as the CIS, Shanghai Cooperation
    Organization (SCO) and Eurasian Economic Union (EEU). The latter,
    which is comprised of Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and
    Russia, is more closer to switch to a common currency than the rest,
    and the proposed name, "altyn," is familiar for Turkish speakers.

    Several news outlets from the region reported that the proposed name
    for the common currency will be a Turkic one, "altyn," the word for
    gold in Turkic languages, which is planned to be introduced by 2020
    or 2025.

    The article below published by Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty,
    explains why this name was chosen and its historical significance.

    Goodbye Dollar, Hello Altyn? In Ex-Soviet Union, Possible Future
    Currency Has Rich Past - by Merhat Sharipzhan

    When Russian President Vladimir Putin submitted a bill aimed to help
    de-dollarize the post-Soviet space, it came as no surprise for many
    in the former U.S.S.R.

    On August 28, Putin asked parliament to ratify a treaty among members
    of the Commonwealth of Independent States that would expand the use
    of their national currencies -- instead of the dollar or euro --
    in foreign trade payments and financial services.

    The move came as the ruble and other currencies across the region
    continue to suffer. It followed months of calls in Russia for the
    creation of a single currency for the Eurasian Economic Union, which
    comprises Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.

    The proposed name: the "altyn."

    For many, altyn sounds less Russian than Turkic -- an impression that
    is completely accurate and raises many questions.

    The word, although not Slavic, is inseparable from the history of
    Russian statehood, as are many other Turkic-origin words related to
    the Russian government and financial system.

    So, why altyn?

    Starting in the 15th century, the altyn was a major currency in what
    we today call Russia.

    Many relate its name to the Turkic word "altyn" -- gold.

    But there is another explanation. If we look at the exchange rate
    of the altyn against another former Russian monetary unit, the denga
    (also Turkic: tanga or tenge), we will see that one altyn was equal
    to six half-dengas. Six in Turkic is "alty" -- and here lies the root
    of the currency's name.

    The Golden Horde, of which many Russian principalities and territories
    were part -- and of which Muscovite Russia was certainly a successor --
    had half-denga coins.

    Denga, like altyn, is of Turkic origin. The Russian word "dengi" --
    money -- is derived from denga.

    The altyn and the denga circulated in Russia for centuries, until the
    end of the 18th century. Later, the name altyn went completely out of
    usage after the image of St. George on a horse with a spear started
    being engraved on the back of the coin. Spear is "kop'ye" in Russian,
    and the word "altyn" was gradually replaced by a derivative of kop'ye
    -- "kopeyka" or kopeck.

    The half-kopeck coin survived the Russian Revolution and was in use
    in the Soviet Union until 1928.

    Another trace of the altyn, the three-kopeck coin, continued to
    circulate until the Soviet breakup of 1991.

    Echoes of the altyn also rang out in the Russian word "pyatialtynnik"
    or "pyatialtynny" -- meaning "five altyns" and used as a synonym for
    a 15-kopeck coin.

    As for denga, it is the root not only of the Russian "dengi" but also
    the national currency in Turkic-speaking Kazakhstan -- the tenge. Over
    in Turkmenistan, another Turkic-speaking Central Asian nation, the
    tenge is the smallest monetary unit, with 100 tenges making one manat.

    The smallest monetary unit in Kazakhstan is called the "tyin" --
    a Turkic word that was used by tens of millions of Soviet citizens
    for the Russian kopeck.

    In the Russian language, it was preserved in "poltinnik" (half-a-tyin),
    which was used originally for 50 kopecks (half a ruble), but in the
    modern Russian language is used to replace the word "fifty" -- as in
    50 rubles, or even $50.

    And someone who turns 50 in Russia might say, "Mne poltinnik stuknul"
    -- I hit 50 (or, more literally, 50 hit me).

    While history is often rewritten to serve political aims or conform to
    current societal preferences, languages still carry historic "proofs."

    The Russian history strongly connected with the history of the
    Turkic-speaking Volga area, and many regions of the North Caucasus and
    Central Asia, is a part of the common history of the former subjects
    of the Golden Horde.

    After all, such important Russian words related to statehood as "kazna"
    (state treasury), "kaznachei" (accountant), "tamozhnya" (customs) --
    from "tamga" (mark or stamp) -- are remnants of the state system of
    the empire called the Golden Horde.

    Others include "yarlyk" (label), "tyurma" (prison), "karaul" (guard),
    "yamshchik" (postman), and many more.

    We shall see whether the altyn will return to the former Soviet space.

    Or should we say the post-Golden Horde space?

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin has submitted a bill to the Parliament on August 28 to reduce the usage of the U.S. dollar and euro in transactions...

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    • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

      The storm has arrived...
      Armenia's share of EEU customs revenue for 10 months will be $31.5 million. Much lower than the expected $200 million, $250 in some cases.

      What was expected...
      Armenia’s membership in the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) will earn it about $250 million a year in customs revenues, IMF Resident Representative in Armenia Teresa Daban Sanchez said today.



      What it turned out to be...


      The state budget will shrink for the first time since independence.
      Armenia cannot withstand financial blunders of this size.

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      • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

        Originally posted by armnuke View Post
        The storm has arrived...
        Armenia's share of EEU customs revenue for 10 months will be $31.5 million. Much lower than the expected $200 million, $250 in some cases.

        What was expected...
        Armenia’s membership in the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) will earn it about $250 million a year in customs revenues, IMF Resident Representative in Armenia Teresa Daban Sanchez said today.



        What it turned out to be...


        The state budget will shrink for the first time since independence.
        Armenia cannot withstand financial blunders of this size.
        It is not a blunder. It is the result of sabotage.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          It is not a blunder. It is the result of sabotage.
          The definition of what it really is doesn't matter. Numbers speak.

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          • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

            Eurasian Union Opposes Armenian Car Tax

            Sargis Harutyunyan
            Հրապարակված է՝ 08.02.2016

            Armenia collects a 20 percent tax from cars imported from Russia and other members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) in breach of trade rules set by the Russian-led bloc, a senior EEU official said on Monday.

            Tatyana Valovaya of the Eurasian Economic Commission, the bloc’s Moscow-based executive body, said Yerevan should have abolished value-added tax (VAT) for such cars when it formally joined the EEU in January 2015.

            “The [founding] EEU treaty stipulates that the member states cannot use non-tariff protectionist barriers against each other. Nevertheless, we detect such barriers quite often,” Valovaya told reporters in a video conference from Moscow.

            “There was such a barrier [for EEU car imports] in Kazakhstan and it was eliminated,” she said. “We have now found a similar barrier in Armenia.”

            The Armenian Finance Ministry declined to comment on Valovaya’s claim or explain why VAT is still applied to EEU car imports.

            Under Armenian law, companies or private individuals have to pay VAT, in addition to a 10 percent import duty, when they import vehicles from non-EEU states. The Armenian customs service also levies an environmental tax from second-hand cars manufactured 5 or more years ago.

            Poghos Oghlukian, a self-employed car importer, claimed that the environmental tax rate is set much higher for vehicles imported from EEU states than other parts of the world, notably neighboring Georgia. This, he said, means that he now has to pay virtually the same amount of taxes for 10-year-old cars purchased in Georgia and Russia.

            “Why did we join that union?” Oghlukian told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am). “In order to make some things easier here. But as things stand now, I’m better off importing cars from Georgia than taking a much longer trip to Russia”

            Tigran Hovannisian, the chairman of the Armenian Union of Car Importers, also complained against the continuing collection of VAT from cars manufactured in Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. “It means they deceive us,” he said, referring to the Armenian government.

            Armenia collects a 20 percent tax from cars imported from Russia and other members of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) in breach of trade rules set by the Russian-led bloc, a senior EEU official said on Monday.

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            • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

              Originally posted by armnuke View Post
              The storm has arrived...
              Armenia's share of EEU customs revenue for 10 months will be $31.5 million. Much lower than the expected $200 million, $250 in some cases.

              What was expected...
              Armenia’s membership in the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) will earn it about $250 million a year in customs revenues, IMF Resident Representative in Armenia Teresa Daban Sanchez said today.



              What it turned out to be...


              The state budget will shrink for the first time since independence.
              Armenia cannot withstand financial blunders of this size.
              wow that's an unreal discrepancy. If someone can provide some real analysis for why this is, it would be greatly appreciated. It can't simply be that imports dropped by 90 percent. So is it a matter of the regulations flat out being ignored by customs control? That is if they exist at all. I know at the Armenian border with Georgia or at Zvartnots there is no form of EEU representative. Also, travelling to Armenia form Russia, there is no form of EEU representative in the Russian airport. For the most part, people are hardly aware of the EEU's existence.
              Last edited by Mher; 02-08-2016, 12:18 PM.

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              • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

                Originally posted by Mher View Post
                wow that's an unreal discrepancy. If someone can provide some real analysis for why this is, it would be greatly appreciated. It can't simply be that imports dropped by 90 percent. So is it a matter of the regulations flat out being ignored by customs control? That is if they exist at all. I know at the Armenian border with Georgia or at Zvartnots there is no form of EEU representative. Also, travelling to Armenia form Russia, there is no form of EEU representative in the Russian airport. For the most part, people are hardly aware of the EEU's existence.
                The economic situation in Russia definitely played a significant role, secondly this number is in USD, 200 million is maybe the number forecasted before the depreciation in the dram and the ruble. ( I am guessing, No infos on the matter).

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                • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

                  ^ Does anyone know if the law that has 0% tax on cars over 100k is still in effect in Armenia?

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                  • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

                    Originally posted by Mher View Post
                    wow that's an unreal discrepancy. If someone can provide some real analysis for why this is, it would be greatly appreciated. It can't simply be that imports dropped by 90 percent. So is it a matter of the regulations flat out being ignored by customs control? That is if they exist at all. I know at the Armenian border with Georgia or at Zvartnots there is no form of EEU representative. Also, travelling to Armenia form Russia, there is no form of EEU representative in the Russian airport. For the most part, people are hardly aware of the EEU's existence.
                    In the EEU, customs is collected in one account and it's split between the member states according to their percentage annual share. If I'm not mistaken, Armenian's is 1.13% of the total pool.
                    In 2015, Russian imports dropped significantly, because of the low Ruble.
                    Also, Russia stopped importing foodstuffs from the EU, US, and other countries. Hence, import in Russia dropped significantly, which resulted in much less customs tax collected in the common account.
                    That's the main cause. This resulted a shrink in Armenia's budget for the first time since independence.
                    To cover the deficit, Armenia borrowed money.
                    I expect this number to be lower for 2016 (unless something changed), because the Ruble further depreciated already, and Russia imposed additional sanctions on goods imported from Turkey.

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                    • Re: Eurasian Customs Union

                      Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
                      ^ Does anyone know if the law that has 0% tax on cars over 100k is still in effect in Armenia?
                      What car are you planning to import?

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