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    Historic Battles: Battle of Ani








    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ani
    The Battle of Ani was fought between the forces of Vahram Pahlavouni and the Byzantine Empire in 1042. The Byzantine Empire was soundly defeated, with up to 20,000 dead.





    Date: 1042
    Location: Ani
    Result: Armenian victory


    Belligerents:
    Byzantine Empire
    Kingdom of Armenia


    Commanders and leaders:

    Kingdom of Armenia
    Vahram Pahlavouni

    Byzantine Empire
    Unknown


    Strength:
    Kingdom of Armenia
    50,000

    Byzantine Empire
    Unknown


    Casualties and losses:
    Kingdom of Armenia
    Unknown

    Byzantine Empire
    20,000







    Vahram selected a body of 30,000 infantry and 20,000 cavalry, forming three divisions, which fought against the Byzantines. A battle ensued in which the invaders were routed with great slaughter. The fight was so ferocious that the effusion of blood flowing into the Akhurian River is said to have coloured its waters completely red.

    The Byzantines left 20,000 dead behind. This victory allowed Vahram Pahlavuni along with Catholicos Petros Getadarts to crown Gagik II king of Armenia and subsequently take the fortress of Ani, which had been in the hands of Vest Sarkis.



    Vahram Pahlavouni of Armenia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vahram_Pahlavouni


    Vahram Pahlavouni (967–1045) was an Armenian army commander, (sparapet) and Prince of Bjni and Nik in Bagratuni Armenia. He was the head of the noble family of Pahlavouni, who held the hereditary title of sparapet in the Bagratuni kingdom of Ani.

    In 1041 Vahram Pahlavouni prepared the coronation of the successor to Smbat III, the king’s nephew Gagik II who at that time was only fourteen years old.

    The Byzantine emperor, was aiming to take control of Ani and its surroundings and annex them to the Empire. To that end, he began supporting the rebel Vest Sarkis, an Armenian pro-Byzantine prince and adviser of king Smbat III, who took over the city of Ani with the intention of handing it over. The princes and nobles that remained loyal to the Bagratuni dynasty, rallied around Vahram Pahlavouni and resisted three assaults of the Byzantine Army over the Kingdom of Ani, compelling the imperial forces to retreat. The Byzantines then sent a very large army through the southern part of Bagratuni Armenia and at the same time convinced the king of Caucasian Albania to attack Armenia from the east.

    During a fierce battle that was fought in 1042 under the walls of the capital city of Ani, general Vahram Pahlavuni heavily defeated the Byzantine army, killing at least 20,000 men. This victory allowed Vahram Pahlavuni along with Catholicos Petros Guedadarts to crown Gagik II as king of Armenia and subsequently take the fortress of Ani, which was in the hands of Vest Sarkis. The latter ran to the fortress of St. Mary and was eventually captured. After these victories, Vahram and the new Armenian king defeated an army of the Seljuk Turks and the security of the kingdom was temporarily restored. Nevertheless, Byzantine diplomacy, the treachery of Catholicos Petros and the young king's political mistakes led to the occupation of Ani by Byzantine troops in 1045. After this tragic event, Armenian statehood in Greater Armenia continued for a few more decades through the Armenian Kingdoms of Kars, Siunik and Lori, the former vassals of the Kingdom of Ani.

    Vahram's military talent and heroic contributions were sung in Armenian literature and popular songs. Vahram built the Marmashen fortress and Marmashen monastery where he was probably buried as well.








    Up-Coming: Second Battle of Sarvandik'ar (1276)
    Last edited by Armynia; 08-04-2015, 12:07 PM.

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      Historic Battles: Second Battle of Sarvandik'ar (1276)
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second...Sarvandik%27ar










      -Despite Armenia's strong resistance at battle of Ani on year 1042, three years later on 1045 Armenia falls to Byzantine Empire and than other empires.


      -The continuation of Armenian state became Kingdom of Cilician Armenia, (1199-1375)













      Date: 1276
      Location: near Sarvandik'ar fortress
      Result: Armenian victory


      Belligerents:
      Kingdom of Cilician Armenia
      Vs
      Mamluks of Egypt



      Commanders and leaders:
      Sempad the Constable (Սմբատ Սպարապետ)
      † King Leo II (Լեւոն Բ)
      Vs
      unknown Mamluk general



      Strength:

      Kingdom of Cilician Armenia.
      Several hundred Armenian knights and their retinues

      Mamluks of Egypt.
      Unknown but superior to Armenian forces, including 1000 Mamluk horsemen




      Casualties and losses:
      Kingdom of Cilician Armenia.
      unknown, including 300 Armenian knights

      Mamluks of Egypt.
      unknown but reportedly heavy





      In 1276 Sempad the Constable (Սմբատ Սպարապետ) marched with several hundred knights and a force of Armenian infantrymen to meet a column of about 1000 Mamluk cavalrymen and a "great strength" of Turkmen auxiliaries approaching from the side of Marash. He ambushed them in the Northern Amanus mountains, in a pass near the fortress of Sarvandik'ar while King Leo II of Armenia undertook a detour to strike the enemy in the rear and block its retreat. The Christian ambush was reportedly so successful and the Mamluk losses so heavy that "the bodies of the dead impeded the flight of the survivors". While more detailed accounts of the battle are lacking due to the paucity of sources, the Cilician Armenians emerged as clear victors and followed the enemy in pursuit to the proximity of Marash, before stopping.

      The victory, however, cost the Armenians very dearly. They lost 300 knights and an unknown but important number of infantrymen. Their seasoned warrior, chronicler and Supreme Court judge, Sempad the Constable, died accidentally during the pursuit of the Muslim force, after being hurled against a tree by his own horse. The chronicle also mentions the Lord of Kharbizag Castle and thirteen other high born men, among the Armenian losses.








      Up-Coming: Lest Armenian King, Leo V of Armenia

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        ARMENIAN CREW TAKES 3RD PLACE IN TANK BIATHLON

        12:18, 5 August, 2015

        YEREVAN, AUGUST 5, ARMENPRESS. The tank crew of Armenia took the
        third place in the individual competition "Tank Biathlon", taking
        place in Russia. The first place was occupied by the Kazakhstan crew
        and the second place went to the Russian team. Armenpress reports,
        citing RIA Novosti that the main referee of the International Army
        Games, Major General Dmitry Gorbatenko told the journalists about it,
        commenting on the results of the drills.

        "These are only the preliminary results of the competition. Everything
        may change. Both leaders and outsiders may change. The first place
        in the individual competition "Tank Biathlon" was occupied by the
        Kazakhstan crew and the second place went to the Russian team. The
        tank crew of Armenia took the third place. The fight between the
        crews is much tensed. Everybody make the necessary efforts to become
        the best in these International Army Games", - he said.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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          Lest Armenian King, Leo V of Armenia
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_V,_King_of_Armenia







          After several battles against superior Mamluk forces, King Leo V locked himself in the Kapan fortress and eventually surrendered in 1375, thus putting an end to the last Armenian state until the establishment of the short lived Democratic Republic of Armenia (1918–1920) and the Republic of Armenia in 1991.















          Reign: 1374–1375
          Coronation: 14 September 1374
          Predecessor: Constantine IV

          Spouse: Margaret of Soissons
          House: House of Lusignan
          Father: Jean de Lusignan, Constable of Armenia
          Mother: Soldane (of Georgia?)
          Born: c. 1342 Cyprus
          Died: 29 November 1393 Hôtel des Tournelles, Paris
          Burial: Saint Denis Basilica
          Religion: Armenian Apostolic Church



          After the battles:

          The Mameluks took Leo to Cairo with his family, where he was placed under surveillance for several years. In August 1377, he met with Jean Dardel, a Franciscan who was on his way for a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. Leon befriended him and employed him as his secretary. Dardel returned to Europe to plead the case of Leon V, and managed to convince King John I of Castile to pay a ransom of precious stones, silks, and birds of prey in 1382. His wife had died in Cairo, between 1379 and July 4, 1381.



          Life in Europe:

          Leon de Lusignan arrived ill and poor to Medina del Campo. In 1382 or 1383, the King of Castile named Leon Lord of Madrid. John I granted him for life the town of Madrid, Andújar, Guadalajara and Villareal (today Ciudad Real) and a yearly gift of 150,000 maravedis. Leon rebuilt the towers of the Royal Alcázar.

          According to Father Mariana, Leon left Castile for France after the death of his protector in 1390. Federico Bravo, however, states that he left after two years of ruling, and five years later, the Madrilenians were conceded the revocation of the lordship by John. Leon V apparently went to Paris in June 1384, and received the Saint-Ouen castle and a sizable pension from King Charles VI of France. He attempted to reconcile the French and the English (as the time fighting the Hundred Years' War) in order to set up a new Crusade and obtain help to recover his lands, but the meeting he organized in 1386 between Boulogne and Calais were unsuccessful. Leon continued diplomatic mission to England in 1389 and in 1392.






          Short Review:

          After several battles against superior Mamluk forces, King Leo V surrendered in 1375, thus putting an end to the last Armenian state. The Mameluks took Leo to Cairo with his family, where he was placed under surveillance for several years until in August 1377, he met Jean Dardel, a Franciscan who was on his way for a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and employed him as his secretary.

          Than Dardel returned to Europe to plead the case of Leon V to free him from the Mamluks, and convinced King John I of Castile to pay a ransom of precious stones and silks in 1382. Leo V of Armenia arrived sick and poor to Medina del Campo. In 1382 or 1383, the King of Castile named Leon Lord of Madrid. John I granted him for life the town of Madrid, Andújar, Guadalajara and Villareal (today Ciudad Real) and a yearly gift of 150,000 maravedis. However, Leon V never recovered his throne, and died in Paris on November 29, 1393.

          king Leo's ancestors will continue to live in Spain until the establishment of the short lived Democratic Republic of Armenia (1918–1920) and the Republic of Armenia in 1991.
          Last edited by Armynia; 08-06-2015, 04:29 AM.

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            bad luck for us......we have lived in the crossroads of civilizations.
            B0zkurt Hunter

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              I'am wondering can Armenian government return Armenia's lest king, Leo V's grave from France to Armenia, Just like we returned Andranik Ozanian's body to Armenia in 2000.

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                Originally posted by Armynia View Post
                I'am wondering can Armenian government return Armenia's lest king, Leo V's grave from France to Armenia, Just like we returned Andranik Ozanian's body to Armenia in 2000.
                He was not Armenian to begin with.
                He was french......

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                  Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                  He was not Armenian to begin with.
                  He was french......
                  Leo V was lest Armenian King see more at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_V,_King_of_Armenia

                  I was wondering if Armenian government can return Armenia's lest king, Leo V's grave from France to Armenia, Just like we returned Andranik Ozanian's body to Armenia in 2000.


                  Short Review of lest Հայոց թագաւոր Լևոն 5th


                  After several battles against superior Mamluk forces, King Leo V surrendered in 1375, thus putting an end to the last Armenian state. The Mameluks took Leo to Cairo with his family, where he was placed under surveillance for several years until in August 1377, he met Jean Dardel, a Franciscan who was on his way for a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and employed him as his secretary.

                  Than Dardel returned to Europe to plead the case of Leon V to free him from the Mamluks, and convinced King John I of Castile to pay a ransom of precious stones and silks in 1382. Leo V of Armenia arrived sick and poor to Medina del Campo. In 1382 or 1383, the King of Castile named Leon Lord of Madrid. John I granted him for life the town of Madrid, Andújar, Guadalajara and Villareal (today Ciudad Real) and a yearly gift of 150,000 maravedis. However, Leon V never recovered his throne, and died in Paris on November 29, 1393.

                  king Leo's ancestors will continue to live in Spain until the establishment of the short lived Democratic Republic of Armenia (1918–1920) and the Republic of Armenia in 1991.

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                    Maybe in the future Armenia will return Armenia's lest king Leo V's ancestors back to Armenia for Armenian throne. Anyway it is possible to have New Armenian King from King Leo V's ancestors that are in Spain. It will be great symbolic meaning for Armenian Republic to have a New King.

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                      A symbolic King? I like it.....it will piss off the Turks and show history.
                      B0zkurt Hunter

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