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  • #51
    Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

    Notwithstanding origins, equating Yezdis to the Sunni Kurds is simply inaccurate. It would almost be like equating Kurds to Iranians. Everything else aside, if there is any nation that has been there for Armenia in her darkest hours of need, it has been not Russia, not the West, not France, but the Yezdi people. They fought selflessly shoulder to shoulder with Armenians during Sardarabat, and have a notable presence on the frontlines of Artsakh today as well. Their contributions and devotion to Armenia is solid going back into history.


    As regards settlement of Yezdis in Artsakh:

    ... the leadership of Nagorno-Karabakh expressed readiness earlier in August to grant asylum to the displaced Yazidis. A senior official in Stepanakert referred to Yazidis as “an integral part of the Armenian people.”

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    • #52
      Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

      Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
      Notwithstanding origins, equating Yezdis to the Sunni Kurds is simply inaccurate. It would almost be like equating Kurds to Iranians. Everything else aside, if there is any nation that has been there for Armenia in her darkest hours of need, it has been not Russia, not the West, not France, but the Yezdi people. They fought selflessly shoulder to shoulder with Armenians during Sardarabat, and have a notable presence on the frontlines of Artsakh today as well. Their contributions and devotion to Armenia is solid going back into history.


      As regards settlement of Yezdis in Artsakh:



      http://asbarez.com/126599/iraqi-yazi...le-in-armenia/
      I will take your words and Artsahk's readiness to accept them to heart .
      I relent and would accept them with the same open arms as you and Artsahk .
      Having come come a refugee families and finding shelter, this would personally sooth my spirit. However it's not about my spirit but their need. It does seem like the right thing to do.
      Thanks for clarifying, I needed it.

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      • #53
        Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

        Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
        Notwithstanding origins, equating Yezdis to the Sunni Kurds is simply inaccurate. It would almost be like equating Kurds to Iranians. Everything else aside, if there is any nation that has been there for Armenia in her darkest hours of need, it has been not Russia, not the West, not France, but the Yezdi people. They fought selflessly shoulder to shoulder with Armenians during Sardarabat, and have a notable presence on the frontlines of Artsakh today as well. Their contributions and devotion to Armenia is solid going back into history.


        As regards settlement of Yezdis in Artsakh:



        http://asbarez.com/126599/iraqi-yazi...le-in-armenia/
        Agree
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #54
          Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

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          Armenia's ability of providing refuge and a permanent home to Armenians (from war torn middle east) to their forefathers land has produced less than respectable results.

          I will not mention of the thousands upon thousands of Armenia-born who have left and leave Armenia for the well known reasons.

          For Armenia to stand up gallantly and offer home to other ethnic groups is farcical to say the least.

          Having got all that off my chest, I have to say I have the greatest respect for the Yezidis and the Assyrians from our common history.

          I am not saying we should not help them but I am describing ourselves like the man of a family who cannot look after his kids, goes to offer charity to the neighbours kids.

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          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • #55
            Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
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            Armenia's ability of providing refuge and a permanent home to Armenians (from war torn middle east) to their forefathers land has produced less than respectable results.

            I will not mention of the thousands upon thousands of Armenia-born who have left and leave Armenia for the well known reasons.

            For Armenia to stand up gallantly and offer home to other ethnic groups is farcical to say the least.

            Having got all that off my chest, I have to say I have the greatest respect for the Yezidis and the Assyrians from our common history.

            I am not saying we should not help them but I am describing ourselves like the man of a family who cannot look after his kids, goes to offer charity to the neighbours kids.

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            Well reasoned post, and I agree in principle . However, I disagree with your use of "farcical".
            If we are sincere in our offer, then it is not a farce. If we are going to be honest then we need to inform that we ourselves are hard pressed and all we have is the land and safety to offer, and not much else.
            Personally I'm concerned for them.
            It seems clear by Artsahk's post that the Yisidiz citizens of Hayastan are ready to step up to the plate.
            If our people can find it within ourselves to of them shelter with sincerity, I think it's the right thing to do, and actually incumbent upon us to do this.
            I commend Bako for his words and am honored by them.

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            • #56
              Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

              It is annoying when we mix compassion with reality. We live on a small territory (1/10 of the original ) with 40% poverty, yet it is considered the last frontier of civility. We did the same mistake many times in our history by feeling compassionate, thinking we can share our territories with the new settlers. At one time the azeris and the turks were a small tribe that we gradually let in also. The US created this imbalance in the region, it has all the territory and that capital to feel compassionate for what they caused.

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              • #57
                Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                We should if we could, but we can't so we shouldn't.

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                • #58
                  Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                  Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
                  We should if we could, but we can't so we shouldn't.
                  Disagree completely.
                  A sacrifice by definition is a dear thing to let go.
                  One of my greatest concerns for Yisidiz or Assyr in offering them shelter is the less than compassionate welcome from my own family.
                  I'm riding on the honorable words expressed by the Artsahk govt of Bako Sahakyan.
                  Tough enough for me.

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                  • #59
                    Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                    Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                    Disagree completely.
                    A sacrifice by definition is a dear thing to let go.
                    One of my greatest concerns for Yisidiz or Assyr in offering them shelter is the less than compassionate welcome from my own family.
                    I'm riding on the honorable words expressed by the Artsahk govt of Bako Sahakyan.
                    Tough enough for me.
                    Don't think my wording was clear, so I'll try again ...
                    One of my greatest concerns for Yisidiz or Assyr in offering them shelter is the "potential " of a less than compassionate welcome from "some " of my people.

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                    • #60
                      Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                      Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                      .... , I disagree with your use of "farcical".
                      When one cannot look after its own for both physical as well as financial reasons, to pretend and jump in as a benefactor is farcical.

                      Just for the record not long ago when the Yazidis were going through one of the worst catastrophic experiences at the hands of ISIS Armenia was able to offer the grand total of $100,000

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                      Last edited by londontsi; 02-01-2016, 01:44 AM.
                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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