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Eu/turkey: Europe Capitulates Without Conditions

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  • Eu/turkey: Europe Capitulates Without Conditions

    EU/TURKEY: EUROPE CAPITULATES WITHOUT CONDITIONS

    BRUSSELS, BELGIUM - The European Council, in a meeting earlier today in Brussels, voted to open discussions, without any preconditions, on Turkey�s future admission to the European Union. The process is set to begin on October 3, 2005.

    Debate preceding the European Council vote were heated, with Turkey's failure to recognize Cyprus the primary obstacle. The specific point of contention was the Turkish Prime Minister�s refusal to sign a draft Customs Agreement between Turkey and the ten new members of the European Union. Turkey�s signature would have implicitly recognized the Cypriot State. In the end, the European Council yielded to Turkish demands, agreeing to postpone this signature to next October.

    The Council decided to open talks with Turkey despite the fact that Turkey fell short of meeting the clearly identified expectations of the European Parliament, as adopted in a resolution this past Wednesday. Among these are calls for Turkey�s recognition of the Armenian Genocide, recognition of an independent Cyprus, progress on the Kurdish question, and human rights concerns. Significantly, European Council members did not even raise the Parliament's recommendations at their meeting.

    In a dramatic development that lowers the bar for Turkey's eventual acceptance into the Union, the Council abandoned its traditional consensus model, in which one nation could essentially veto Turkey's membership. In its place, they stipulated that fully one third of the EU members states would need to object before negotiations are halted.

    "These were not negotiations; this was a surrender. The idea of an integrated Europe has been seriously compromised,� declared Laurent Leylekian, Executive Director of the European Armenian Federation. "This unfortunate result is due to the weakness of the European Union's political structures and the failure of leadership on the part of European heads of state in standing up the Ankara's inflexibility and outright rejection of European values."

    "We are, of course, gratified that our efforts over the last several years have successfully placed the Armenian Genocide and Turkey's blockade of Armenia on the agenda of the highest levels of discussions concerning Turkey's possible acceptance into the European Union. However, in light of the failure of European leaders to stand up against Turkey's aggressive and denialist government, we call on citizens of the European Union to safeguard Europe's values through the exercise their democratic rights." added Leylekian.


    *le sigh*
    "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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    I don't know too much about European politics, but I don't see a problem there. The European leaders were saying the Copenhagen criteria for starting talks with Turkey had already been set, and throwing new things on like recognizing the genocide days before deciding whether or not to start talks would be unfair. That is not something they could possibly do in days and the EU would look like it was purposely trying to keep Turkey out (that is, even more blatantly than they already are looking). The bottom line is they had to start dealing with the Turkish nuisance, and it'll have to answer to these things once it starts. It just wasn't possible to bring those stuff up so quickly, but Europe doesn't want Turkey in and there's no way they would capitulate again so easily to let them in.
    I think that Europe acted so wimpy there to make it look like they weren't a "Christian club" to make up for being much tougher in the future negotiation process. After all, for example, Turkey HAS to recognize Cyprus in order for it to get in, if Turkey is let in to the EU without even recognizing one of its members, Cyprus, then screw Europe, they'd deserve Turkey.
    Last edited by IAmMadAtAC; 12-31-2004, 09:01 AM.

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