Turkey's EU Membership

[deniz]

Cumanicus, you're not a Turk if you say that you feel guilty of that situation. You're pretty much a traitor. You're probably a fool who thinks that "relocation" means "genocide". So don't try to pass for a Turk on this forum. I'm proud of my country, my nation and my history. Get the hell out and leave the country if you're not proud!

[karoaper]

Cumanicus, you're not a Turk if you say that you feel guilty of that situation. You're pretty much a traitor. You're probably a fool who thinks that "relocation" means "genocide". So don't try to pass for a Turk on this forum. I'm proud of my country, my nation and my history. Get the hell out and leave the country if you're not proud!

Yes Cumanicus, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

[TomServo]

Yes Cumanicus, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.

^Lmao.

[winoman]

cumanicus - obviously you are missing much. Even so - you are obviously well ahead of Deniz in almost every respect. My advice to you is to not believe everything you read or see on TV (in regards to what a "typical" American - if there is such a thing - might be like -or regarding what might comprise American culture (Again - if one can say there is one thing that is such). And er well i don't feel that I am at all "typical" in any event...and neither too are most...

[Sip]

I'm proud of my country, my nation and my history. Get the hell out and leave the country if you're not proud!

You sure you're not American?

[skhara]

Don't turn to a western nation, you belong to here and it is "cool" to be eastern.

Armenia is a "western" nation. She has been for a very long time. That is, at her "core" she is, aside from the fact that there have been easternized influences. And Armenians in Armenia have a much greater cultural bond to Western Europe, than (with the exception of Georgia) to everything around them. Of coarse there are ancient Indo-European bonds with Iranians as well.

[Thai-Samurai]

Insulting Turks is free?

hey you have your chance to point out us insulting you; don't whine.

[cumanicus]

Armenia is a "western" nation. She has been for a very long time. That is, at her "core" she is, aside from the fact that there have been easternized influences. And Armenians in Armenia have a much greater cultural bond to Western Europe, than (with the exception of Georgia) to everything around them. Of coarse there are ancient Indo-European bonds with Iranians as well.

If the eye on your avatar belongs to you, I must say that it seem the eye of an eastern man.
But I can understand your position. Being eastern at USA, Europe is not something popular and you are trying to show you as the part of "western society" to make you accept by them. Ok, no problem for me, it is your life. Just an advice, you seem miserable lile some Turks who try to show them as western.

[cumanicus]

cumanicus - obviously you are missing much. Even so - you are obviously well ahead of Deniz in almost every respect. My advice to you is to not believe everything you read or see on TV (in regards to what a "typical" American - if there is such a thing - might be like -or regarding what might comprise American culture (Again - if one can say there is one thing that is such). And er well i don't feel that I am at all "typical" in any event...and neither too are most...

Hmm, winoman as a measurement unit for improvement of Turks. But thanks anyway.
Deniz is a stereotype herself. Noone takes serious to people like them who have no idea about anything.
Don't take eveything as accepting genocide good, critisisng diaspora bad. You need self-critisism too.

[winoman]

That would be fine cumanicus if you really had anything to seriously add concerning a critique of the Armenain dispora - and you haven't shown you really understand us at all yet or understand why we would adopt Western ways (in Western nations) for instance. Aditionally we find it amusing when Turks come here to dispense critisism just in general and specifically concerning anything having to do with the Armenain Genocide. Sorry - but (essentially) ignorant people (and this is not a racial statement per se - but because you are a brainwashed Turkish citizen - and this is true) should not be comming onto forums and dispensing critiscim and making comments in the presence of people who know a whole h ell of a lot more about these issues - in nearly every respect - then you do. You should be perhaps asking questions and enlightening us concerning how things are in Turkey and what and why - form your insider perspective - Turks might be saying and feeling certain things - trends on the street sort of thing - and even perhaps express your views concerning your history - but don't for a second think that you are preaching to us from a perspective of unique/special knowledge that you have and we don't (concerning the Armenains Genocide and history of this period) - and don't think that your shallow and uniformed critiques of us will elicit any response from us other then to make jokes and not take you seriously (at best) or in some cases - as when you and/or other Turks start blaming Armenains for things that just aren't true...etc - don't think - that when this concerns such as inssue that is dear to us - that involves our families and loved ones - who were killed in the most brutal and barbaric ways - and for those who survived (and lived through the most terrible and horrific of circumstances) and found their way to places where they could re-establish and make a living and provide for us - their offspring - a future etc that we won't shove your insensitivity and ignorance right back in your face. Sorry this is just reality. I like Turks - I really do - I have a number of close Turkish friends and even more Turkish aquaintances and I have been to Turkey a number of times - probably been more place in Turkey then you have (even if just briefly) - but I have a good understanding of Turks and I am not a hater or such - so please absorb and attempt to understand my words to you - I have perhaps a sliver of hope that I am hanging onto that perhaps you are not entirely stupid and naive.