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The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

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  • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

    well, considering that Russia will almost definitely take over Georgia, I suppose there's no harm for the militia to do this and then get a clean slate from Russia afterwards, though perhaps Russia has other plans for the BTC.

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    • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

      If Javakh Armenians do get involved in the conflict, the azerbaboon will start a front in Artsakh. I have the impression the whole region is going to ignite.

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      • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

        Originally posted by Azad View Post
        If Javakh Armenians do get involved in the conflict, the azerbaboon will start a front in Artsakh. I have the impression the whole region is going to ignite.
        me too... It's Russia who's throwing the switches in response to the west, so we just have to watch and see how things develop day by day. All those war game exercises were made for this very event.

        What is Armenia doing in response to all these events?
        Last edited by jgk3; 08-10-2008, 08:20 AM.

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        • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

          Originally posted by Azad View Post
          If Javakh Armenians do get involved in the conflict, the azerbaboon will start a front in Artsakh. I have the impression the whole region is going to ignite.
          God forbid it - who knows if Armenia will be able to hold off the Azeris for a second time.

          The most reasonable solution (and most likely) is that the Russians will annex South Ossetia and dispose of the Saakash-villain government. I highly doubt that Georgia will let the Abkhaz gain independence, unless the Abkhaz launch some huge military initiative, more so than what they are doing now.

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          • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

            Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
            God forbid it - who knows if Armenia will be able to hold off the Azeris for a second time.

            The most reasonable solution (and most likely) is that the Russians will annex South Ossetia and dispose of the Saakash-villain government. I highly doubt that Georgia will let the Abkhaz gain independence, unless the Abkhaz launch some huge military initiative, more so than what they are doing now.
            actually, I am almost certain that the Abkhaz will emerge independent/annexed to Russia after this.

            And I too would feel very troubled if Armenia somehow was initiated into a war right now with Azerbaijan... I don't think Russia would handle that situation as well as with Georgia, though I might be surprised.

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            • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

              Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
              God forbid it - who knows if Armenia will be able to hold off the Azeris for a second time.

              The most reasonable solution (and most likely) is that the Russians will annex South Ossetia and dispose of the Saakash-villain government. I highly doubt that Georgia will let the Abkhaz gain independence, unless the Abkhaz launch some huge military initiative, more so than what they are doing now.
              Not only can Armenia hold off the Azeris, but a larger buffer zone would be created also.

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              • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                Agree. Up to Caspian cost .

                Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
                Not only can Armenia hold off the Azeris, but a larger buffer zone would be created also.

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                • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                  Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
                  Not only can Armenia hold off the Azeris, but a larger buffer zone would be created also.
                  So does this mean we get to enslave the Azeri populace? That'll be a real phucking boost to the economy!

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                  • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                    I thank you all for your blessing, prayers and to glimpse the kindness of such great proud people as the Armenian. My hope and prayers as well to the Armenians of Javakh who need it most of all and deserve nothing less than freedom.

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                    • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                      My thoughts are that Abkhazia and Ossetia will both soon be part of Russia in the sense that Russia will no longer shy away from claiming the regions; eventually both areas will receive official recognition as this reality sets in the international community. The Russians are going to beat the Georgians into submission and the Georgians will have no say.

                      At the same time, the Armenians in Javakh and Armenia itself must lay low and have a wait and see attitude towards Georgia. It depends on how organized the local Armenians are and how badly the Georgian military has been damaged. Javakh has an Armenian majority, has militias but is very poor and even though they have a border with Armenia, Armenia has been cautious and not giving them enough support, though economically Armenia might not be in a position to do anything at the moment.

                      They should also see what Azerbaijan does next related to recent events. Should Azerbaijan piss off Russia and support Georgia diplomatically and perhaps with volunteers, then Armenia can use this as leverage to request that the Russians recognize Artsakh as part of Armenia.
                      It is still unfortunately risky unless they have Russia's full support.

                      I have no doubt that the Armenian would be able to repel the Azeri force but am not sure about the success of a counter-attack where they would try to secure more territory.Yevlakh and Gendje would be a great prizes as they are the forward bases and supply centers for Azeri forces and would give the Armenians control of the pipeline and new railroad but at this stage, after years of defense building, mine laying, bobby traps, coordinated artillery grid, etc, the side that attacks the other stands to take very heavy casualties and will most likely lose.

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