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    About ASALA:

    Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) was a Marxist-Leninist guerilla organization, that operated from 1975 to 1986. The group also operated under other names such as The Orly Group and the 3 October Organization. The stated intention of ASALA was "to compel the Turkish Government to acknowledge publicly its alleged responsibility for the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians in 1915, pay reparations, and cede territory for an Armenian homeland".The territory to be ceded would be the area promised to the Armenians at the Treaty of Sèvres in 1920 (which never came into effect) by US President Woodrow Wilson, "Wilsonian Armenia".


    About ARF:

    The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (ARF), also known as the Dashnaktsutiun (or in Western Armenian, the Tashnagtsutiun), is a Armenian political party with a nationalistic, socialistic, and democratic ideology. It was established in Tbilisi in 1890 as a federation of revolutionary Armenian groups. It is a member of the governing coalition in Armenia, with members in both Parliament and Cabinet. The party is a full member of the Socialist International. A member of the party is known as a Dashnaktsakan (or in Western Armenian a Tashnagstagan).



    About PKK:


    The Kurdistan Workers Party (Kurdish: Partiya Karkerên Kurdistan or PKK, Turkish: Kürdistan İşçi Partisi, also called KADEK, Kongra-Gel, and KCK) is an armed militant group founded in the 1970s and led, until his capture in 1999, by Abdullah Öcalan.The PKK's ideology was founded on revolutionary Marxism-Leninism and Kurdish nationalism. The PKK's goal has been to create an independent socialist Kurdish state in a territory which it claims as Kurdistan, an area that comprises parts of south-eastern Turkey, north-eastern Iraq, north-eastern Syria and north-western Iran. It is an ethnic secessionist organization that uses force and the threat of force against both civilian and military targets for the purpose of achieving its political goal.

    (Reference: Wikipédia)

    About Treaty of Sevres:

    The Treaty of Sèvres was vigorously rejected by the Turkish national movement. Turkish revolutionaries under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Pasha split with the monarchy based in Istanbul (Constantinople).

    In agreeing to the 1920 Treaty of Sevres, the World War I Allies and Turkey recognized Armenian independence; as part of the treaty, Armenia received some disputed territory in what had been the Ottoman Empire. However, most of western Armenia remained in Turkish hands. Eastern Armenia, ravaged by warfare, migration, and disease, had an Armenian population of only 720,000 by 1920. Caught between the advancing Turks and the Red Army, which had already occupied neighboring Azerbaijan, in November 1920 the ARF government made a political agreement with the communists to enter a coalition government. The Treaty of Aleksandropol', signed by this government with Turkey, returned Armenia's northern Kars District to Russia? and repudiated the existence of Armenian populations in newly expanded Turkey.


    Neither of these proposals was endorsed in the final territorial dispensation put forward in the abortive 1920 Treaty of Sèvres, which outlined a truncated Kurdistan located almost entirely on what is now Turkish territory (leaving out the Kurds of Iran and Iraq, then under British control, and Syria, under French control). However, the treaty was never implemented. Following Turkey's win over Greece in the Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922), the proposed "Turkish Kurdistan" was fully rejected by Turkey under the terms of the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne. The current Iraq-Turkey border was agreed in July 1926.
    Last edited by Marie; 09-07-2007, 01:24 PM.

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    Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

    I believe that the Kurdish-Armenian organisations could unite without problems.
    A huge majority of the Kurdish associations and organisations already recognises the Kurdish involvment in the Armenian genocide.
    That is quite a ice-breaker.

    But I do not think that the Kurdish parties could co-operate with the Armenian political parties at the moment, the Kurds is having a hard time with Turkey and the Turkish invasion of iraqi Kurdistan. The Kurds would commit political suicide if they co-operated with the Armenian parties. Hopefully in a near future but today?.. I believe that this is impossible.

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    • #3
      Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

      Hehehe, after that you will fight kurds!!

      Because they wanna West Armenia as a Kurdistan. . . Their ideology is not suitable for you

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        Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

        Originally posted by Kanki View Post
        Hehehe, after that you will fight kurds!!

        Because they wanna West Armenia as a Kurdistan. . . Their ideology is not suitable for you

        I agree with you.
        Also dont forget 'Hamidiye Alayları',too.

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          Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

          Originally posted by Kanki View Post
          Hehehe, after that you will fight kurds!!

          Because they wanna West Armenia as a Kurdistan. . . Their ideology is not suitable for you
          Treaty of Sevres doesnt include Western Armenia as Kurdistan.

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          • #6
            Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

            Sevres is invalid

            Because of Turkish independent war

            and you can't provide kurds to accept
            Last edited by Kanki; 07-15-2008, 10:31 AM.

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              Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

              Originally posted by Kanki View Post
              Sevres is invalid

              Because of Turkish independent war

              and you can't provide kurds to accept
              Doesnt matter since all turds are going to mongolia where they belong.

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              • #8
                Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

                This is USA's map




                This is right map.



                Your land always small. or no.I think todays land is very good for you.Of course there is a duty of Turkey.
                Last edited by Fuzzy; 07-15-2008, 10:36 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

                  Originally posted by robertik1 View Post
                  Doesnt matter since all TurKs are going to mongolia where they belong.


                  Very childish...

                  It is a reality of 1000 years

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                  • #10
                    Re: do Armenians & Kurds political party can unite them together?

                    You wish turd.

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