Armenia and Israel throw down a gage to Iran and Turkey

[AlphaPapa]

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I remember when Turkey told the US it couldn't use its airbase as a springboard into Iraq. The US did anyways, and later, they invaded Iraq also.

Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Turkey and Israel are the two sharpest nations when it comes to 'politics' (aka the art of bullsh.t). Armenians are among the worst.

[Armanen]

Re: Armenia and Israel throw down a gage to Iran and Turkey

I remember when Turkey told the US it couldn't use its airbase as a springboard into Iraq. The US did anyways, and later, they invaded Iraq also.

Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Turkey and Israel are the two sharpest nations when it comes to 'politics' (aka the art of bullsh.t). Armenians are among the worst.

I agree that turks and israelis are good, but I also think Armenians are too. What Serj and Robert were able to do with the little they had to work with is impressive. Do not underestimate the Armenian mind.

[Haykakan]

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What Serj and Robert were able to do with the little they had to work with is impressive. Do not underestimate the Armenian mind.[/QUOTE]

I been saying that forever but you still have the mentaly challanged calling them traitors at every turn. Its like a zomby effect.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenia and Israel throw down a gage to Iran and Turkey

I remember when Turkey told the US it couldn't use its airbase as a springboard into Iraq. The US did anyways, and later, they invaded Iraq also.

Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Turkey and Israel are the two sharpest nations when it comes to 'politics' (aka the art of bullsh.t). Armenians are among the worst.

Turkey made a deal on Kurdish oil in north Iraq... the US still had a hard time in Iraq because they weren't allowed stomp into Iraq through Turkey. Their execution would have been much easier and the supply lines more convenient.

[Army]

Re: Armenia and Israel throw down a gage to Iran and Turkey

I remember when Turkey told the US it couldn't use its airbase as a springboard into Iraq. The US did anyways, and later, they invaded Iraq also.

Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Turkey and Israel are the two sharpest nations when it comes to 'politics' (aka the art of bullsh.t). Armenians are among the worst.

I was very surprised to see that Turks in general think their government sux in diplomatics.

[AlphaPapa]

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Can we even come to accept the truth about our 'independent' republic of 1918? Can we accept that we don't have anything close to democracy or independence in Armenia today?

I know some are itching to call critics 'a traitor' but my heart, mind, and soul is for the Armenian individual and Armenians everywhere...but not any government that crawled out of Soviet slavery and since Soviet days has sold all national assets to Russian oligarchs.

[Armanen]

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Do you have democracy where you live, Alphapapa?

[AlphaPapa]

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Where I live, our ruling elite live within the borders, and allow a healthy amount of criticism and free press...so yes.

[KanadaHye]

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Israel summons Turkish ambassador over TV show


JERUSALEM (CNN) — Israeli officials are seeking a meeting with Turkey’s ambassador to protest a show on Turkish television that reportedly depicts Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian children.

Turkey has been Israel’s strongest Muslim ally in the Middle East, and the move comes as relations the countries have soured in recent days over the latter’s decision to exclude Israel from scheduled military exercises.

The Turkish television show “constitutes the most serious level of incitement, and it is being done with state sponsorship,” Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said in a statement.

The show aired this week on Turkey’s state-run TRT-1 network. It shows an actor dressed as an Israeli soldier shooting what appears to be an unarmed Palestinian girl. In another sequence, an Israeli soldier opens fire on an infant being held by what appears to be a family member.

“Such a series which bears no connection whatsoever to reality, presenting IDF( Israeli Defense Forces) soldiers as murderers of innocent children, should not be broadcast even in hostile states — and certainly not in a state that maintains full diplomatic relations with Israel,” Lieberman said.

The show called “Ayrilik” is billed on the TRT Web site as the “first time a TV series shows the ongoing, bleeding wound of the world which is taking place on Palestinian lands. It shows the painful stories of the people who lived on invaded Palestinian lands in 1948, especially women and children.”

The countries have enjoyed close military and economic ties for more than a decade. But, relations have grown testy at times in recent years over Israel’s activities in the Palestinian territories and recently over Israel’s Gaza offensive in December and January.

On Tuesday, a senior U.S. military official told CNN that Turkey’s decision this week to postpone a NATO war exercise appears to have been a political decision intended to exclude the Israelis.

The official, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly, said U.S. officials were uncomfortable about excluding Israel and so welcomed postponing the maneuvers, in which U.S. military units were scheduled to participate. The exercises were to start Monday and run through October 23.

Turkish lawmaker Suat Kiniklioglu, deputy chairman of the external affairs committee for the ruling Justice and Development Party, said it isn’t “state policy for Turkish television to portray Israel badly.” And he said, the television network contracts with private producers.

“It’s probably some producer who is trying to tap into popular reaction against israel, trying to make money off it,” said Kiniklioglu, who has not seen the program.

Kiniklioglu said it “would not be wrong to say Turkish-Israeli relations have become much more fragile” after Gaza, he says, commenting on the exclusion of Israel from military exercises.

“This is basically all about Gaza … the humanitarian crisis is continuing and Prime Minister (Recep Tayyip) Erdogan is upset about it.”

Alon Liel — Israel’s top diplomat in Turkey during the 1980s — said he believes the relations between Turkey and Israel are in crisis.

“This unbelievable attack on the Israeli army is in the country that in the last 15 years was probably the closest to our army, so it’s a major surprise, a major change,” he said.

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/

[AlphaPapa]

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I believe Mustafa Kemal was a zionist and helped build Israel. As long as the military still has the final control of the nation, I believe that Israel through back doors has the ultimate control over turkiye.