Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

[Siamanto]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Even if us "skinheads" who dont even know the language try to immerse ourself in the culture, thats commendable. What has that xxxxx done?

For the record, I did not necessarily refer to you, when I used the expression "skinhead;" however, if you identify yourself with skinheads, that it your choice.

In any case: What the skinheads who use the disguise of "nationalism???" have done? In the long run, she may or may not, prove to be far more "useful" to the Armenian Nation, than the skinheads of this forum - who probably may prove to be more harmful than useful?????

Also, it's not necessarily about Kim Kardashian; it's about intolerance, narrow mindedness, ostracism, pseudo-morality, pseudo-science etc. etc.

[robertik1]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Ok,ok, we first have to go back to the basics. What is the definition of some being ------ian or -------can. In what condition can someone say "I'm ____________"? They can have 1% of that nationality, it's not the blood ( dna to be exact) that counts, but it is that person's feelings and relationship with his/her culture, race, whatever. Someone can be 100% ________ and know nothing about his or her culture, not speak the language, not even recognize him or her self with that nationality. On the other hand, you can have a person sharing a tiny fraction of that nationality, but be the most delved into that culture, know the language, share the feeling. The other guy might have the genes, but this one will have the mindset, the soul, and thinking of that culture and in the end it's that what counts people don't look at your genes to determine or recognize nationality, people look at your character. Talking about this women Kardashian, I don't care if she's 101% Armenian blood, she's 0% Armenian in her character and behaviour that's what we should judge.

In fact I'll also admit that yes maybe if she had made a contribution to this world or was respectful enough, maybe I would be less harsh on critiquing her lack of sense towards her culture. But, she's not, she a utter disappointment and I can't believe I'm wasting my time even mentioning her. All she does is go and sleep with men, shop with other b-itches like herself, and live a life of a spoiled brat. Why even argue about her she doesn't even deserve this argument.

Exactly.

[robertik1]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

For the record, I did not necessarily refer to you, when I used the expression "skinhead;" however, if you identify yourself with skinheads, that it your choice.

In any case: What the skinheads who use the disguise of "nationalism???" have done? In the long run, she may or may not, prove to be far more "useful" to the Armenian Nation, than the skinheads of this forum - who probably may prove to be more harmful than useful?????

Also, it's not necessarily about Kim Kardashian; it's about intolerance, narrow mindedness, ostracism, pseudo-morality, pseudo-science etc. etc.

Im NOT a skin head. Im a nationalist. I dont judge based on race.
How are the "skinheads" here being harmful? Could you elaborate it? And how could she be useful?

[Siamanto]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Ok,ok, we first have to go back to the basics. What is the definition of some being ------ian or -------can. In what condition can someone say "I'm ____________"? They can have 1% of that nationality, it's not the blood ( dna to be exact) that counts, but it is that person's feelings and relationship with his/her culture, race, whatever. Someone can be 100% ________ and know nothing about his or her culture, not speak the language, not even recognize him or her self with that nationality. On the other hand, you can have a person sharing a tiny fraction of that nationality, but be the most delved into that culture, know the language, share the feeling. The other guy might have the genes, but this one will have the mindset, the soul, and thinking of that culture and in the end it's that what counts people don't look at your genes to determine or recognize nationality, people look at your character.

That is not as simple as you seem to think, and is a separate discussion.
Once you clarify your cabalistic "arithmetics" and refine the procedure to assess who is Armenian and to what percentage; I will express my opinion.
I think that I have time, as it may never happen????

Talking about this women Kardashian, I don't care if she's 101% Armenian blood, she's 0% Armenian in her character and behaviour that's what we should judge.

As I said before, you may or may not consider her Armenian; but, she remains Armenian. I will not be childish enough to specify the "exact" percentage.

In fact I'll also admit that yes maybe if she had made a contribution to this world or was respectful enough, maybe I would be less harsh on critiquing her lack of sense towards her culture.

To repeat what I have told robertik1, time will tell what will be her contribution; however, it may not be as negative as the contribution of the skinheads/lunatics who pretend to be "nationalist???"

But, she's not, she a utter disappointment and I can't believe I'm wasting my time even mentioning her. All she does is go and sleep with men, shop with other b-itches like herself, and live a life of a spoiled brat. Why even argue about her she doesn't even deserve this argument.

It's not only about Kim Kardashion; it's about intolerance, ostracism, bigotry and narrow mindedness. Today, it's Kim Kardashian; but, similar "arguments" have been used to discriminate against other members of the forum.

P.S. Also, assuming that you're right about her, I'm sure that you're familiar with the concept of "anarag vorti???"

[Siamanto]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Im NOT a skin head. Im a nationalist. I dont judge based on race.

To repeat myself:

For the record, I did not necessarily refer to you, when I used the expression "skinhead;"

However, I will take the time - as I usually do - to make an opinion of yourself; I don't know enough to qualify you either as a skinhead, a nationalist or...

How are the "skinheads" here being harmful? Could you elaborate it? And how could she be useful?

I have already answered a similar question that someone asked freakyfreaky and me, last week;
I have raised a question, in this thread, as a reply to Azad;
If genuinely interested, please refer to those posts, I don't have that much free time to repeat the same - unless necessary. Thanks!

[robertik1]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Ok fine.

[Gevork]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Thanks! I have read many other pseudo-scientific fairy tales, based on partial, incomplete data, oversimplified models etc. etc I wonder how life and reality are perceived in your minds where all seems so "simple????"

instead of you making pseudo-intelectual remarks, please offer me an argument. Give me a counter argument.

It is a proven fact that many assyrians in the middle ages fleeing the spread of islam saught refuge in Armenia. Armenian princes gave the fleeing assyrians refuge. Well over the centuries these assyrians became armenianized. That is why today we find people like kim who have these features.

All you do in your remarks is make BS psuedo-intelectual comments like those spineless white liberals.

If you are going to make a comment make it something based on facts I offered you an argument now it is your turn

[Gevork]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

It Seems Like Other Than Your Psudo-intelectual Comments You Have Nothing Useful Or Factual To Say

[One-Way]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Close thread.

[jgk3]

Re: Fake Imposter of Kim Kardashian

Siamanto this is for you: Please go ahead take some time and look at these facts.

The most frequent haplotype in a sample of Armenians was seen against the background of HG1 Y chromosomes. It occurred in all Armenian groups, at frequencies ~5-14%. According to YHRD, the same haplotype defined over more loci (14 13 29 24 11 13 12 11,14) was also the most frequent one, occurring in 3% of Armenians (*). According to Whit Athey's haplogroup predictor, this is suggestive of haplogroup R1b. A search for the haplotype in YHRD produced the following result:


The geographical distribution of this haplotype is such that it is shared by Armenians and two other populations from the Caucasus. Moreover, it is lacking in most other populations from the Caucasus, as well as in the other populations from further east. On the other hand, it is more frequently found in Europe, where as we know, haplogroup R1b tends to have higher frequencies as well.
The Armenian modal haplotype is also the modal R1b3 haplotype observed by Cinnioglu in Anatolia. According to him, apparently it entered Anatolia from Europe in Paleolithic times, and diffused again from Anatolia in the Late Upper Paleolithic.


An alternative explanation may be that the particular haplotype may have been associated with the movement of the Phrygians into Asia Minor. The Phrygians were an Indo-European people of the Balkans who settled in Asia Minor, and the Armenians were reputed to be descended from them. It would be interesting to thoroughly study the populations of modern Thrace, Anatolia, and Armenia, and to investigate whether a subgroup of R1b3 chromosomes linked by the Armenian modal haplotype may represent the signature of a back-migration into Asia of Balkan Indo-European peoples.


so like i said in my previouse post, I bet my life she has more semetic blood in her than armenian.

Gevork, the way you use other people's research to prove your points make no sense. But besides that, the discussion you chose to copy/paste in the first place is relatively weak to others you could've found using google, the whole R1b card (actually, many would criticize this source and say that you're supposed to look for R1b1 in particular, known to be the general "European marker", and not just anything in the R1b series) used on Armenians to prove closer (or even exclusive) ties to Europeans over other Middle East groups is quite shortsighted and deliberately ignorant of how other haplogroups in Armenians actually do the opposite. To say "R1b, R1b is my hero because it ties me to white people!" is to not understand the nature of these haplogroups in mapping out an ethnic groups varied and mixed ancestry.